Falling out of love?

[Ausbt]

The big one for me is the type of person that flies Virgin and scattered around the cabin especially near me.

I really can't agree with this, and my flight spread has been 60% VA and 40% Q for the past 6 years. During peak hour on the East Coast, customers seem roughly equivalent. Q does tend to have a larger J cabin though, so I guess you could say you get "a few more of those types" on Q, but in Y it seems a pretty similar demographic. Actually from my observation point (which is generally 3A, by the way, thus ideal) VA's J cabin often has only 4 or so pax compared to a seemingly full J in Q. So in reality, you get bothered less by inane conversations in VA J. JonnyK - you really ought to try some VAJ - you might like it ! (I know I do).

Outside of peak, yeah well both airlines get more thong-wearers, what do you expect? It's actually the same on trains. On another note I'm always amused by people knocking public transport. I love public transport - I actually travel around the Syd metro as well and will gladly take a Strathfield-Liverpool train to see a client. Geeze, I have to say - I think JohnK would be horrified at what you see on that train from time-to-time. But I don't mind - head buried in the online news or the laptop, big deal.

 

[boomy]

You need to catch some of the same qantas flights as me. Plenty of families. Even in row 4 of 737s!!! shock horror

I must be very lucky then on QF flights and very unlucky on JQ flights.

Doesn't explain how that same person always gets row 4 on qantas plus a shadow. Perhaps he buys that on eBay as well.

First, if you didn't notice I was joking.
Second, you don't have to be P1 to get row 4 and I find it hard to believe that person always gets shadow because even P1s don't always get shadow.

 

[JohnK]

my train was full of business suits today.. is that the type you meant?

No. Yiu know the type I mean.

The ones who think there is no one else around and they can do anything they want. The ones who don't know how to behave in public. The ones who think everyone wants to listen to their conversation.

I struggle to relax. I find the VA cabin much louder than the Qantas cabin. My observations are going to be different to others. What's important to me will be different.

Take it anyone you want. I generalise a lot. These personal attacks on me are totally out of order. Especially the post about me thinking I am better than anyone else. I don't. But I am allowed to see things differently.

 

[BillytheFIsh]

On my next domestic flight with my three month old I'm going to book Qantas , allocate 1D, wear thongs, get on first and put my feet up on the bulkhead. I hope you're all on my flight - you'll be able to say hello!

I'm not so mean as to pinch the young fellow just to spite you, but if he screams on ascent, well, what can I do?

 

[Plutonus]

Well poor people either don’t have cars or actually don’t drive very far, so how else are they going to travel?

 

[TomVexille]

On my next domestic flight with my three month old I'm going to book Qantas , allocate 1D, wear thongs, get on first and put my feet up on the bulkhead. I hope you're all on my flight - you'll be able to say hello!

I'm not so mean as to pinch the young fellow just to spite you, but if he screams on ascent, well, what can I do?

Don't forget to recline

 

[Ausbt]

Well poor people either don’t have cars or actually don’t drive very far

Also they can't be bothered dealing with all the refugees clogging the M4 motorway either

 

[nlagalle]

No. Yiu know the type I mean.

The ones who think there is no one else around and they can do anything they want. The ones who don't know how to behave in public. The ones who think everyone wants to listen to their conversation.

I struggle to relax. I find the VA cabin much louder than the Qantas cabin. My observations are going to be different to others. What's important to me will be different.

Take it anyone you want. I generalise a lot. These personal attacks on me are totally out of order. Especially the post about me thinking I am better than anyone else. I don't. But I am allowed to see things differently.

johnk it's not a personal attack, but you did make a wild generalisation. I'm on the train daily and don't see much of what you described. usually the opposite. While VA is not my preferred choice, i don't notice the difference in pax between them or QF. however i do notice a difference in JQ pax (Can't comment on Tiger as I have never flown them)

 

[JohnK]

johnk it's not a personal attack, but you did make a wild generalisation. I'm on the train daily and don't see much of what you described. usually the opposite. While VA is not my preferred choice, i don't notice the difference in pax between them or QF. however i do notice a difference in JQ pax (Can't comment on Tiger as I have never flown them)

There is a difference between wild generalisations and personal attacks. I didn't take yours as a personal attack. There is another who has posted on this thread who thinks it is his destiny to follow me around the threads and correct me.

I travel on the Ipswich-Caboolture train line everyday. Sometimes late at night. Sometimes I am quite scared.

But I shouldn't dish out. Just ignore it and find another mode of transport?

 

[777]

I travel on the Ipswich-Caboolture train line everyday. Sometimes late at night. Sometimes I am quite scared.

So THIS is your comparison with passengers on a VA flight?

 

[Denali]

On my next domestic flight with my three month old I'm going to book Qantas , allocate 1D, wear thongs, get on first and put my feet up on the bulkhead. I hope you're all on my flight - you'll be able to say hello!
I'm not so mean as to pinch the young fellow just to spite you, but if he screams on ascent, well, what can I do?

You could fly around bubs meal and rest time, extra points if you change bubs nappy while in your seat.

Ive wondered how much I bring down the class of the SQ J cabin when I get there in my comfy travel clothes, I guess now I know. Sometimes I break out my crocs for my flights and I have jibbitz that light up. Wonder if I can get some that make sounds as well, phone ringing sounds would be extra fun.

Unless someone is completely socially inappropriate/wearing something inappropriate (ie coughs and butt hanging out), I don't think I really take too much notice on what people are wearing or doing but everyone has different levels of comfort. Crying babies don't bother me much, the person behind me that is constantly sniffing annoys the heck out of me to the point of wanting to stab them repeatedly with my inflight magazine. To be honest, Im not even completely anti feet on bulkhead, as long as they have socks on.

 

[AL1CE]

No. Yiu know the type I mean.

The ones who think there is no one else around and they can do anything they want. The ones who don't know how to behave in public. The ones who think everyone wants to listen to their conversation.

I struggle to relax. I find the VA cabin much louder than the Qantas cabin. My observations are going to be different to others. What's important to me will be different.

Take it anyone you want. I generalise a lot. These personal attacks on me are totally out of order. Especially the post about me thinking I am better than anyone else. I don't. But I am allowed to see things differently.

Maybe this will help you see things a differently about "Those kind of people" AKA The Great Unwashed.

Not everyone is travelling for business, and so it maybe exciting for them. You know, like when the little kid jumps in 1B next to you screaming WOW! I love that, and it is sad if you lose the little kid in you.

Yes, sometimes passengers can be very loud and annoying. I know I have been one of "those people" due to the sheer excitement of randomly being seated next to an old friend after 15 years and YUP, we were laughing and giggling and toasting to memory lane..... One of the best flights I've had and we made 2 friends who are still very good friends on that flight as our laughter was infectious.

And yes John I have pulled the arms up, laid back and taken the whole row, when no business seats or upgrades were available.

I have to state for the record, I have been seated next to the most obnoxious, sexist, racist, rude, messy slobs on QF 1A, 2A many times. Once, with one guy screaming "I hope QANTAS goes broke, you're all dying of old age" Which just goes to show, that money won't buy you manners or class.

 

[TomVexille]

There is a difference between wild generalisations and personal attacks. I didn't take yours as a personal attack. There is another who has posted on this thread who thinks it is his destiny to follow me around the threads and correct me.

I travel on the Ipswich-Caboolture train line everyday. Sometimes late at night. Sometimes I am quite scared.

But I shouldn't dish out. Just ignore it and find another mode of transport?

I suppose you're talking about me.

You must really flatter yourself if you think it's my mission in life to correct you.

I do think that you make some ridiculous generalizations about many people that make you sound like you think that other people are beneath you no matter how many time you deny it. That's how you come across. Or when you say that people are "pigs" or "creeps" or "animals". I think that's a little out of line. But no, it must be okay because you called 10 million people creeps so it's not "personal"

The fact that you ridicule people who take the train or fly VA amuses me to no end however. Especially since you're one of those people.

I will entirely agree that you should not be afraid when taking the train. But if you don't like the train for other reasons, then yes. Find another mode of transport.

And before you tell me that it's "too expensive", maybe you shouldn't post about how you have "amassed a small fortune"

 

[JohnK]

On my next domestic flight with my three month old I'm going to book Qantas , allocate 1D, wear thongs, get on first and put my feet up on the bulkhead. I hope you're all on my flight - you'll be able to say hello!

I'm not so mean as to pinch the young fellow just to spite you, but if he screams on ascent, well, what can I do?

At which point did I say I had anything against babies/young children on a flight?

Spoilt, uncontrollable brats is another story. Flame away.

 

[AL1CE]

I think everyone's made their point, and John K has taken note.

 

[BillytheFIsh]

At which point did I say I had anything against babies/young children on a flight?.

You didn't. My joke was a tongue in cheek response to an amalgam of posts. [The difficulties of the English language not having a third person plural I suppose - although my sister in law from Cairns still disagrees with that.]


I wasn't joking about the thongs though. Much to the dismay of many around here no doubt, when travelling for leisure and the weather is appropriate in BNE (almost always) and in my destination (wildly variable), I will wear thongs and shorts in J and in the J lounge. I wear a suit and other ridiculous attire which is entirely inappropriate for Brisbane's climate almost every day, so please forgive me this one comfort indulgence on my holidays if you do happen to come across me.

 

[boomy]

I think everyone's made their point, and John K has taken note.

+1
Let's leave the personal attacks to FT forums.

 

[blackcat20]

You didn't. My joke was a tongue in cheek response to an amalgam of posts. [The difficulties of the English language not having a third person plural I suppose - although my sister in law from Cairns still disagrees with that.]


I wasn't joking about the thongs though. Much to the dismay of many around here no doubt, when travelling for leisure and the weather is appropriate in BNE (almost always) and in my destination (wildly variable), I will wear thongs and shorts in J and in the J lounge. I wear a suit and other ridiculous attire which is entirely inappropriate for Brisbane's climate almost every day, so please forgive me this one comfort indulgence on my holidays if you do happen to come across me.

I've also worn shorts and thongs in the J lounge; when it's 40C and you're catching public transport its somewhat appropriate.

 

[serfty]

[Moderator Hat]

Enough Already!

Please stick to the topic in relation to "Falling out of Love [with VA]".

[/Moderator hat]

 

[blackcat20]

I'm trying to like VA, but it just lacks a little something that you get on QF. On my last VA flight I was served out of date food, and when I raised it with them, they took it away but didn't think to offer some thing else. QF on the other hand came past two or three times to check if there was anything else I'd like.