Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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>>>> ADDED BY ADMIN (6 Sept 2010) <<<<

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[JohnK]

HI,
Is there any availability SIN-BNE on 19 Oct on SG? I can't find any seat. (Same with QF too)

I've been struggling with any availability SIN-BNE in October. I've been seeing November flights filling up quick.

Finally managed to book one-way CNX-SIN-BNE on 15 November for a reasonable price.

 

[OATEK]

HI,
Is there any availability SIN-BNE on 19 Oct on SG? I can't find any seat. (Same with QF too)

Lots of zeros.

 

[Lawrage]

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But that's what the EF output that I posted shows.

Thanks heaps John for that.

Yesterday the multi city tool was bugging out a bit and I was briefly able to see some flights
MCO - DBX - PER

exLXCXFF is correct, was just wondering if there were any business or gold showing in the qantas multi city search tool for those 2 weeks on that route.

Thanks again.

Post automatically merged: Oct 6, 2022

It's nothing to do with being QF Platinum. It's whether you have an ExpertFlyer subscription.

You are asking a fair bit. EF allows searches +/- 3 days.

Here's an example of what EF returns:

View attachment 300393

To fully answer your request would require quite a lot of work to post all options.

If I have an ExpertFlyer subscription am I able to use this search you are using, and also will this match what I am able to book using Qantas points?

 

[JohnM]

Thanks heaps John for that.

Yesterday the multi city tool was bugging out a bit and I was briefly able to see some flights
MCO - DBX - PER

exLXCXFF is correct, was just wondering if there were any business or gold showing in the qantas multi city search tool for those 2 weeks on that route.

Thanks again.

Post automatically merged: Oct 6, 2022

If I have an ExpertFlyer subscription am I able to use this search you are using, and also will this match what I am able to book using Qantas points?

What I showed was standard EF output for a Flight Availability search.

You can sign up for an EF Pro 5 day free trial and give it a go yourself. ExpertFlyer

AFAIK, EF accuracy for QF Award buckets is good (subject of course to things like married segments constraints if you start trying to book something complex.)

Tip: Under 'Advanced Options' (which may need dropping down) set the default point of sale to USA. If you set it to Australia there is a glitch where output fails to show U bucket - extremely inconvenient for QF searches.

 

[Lawrage]

What I showed was standard EF output for a Flight Availability search.

You can sign up for an EF Pro 5 day free trial and give it a go yourself. ExpertFlyer

AFAIK, EF accuracy for QF Award buckets is good (subject of course to things like married segments constraints if you start trying to book something complex.)

Tip: Under 'Advanced Options' (which may need dropping down) set the default point of sale to USA. If you set it to Australia there is a glitch where output fails to show U bucket - extremely inconvenient for QF searches.

Thanks again John, showing plenty of options using ExpertFlyer

Unfortunately flights are not actually showing up on the Qantas website search

 

[JohnM]

Thanks again John, showing plenty of options using ExpertFlyer

Unfortunately flights are not actually showing up on the Qantas website search

View attachment 300439

Explaining that discrepancy is above my pay grade.

 

[Lawrage]

Explaining that discrepancy is above my pay grade.

Might just not be showing up yet for me, will keep checking. Thanks for the link to that search tool, will come in handy.

 

[JohnM]

Might just not be showing up yet for me, will keep checking. Thanks for the link to that search tool, will come in handy.

I'm WP and this is what I get (and same if I enter economy):

 

[Lawrage]

I'm WP and this is what I get (and same if I enter economy):

View attachment 300471

Might be an Emirates issue.
I can see flights on the Emirates site using Skyward miles but when trying to select the flight I get an error.

Might explain why when I do a multi city search on Qantas website I can see the flights but just cant select them yet.

 

[exLXCXFF]

Would anyone please be so nice and check the current loading of QF82 SIN to SYD, departing on 28 October 2022?

 

[pjm99au]

QF 82

SIN 9:00p → SYD 7:50a J1 C0 D0 I0 U0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

Chockers

 

[Daver6]

Could some kind person please give me the loadings for SIN - PER QF72 on Friday 14th October please?

 

[Captain Halliday]

Could some kind person please give me the loadings for SIN - PER QF72 on Friday 14th October please?

Ouch
QF 72 SIN 18:40 → PER 23:50
J0 C0 D0 I0 U0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

 

[Daver6]

Ouch
QF 72 SIN 18:40 → PER 23:50
J0 C0 D0 I0 U0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

Thanks for checking. I'm not overly surprised given my Y ticket was north of $1k. Some colleagues have not been able to get flights back into AU from SIN for multiple days on any airline around next weekend.

 

[Splines]

Can a kind someone please give me the loadings for:
NSW- SIN QF81 on Wed 21st December 2022
SIN- MEL QF36 on FRI 13th January 2023

Thanks in advance!

 

[pjm99au]

QF 81

SYD 12:30p → SIN 5:50p J9 C0 D0 I0 U0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

QF 36

SIN 7:40p → MEL 6:10a J9 C0 D0 I0 U0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

 

[BasedinBrisbane]

May I ask the current loading for QF25 SYD → HND on 13 Oct?

 

[JessicaTam]

May I ask the current loading for QF25 SYD → HND on 13 Oct?

Here ya go: J7 C0 D0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0

 

[BasedinBrisbane]

Here ya go: J7 C0 D0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0

Thank you! Holding my breath for Y to J upgrade (Gold here). Economy is pretty full.

 

[JessicaTam]

Thank you! Holding my breath for Y to J upgrade (Gold here). Economy is pretty full.

Good luck. Let us know how you get on.

Edit: post result here: QF Upgrades - Successes or Failures (post results)