Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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>>>> ADDED BY ADMIN (6 Sept 2010) <<<<

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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>>>> END OF ADMIN UPDATE <<<<

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[pjm99au]

QF website

one way award booking SIN to SYD

2 x business

searched 23 July and comes up with the month view

clicking on 27th takes you to this

 

[LHT]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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>>>> ADDED BY ADMIN (6 Sept 2010) <<<<

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

http://www.australianfrequentflyer.c...elp-25680.html (Seating Availability/Allocation/Configuration Help Desk)​

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TIP: Note that it is possible to check loadings yourself (for free)!

There is a complimentary/free service/facility available.

A site has been around for a while has recently changed and fare bucket loadings may be now checked at no direct cost:

Flight Availability - BCD Travel

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting GDS Fare Bucket Availability (Expert Flyer / KVS) (Understanding Expert Flyer)​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for first, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for PE.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not every pre-selects seats.

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>>>> END OF ADMIN UPDATE <<<<

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

QF website

one way award booking SIN to SYD

2 x business

searched 23 July and comes up with the month view

clicking on 27th takes you to this

View attachment 205788

 

[LHT]

Hi, I would like help with learning my potential for an upgrade to First from a discount business fare from Syd to LAX 17th March QF11 for 2 PAX. We are both platinum and booked and requested an upgrade about 6 months ago? Thank you.

 

[pjm99au]

Hi, I would like help with learning my potential for an upgrade to First from a discount business fare from Syd to LAX 17th March QF11 for 2 PAX. We are both platinum and booked and requested an upgrade about 6 months ago? Thank you.

QF 11

SYD 10:10a → LAX 6:00a F9 A7 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 W9 R7 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E9

Looks good at this time but check back closer to the date

 

[LHT]

QF 11

SYD 10:10a → LAX 6:00a F9 A7 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 W9 R7 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E9

Looks good at this time but check back closer to the date

Thank you!

 

[cashman05]

Hi,
appreciate any assistance for loading for the following:
13/3/20 - VA 7 BNE/LAX
13/3/20 - VA 6496 LAX/JFK
22/3/20 - VA 6537 JFK/LAX
22/3/20 - VA 8 LAX/BNE

thank you

 

[serfty]

Hi,
appreciate any assistance for loading for the following:
13/3/20 - VA 7 BNE/LAX
13/3/20 - VA 6496 LAX/JFK
22/3/20 - VA 6537 JFK/LAX
22/3/20 - VA 8 LAX/BNE

thank you

A month is a lttle far out to get any substantive idea, however:

13/3/20 - VA 7 BNE/LAX J9 C9 D3 I1 W5 R0 O0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 L9 E9 N9 V9 Q9 T9 S9 M9
13/3/20 - VA 6496 (DL2164) LAX/JFK - J9 C9 D9 I0 Z0 W9 S0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K0 L0 U0 T0 X0 V0 E0
22/3/20 - VA 6537 (DL428) JFK/LAX - J9 C9 D9 I0 Z0 W9 S0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U0 T0 X0 V0 E0
22/3/20 - VA 8 LAX/BNE - J9 C8 D7 I5 W9 R8 O5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 L9 E9 N9 V9 Q9 T9 S9 M9

 

[JohnK]

Can someone please FD516 HKG-CNX on Thursday 20 Feb?

I've been checking this flight for over 1 month and when I tried on weekend to book the flight is no longer available.

Looks like flight no longer operates Thursdays. I've now booked HK Express but transit of close to 12 hours.

 

[serfty]

Can someone please FD516 HKG-CNX on Thursday 20 Feb?

E/F Returns
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Availability Search
Departing HKG on 20/02/20 12:00 AM for CNX. Direct/Non-Stop Only
                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
FD 516        0      HKG                CNX                320       Daily           S X 
                     20/02/20 10:30 AM  20/02/20 12:30 PM            88% / 10m

Can't find it on any other searches, including timetables and flight status.

 

[JohnK]

Thanks @serfty. That is a strange one.

 

[odysseus]

It's booked in the schedule, but their operating history shows the flight is cancelled almost every second day. It did operate last Thursday - but not Wednesday or Friday.

It's part of Air AsiaX who are known for sudden cancellations without warning so given it's not available on their own web site appears to be cancelled, but not entirely removed from some 3rd party records/services.

 

[MrPlang]

Got a general flight upgrade probability question.

I’m booking a trip to Mexico for Day Of The Dead. I have a choice to fly economy or premium economy either MEL>SYD>DFW>MXC or MEL>SFO>MXC

I prefer the SFO route for less connections, shorter flying time but as I’m looking to points upgrade to Business from Economy or PE, which do you reckon offers a better upgrade chance for the long leg (SYD>DFW or MEL>SFO)?

I am punting SYD>DFW would be the quieter route and is the plane with more capacity? Any thoughts?

 

[odysseus]

SYD-DFW has more capacity - but is also a busier and premium heavy route. I'd suggest MEL-SFO has the better chance in general as it's a quieter route.

 

[MrPlang]

SYD-DFW has more capacity - but is also a busier and premium heavy route. I'd suggest MEL-SFO has the better chance in general as it's a quieter route.

Thanks for the thought. Will keep that in mind when I select.

 

[Ron_01]

Hi All, quite new to looking into flight loading stuff/upgrades, just looking at checking QF63 SYD>JNB 25/02 and QF64 JNB>SYD 16/03 if anyone can help.
I put a bid now upgrade in as well for both legs from premium economy.
Thanks in advance

 

[kermatu]

Hi All, quite new to looking into flight loading stuff/upgrades, just looking at checking QF63 SYD>JNB 25/02 and QF64 JNB>SYD 16/03 if anyone can help.
I put a bid now upgrade in as well for both legs from premium economy.
Thanks in advance

Welcome.

QF63: J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 W1 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E9
Looks promising


QF64: J5 C0 D0 I0 U0 W3 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0
Pretty full for 3 weeks out.

 

[Ron_01]

Welcome.

QF63: J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 W1 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E9
Looks promising


QF64: J5 C0 D0 I0 U0 W3 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0
Pretty full for 3 weeks out.

thanks mate!!

 

[Ron_01]

thanks mate!!

that second flight makes me glad about the PE seats regardless of upgrade. how do the loadings work, is it all of the available seats? e.g. the numbers mean the number of seats or does 9 mean a lot of seats and 1 means hardly any?

Thanks again for helping out a newbie

 

[kermatu]

that second flight makes me glad about the PE seats regardless of upgrade. how do the loadings work, is it all of the available seats? e.g. the numbers mean the number of seats or does 9 mean a lot of seats and 1 means hardly any?

Thanks again for helping out a newbie

For Qantas, anything less than 9 means that's the actual number of seats available in that fare class. 9 means 9 or more.
Some of the early posts in this thread explain things better than I can.

 

[Ron_01]

For Qantas, anything less than 9 means that's the actual number of seats available in that fare class. 9 means 9 or more.
Some of the early posts in this thread explain things better than I can.

thanks mate , makes total sense its all pretty interesting now that I know more