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Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...
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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:
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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.



>>>> END OF ADMIN UPDATE <<<<
Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE
 
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Re: Qf 11

Isochronous said:
On QF128 again on Feb 26 and for the first time it looks wide open!
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Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code: 
Flight Availability Search
Departing HKG on 26/02/14 12:00 AM for SYD, Flying QF  

                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability    

QF 128        0      HKG                SYD                388       Unavailable     
                     26/02/14 7:45 PM   27/02/14 8:10 AM             76% / 21m 

Available Classes

F8 A6 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 G0 E0
 
Re: Qf 11

Do I content myself with a likely WP shadow in PE, or go for the 25k points J upgrade? Will they even process a points request when its so empty?
 
Re: Qf 11

Isochronous said:
Do I content myself with a likely WP shadow in PE, or go for the 25k points J upgrade? Will they even process a points request when its so empty?
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Sure they will - since they are less likely to garner some real $$$ (as indicated by J loadings) they'll happily wipe 25k QFF points of the books.
 
Re: Qf 11

Hi,
I'm flying the following in PE but have enough QFF points to upgrade one of them to J.
Sat Aug 30th: SYD-JNB QF63
Sat Oct 11: JNB-SYD QF64
I'm planning on applying to upgrade for the return because it's a night flight and I have to be ready to work at 8am the following morning (get into Syd at 15:05).

What do you think are my chances?

Thanks.
 
Re: Qf 11

PaulST said:
Hi,
I'm flying the following in PE but have enough QFF points to upgrade one of them to J.
Sat Aug 30th: SYD-JNB QF63
Sat Oct 11: JNB-SYD QF64
I'm planning on applying to upgrade for the return because it's a night flight and I have to be ready to work at 8am the following morning (get into Syd at 15:05).

What do you think are my chances?

Thanks.
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Looks wide open at present but those dates are a long way off.



QF 63 0 SYD JNB 744 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 T8 Z1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0
30/08/14 9:50 30/08/14 16:15



QF 64 0 JNB SYD 744 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 T8 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O8 G0 X9 E0
11/10/14 18:15 12/10/14 15:05
 
Re: Qf 11

Thanks for the replies JohnM and Must...Fly. Fair enough.

Why do you say "especially on QF63/64", Must...Fly? It's my first time flying those routes.
 
Re: Qf 11

Isochronous said:
Do I content myself with a likely WP shadow in PE, or go for the 25k points J upgrade? Will they even process a points request when its so empty?
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Would you be so content if someone was sitting in your shadow? Good luck with shadow in premium economy. Not that you would ever need it.
 
Re: Qf 11

I have to fly back to the UK for family reasons in early March - not quite an emergency (or I'd be on a plane already!), but I would feel a lot happier to be there. I've done some dummy bookings on SQ for Sunday 2nd March ADL - LHR, returning on Saturday 8th March, and also for late March as an alternative option. Based on the seat maps, some of the flights have only 1 or 2 unallocated seats (luckily, there tends to be at least one Preferred Seat left, which I'll snaffle if it's still available when I book in the next day or two).

However, for the SIN - LHR flight, it refuses to let me book a seat or even see the seat-map, saying that all pre-bookable seats have gone. Does anyone know what this means (is the flight over-sold, for example??) - should I risk being stuck in a middle seat?

I'm Velocity Platinum, so does anyone have any feedback on how SQ treat them? If the flights are basically full, do I stand a good chance of an upgrade? I assume that KrisFlyers get first dibs on any op-up's, but does VFF WP rate fairly highly behind them?

Thanks
Caversham04
 
Re: Qf 11

Hi all,

booked on qf127 Sydney - HKG on Sunday 23 Feb. have requested 2 x upgrade from PE to J... I'm qff gold if that makes a difference? Can anyone tell me the likelihood of an upgrade with points on this flight?


thanks so much
 
Re: Qf 11

Isabelt28 said:
Hi all,

booked on qf127 Sydney - HKG on Sunday 23 Feb. have requested 2 x upgrade from PE to J... I'm qff gold if that makes a difference? Can anyone tell me the likelihood of an upgrade with points on this flight?


thanks so much
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At J2 C2 D0 I0 U0, unfortunately, I think it is unlikely. Also note that there are some spare seats in PE and Y as well.
 
Re: Qf 11

Isabelt28 said:
Hi all,

booked on qf127 Sydney - HKG on Sunday 23 Feb. have requested 2 x upgrade from PE to J... I'm qff gold if that makes a difference? Can anyone tell me the likelihood of an upgrade with points on this flight?


thanks so much
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That flight is really full except in Y.
 
Re: Qf 11

ADLhighflyer said:
On QF128 HKG SYD on 28/2 and booked in PE. Anyone know the likelihood on an upgrade?
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That flight is likely overbooked in Y, W, and/or C Cabins:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.4/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
Code: 
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
FRI  28 Feb 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CX         139     HKG   08:50     SYD   21:00     333      J7 C6 D6 I5 W4 R4 E3 Y8 B5 H3 K2 M1 L7 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
BA/CX      4135    HKG   08:50     SYD   21:00     333      J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S0 O0
CX         111     HKG   19:00     SYD   07:15     333      J1 C0 D0 I0 W2 R1 E0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
BA/CX      4133    HKG   19:00     SYD   07:15     333      J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S0 O0
VS         200     HKG   19:10     SYD   07:20     346      J1 C1 D1 I1 Z0 W0 S0 H0 K0 Y0 B0 R0 L0 U0 M0 E0 Q0 X0 N0 O0
NZ/VS      4450    HKG   19:10     SYD   07:20     346      C4 D4 J4 Z4 A0 E0 O0 U0 Y0 B0 H0 M0 Q0 V0 W0 L0 T0 G0 K0 S0
[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]QF         128     HKG   19:45     SYD   08:10     388      F2 A2 P0 J5 C0 D0 I0 U0 W0 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0[/COLOR][/B]
CX         161     HKG   21:25     SYD   09:45     333      J1 C0 D0 I0 W2 R1 E0 Y4 B0 H0 K0 M0 L3 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
BA/CX      4137    HKG   21:25     SYD   09:45     333      J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S0 O0
CX         101     HKG   23:55     SYD   12:15     333      J4 C3 D2 I1 W3 R2 E1 Y9 B2 H0 K0 M0 L7 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
 
Re: Qf 11

ADLhighflyer said:
Hi all,

On QF128 HKG SYD on 28/2 and booked in PE. Anyone know the likelihood on an upgrade?

Thanks.
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Expert Flyer shows:

F2 A2 J7 C0 D0 I0 U0 W0 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 E0

The seat map for J has 14 blocked, but none vacant. So might be working down the list of upgrades now.
 
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