Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Re: Seat Load on QF51 Sin-Bri 21st Feb 2015

Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Availability Search
Departing SIN on 21/02/15 0:00 for BNE
Flying QF  




                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
QF 52         0      SIN                BNE                333       Unavailable     J9 C7 D5 I0 Y9 B8 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0 
                     21/02/15 20:50     22/02/15 6:50                97% / 7m


1 Connection
QF 82         0      SIN                SYD                333       Unavailable     J9 C9 D5 I1 Y6 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0 
                     21/02/15 19:55     22/02/15 6:50                87% / 13m
QF 512        0      SYD                BNE                73H       Unavailable     J2 C2 D1 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S2 N2 O7 G0 X9 
                     22/02/15 9:05      22/02/15 9:35                81% / 9m


1 Connection
QF 36         0      SIN                MEL                333       Unavailable     J9 C3 D0 I0 Y9 B6 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0 
                     21/02/15 20:35     22/02/15 7:10                81% / 12m
QF 610        0      MEL                BNE                73H       Unavailable     J6 C5 D4 I2 U4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G0 X9 
                     22/02/15 9:05      22/02/15 10:15               84% / 11m


1 Connection
QF 82         0      SIN                SYD                333       Unavailable     J9 C9 D5 I1 Y6 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0 
                     21/02/15 19:55     22/02/15 6:50                87% / 13m
QF 516        0      SYD                BNE                73H       Unavailable     J3 C3 D0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S1 O9 G0 X8 
                     22/02/15 10:05     22/02/15 10:35               78% / 10m


1 Connection
QF 36         0      SIN                MEL                333       Unavailable     J9 C3 D0 I0 Y9 B6 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0 
                     21/02/15 20:35     22/02/15 7:10                81% / 12m
QF 612        0      MEL                BNE                73H       Unavailable     J8 C7 D5 I4 U5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G0 X9 
                     22/02/15 10:05     22/02/15 11:15               92% / 7m

 

[Awesom Andy]

Would anyone know the seat loadings on QF52 out of Singapore to Brisbane tonight? 21st Feb?

Wife and I have cheap Red Deal seats with no upgrade options but I'll ask and hope for a points miracle.

Thanks

Wayne

Not sure how well you'll go hoping for a miracle, but it is J9 C7 D5 Y9 B8 so there are a few spare seats around.

 

[wbjsew]

Re: Seat Load on QF51 Sin-Bri 21st Feb 2015

Thanks Guys much appreciated.

Any tricks for being humble to the checkin agents asking for a points upgrade?

 

[wbjsew]

Thanks Andy,

I have plenty of points but the class of ticket I purchased does not allow upgrades. Wife and I have Silver Status if that might help.

 

[Awesom Andy]

To be honest, international upgrades from eligible booking classes would normally require the request made 24 hours prior to the flight, so the most likely answer would be a no.

 

[mikejr]

Upgrade PE to J on QF17 this Sunday?

Hi Guys,

Can anyone please tell me the chances of a points upgrade from PE to J this Sunday (1st March) for QF17?

I am WP and PE is looking pretty full, but I cannot see what J looks like - never been able to understand Expert Flyer! If any can show the load and explain a bit, it would be really appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Re: Upgrade PE to J on QF17 this Sunday?

Only 1J seat for sale. Are you in 34J seat at present?

Chances not flash if a CL or WP with a higher PCV have lodged UG requests.

Be prepared to fly in PE

 

[mikejr]

Re: Upgrade PE to J on QF17 this Sunday?

Thanks Spruce,

Yes not looking good at all - no in 35A best available when booked - just hoping that the 747 have the side lockers in PE like the 380's ?????

I have not been on a 747 in PE before (always 380 which is a great product) so fingers crossed.

 

[OATEK]

Re: Upgrade PE to J on QF17 this Sunday?

Thanks Spruce,

Yes not looking good at all - no in 35A best available when booked - just hoping that the 747 have the side lockers in PE like the 380's ?????

I have not been on a 747 in PE before (always 380 which is a great product) so fingers crossed.

No side lockers from memory, but I didn't find any comfort difference when i flew 747 up/380 back from HKG.

 

[CaptJCool]

Re: Upgrade PE to J on QF17 this Sunday?

The side lockers on the top deck of the A380 are remnants of the previous PE cabin that was located there, so I would think Oatek's memory is accurate. Haha they looked great with a couple of Hendricks Gin 1 litres in them when I was on one in March 14 ! Lol

 

[artemis]

Re: Upgrade PE to J on QF17 this Sunday?

Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask this question:

Looking at EF for QF22 on 12 March it shows J1 but then looking at the seat map it appears as if there are at least 6 J seats and a couple of blocked ones?

What does that mean?

 

[OATEK]

Re: Upgrade PE to J on QF17 this Sunday?

Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask this question:

Looking at EF for QF22 on 12 March it shows J1 but then looking at the seat map it appears as if there are at least 6 J seats and a couple of blocked ones?

What does that mean?

EF is US based, and so J1 means they are willing to sell 1 seat through US outlets. I have done some dummy bookings from OZ in the past when something like this shown, and QF have seemed quite happy to sell me a couple of seats. Also you cant always rely on number of seats blocked/selected in EF, but it is likely that there is more than 1 J seat available to the right customer. But in my experience upgrade prospects seem to be low when so few seats for sale, particularly if none in lower buckets like D.

 

[artemis]

Thanks Oatek

 

[Isochronous]

Can someone help look up QF30 on Friday 22 May. Am tempted to buy an Red E-Deal fare HKG-MEL return and spend the 40k points to upgrade to J on the overnight flight for around $6.2k HKD including taxes. PE/Y mixed fare is $10.5k.

MH have a J special for $9k before tax but unfortunately the times don't line up to allow a HKG departure after work on Friday night to connect to any Australia overnight flight. Have to wait for the next day in all cases, so QF direct makes the most sense.

 

[Ansett]

Can someone help look up QF30 on Friday 22 May. Am tempted to buy an Red E-Deal fare HKG-MEL return and spend the 40k points to upgrade to J on the overnight flight for around $6.2k HKD including taxes. PE/Y mixed fare is $10.5k.

MH have a J special for $9k before tax but unfortunately the times don't line up to allow a HKG departure after work on Friday night to connect to any Australia overnight flight. Have to wait for the next day in all cases, so QF direct makes the most sense.

You need to be careful as to what Booking class it falls into as most Red E Deals can not be upgraded and unfortunately you don't see the Fare Bucket till after you have booked.

For international flights: a) Economy includes classes G, K, L, M, S and V; and b) Flexible Economy includes classes B, H and Y.

Anything outside of them is not normally upgradeable

 

[Awesom Andy]

You need to be careful as to what Booking class it falls into as most Red E Deals can not be upgraded and unfortunately you don't see the Fare Bucket till after you have booked.

For international flights: a) Economy includes classes G, K, L, M, S and V; and b) Flexible Economy includes classes B, H and Y.

Anything outside of them is not normally upgradeable

The current $5250 (plus tax) HKG-MEL Red E Deals are booking into class S. I just happened to be checking on these the other day.

 

[defurax]

Can someone help look up QF30 on Friday 22 May. Am tempted to buy an Red E-Deal fare HKG-MEL return and spend the 40k points to upgrade to J on the overnight flight for around $6.2k HKD including taxes. PE/Y mixed fare is $10.5k.

J9 C7 D4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 E0
I have a really bad success rate for upgrade on red-eye x-HKG...hope it works out for you!

 

[Isochronous]

The current $5250 (plus tax) HKG-MEL Red E Deals are booking into class S. I just happened to be checking on these the other day.

Thanks Andy! I clicked Red e-Deal on the page when making a dummy booking and in the T&C it says it is treated as 'economy' for upgrade purposes.

J9 C7 D4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 E0
I have a really bad success rate for upgrade on red-eye x-HKG...hope it works out for you!

Loading doesn't look too heavy. Unfortunately I need to fly the Friday night to maximize my time in MEL, and I don't fancy my chances of a last minute award release by CX to spend some USDM.

 

[Awesom Andy]

Loading doesn't look too heavy. Unfortunately I need to fly the Friday night to maximize my time in MEL, and I don't fancy my chances of a last minute award release by CX to spend some USDM.

Given it's 2 weeks away, and the wide open QF flight in Y, it might be worth the gamble to wait for a few days before making a purchase. I know... dangerous territory here.

 

[defurax]

Given it's 2 weeks away...

It's more like 12 weeks away, so still a big gamble.