General Coronavirus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

[Pushka]

Well, sly grog it is then, and on the pavement. Adelaide used to be so civilised.

Currently our actions that got us to where we are now, are hampering where we need to go.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I haven’t really said a lot online about what life has been like at the frontline since Covid-19 became front and centre of my work.
Turns out I didn’t need to, this writer says it all.
Racing Against The Virus New York Times

I am hugely grateful for what the Australian people have been able to do so far.

 

[p--and--t]

I'm not hopeful about increased productivity. My pet peeve is a pre-meeting meeting. Had one of these recently, got called 'I notice we're meeting next week, can we have 30 minutes to talk about what we're going to cover'...

What about the post meeting meeting to discuss what should be put in the minutes and what action points should have been given out but weren't.

 

[DC3]

What about the post meeting meeting to discuss what should be put in the minutes and what action points should have been given out but weren't.

Doctoring of the minutes.

 

[tgh]

I am hugely grateful for what the Australian people have been able to do so far…...

… and we are all hugely grateful that so very few of us have needed your services.. but.. we are now in purgatory
The whole world is "unclean" and we are not.
How can we participate/share in such a world ?

 

[p--and--t]

Doctoring of the minutes.

hush hush. Judicious quality improvement. We know what they "meant to say".

 

[Princess Fiona]

I am hugely grateful for what the Australian people have been able to do so far…...

… and we are all hugely grateful that so very few of us have needed your services.. but.. we are now in purgatory
The whole world is "unclean" and we are not.
How can we participate/share in such a world ?

The whole world is not unclean. There are quite a few countries who are in a similar position to us.
I don’t pretend to have any knowledge as to how we navigate our way back into participation/ travel. I think without the measures that were taken we would have suffered unacceptable health outcomes and still be faced with huge consequences for travel worldwide.

 

[p--and--t]

I am hugely grateful for what the Australian people have been able to do so far…...

… and we are all hugely grateful that so very few of us have needed your services.. but.. we are now in purgatory
The whole world is "unclean" and we are not.
How can we participate/share in such a world ?

The corollary to that is for example if Trump or Bolsonaro was president of AU, what country would be comfortable having Aussies travelling there and who would want to fly here.

 

[DC3]

So, in SA you are not currently trusted with alcohol in a restaurant. .

We are talking about up to 10 seated diners in a restaurant/cafe aren’t we?

.... I will propose a toast to all of those in SA who are not able to do likewise.

Update: Chose a nice riesling from the Eden Valley for the toast, earlier tonight, while dining indoors at a local Brisbane restaurant.

10 diners, tables well spaced, an enjoyable evening after about 2 months of not eating out, with no anti-social (drunken) behaviour to be seen.

Edit: Fellow diners knew how to comply with distancing

 

[Princess Fiona]

For all the Health Care Workers
How to choose your Alcoholic Beverage
Mine is a Manhattan with three cherries

 

[flyingfan]

What about the post meeting meeting to discuss what should be put in the minutes and what action points should have been given out but weren't.

Story of my life. I'm sure there are a series of Dilbert cartoons that capture all this to a T.

 

[p--and--t]

Interesting reading some reports on pandemics. The "Spanish flu" is often quoted as the worse pandemic in living memory. While exact counts are not available due to poor record keeping, poor communications and "figure fudging" across the world, I have seen a figure quoted that approx 675,000 died in the USA over approx 18 months which is thought to be "a reasonable approximation".

That pandemic occurred at a time of poor hygiene, poor communications, poverty, lack of today's knowledge of the pathways of disease, lack of medical facilities, less education, etc.The pandemic lasted more than 18 months so although obviously deaths by month wasn't a straight line, a rough average of 37,000 died per month over the 18 months.

Since 16th March (two months), more than 88,000 have died in the USA. 44,000 per month and they are opening up the country again and many examples of no social distancing, militancy, etc.

In addition, over the term of the 18 months of the Spanish Flu, approx 3% of the US population in total contracted the disease.

Currently the "known" figure for the US infected after 2 months is 3.28% and climbing.

Edit: ( % of population)

In 1918 AU was very severely hit, way beyond what I imagined.

	1918​			2020​	(so far)
	Infected	Died		Infected	Died
AU	40%	3%		0.0275%	0.000392%
US	3%	0.64%		3.28%	0.268%

 

[Denali]

The UK sports commentator again

https://www.facebook.com/813218208713830/posts/3179642735404687

 

[SOPOOR]

based on todays announcement for VIC,
now im trying to find out exactly how long we have been in lockdown for and hte different stages,
but I can t for the life find it

anyone know where i can find a timeline ?

 

[Flashback]

Texas prepares for a pandemic first: a jury trial by Zoom

One-day trial will be streamed live on YouTube.

www.itnews.com.au

Quite interesting to think about more of the non travel related aspects, it seems the backlog of pending court cases will continue to grow and I can bet you the criminals won't stop racking them up to ebb the flow.

 

[Flashback]

Further to that, Singapore isn't messing around - let the decisions on hanging continue via Zoom!

Man sentenced to death in Singapore on Zoom call

Capital punishment verdict delivered remotely.

www.itnews.com.au

There seems to be a map / index for everything these days. Death by stats.

Mapping COVID-19's impact on job losses and disadvantage

Over 100 locations to experience unprecedented disadvantage.

www.itnews.com.au

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I haven’t really said a lot online about what life has been like at the frontline since Covid-19 became front and centre of my work.
Turns out I didn’t need to, this writer says it all.
Racing Against The Virus New York Times

I am hugely grateful for what the Australian people have been able to do so far.

Thanks for sharing, my daughter had had a similar experience in her ward, before being hit by a surge of a different kind though still caused by actions taken to manage Covid 19.

Initially the mad flurry and getting ready for a Covid 19 and the worry of of what may occur.

The reality of the first Covid 19 patients arriving in the ward for treatment and the special precautions that then had to be taken. Including cutting off all close contact with family and friends for fear of infecting them.

Then the combination Covid 19 cases plummeting in Australia with the large wave never arriving , and things become quieter.

Then the hospital restructured with a dedicated Covid 19 Ward, so that Covid 19 became rare in her ward. But with the restructure her ward took over the acute General Medicine patients many of whom require higher staff ratios but they do not have the extra staff, are high demand, have various psychological problems, are aggressive and even violent all with her ward not having the staff trained and experienced in the management and care of such patients. So she is now busier than she has ever been, more tired, stress levels are high, and physical assaults on staff are occurring.

She is looking forward to her ward eventually resuming normal workloads and cases.

 

[Princess Fiona]

So Sweden now has the highest per capita death rate in the world from COVID-19. In recent days it has overtaken Belgium, Italy and the UK.
FT Sweden

Bit early in the pandemic to know how this will all work out but I can’t see any country wanting to be at the top of this table at any stage of it.

 

[RooFlyer]

So Sweden now has the highest per capita death rate in the world from COVID-19. In recent days it has overtaken Belgium, Italy and the UK.
FT Sweden

Bit early in the pandemic to know how this will all work out but I can’t see any country wanting to be at the top of this table at any stage of it.

Similar story in the Oz, sourced from The Times:

Coronavirus: Sweden out in the cold with Europe’s highest death rate

Note they are only talking about the rate in the past few days, not the overall rate, where they lie about 6th in Europe. Its affecting a proposed Nordic 'bubble' for travel. Yeah, why should places like Denmark and Norway go through the pain of lock-down, only to have the Swedes stroll in 'sneezing' over everybody?

EDIT: Sorry, I see the FT is using coughulative figures. I was looking at this site, but looking closer, it hasn't updated recent fatalities.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 131,307,090 Cases and 2,857,945 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

 

[Princess Fiona]

Similar story in the Oz, sourced from The Times:

Coronavirus: Sweden out in the cold with Europe’s highest death rate

Note they are only talking about the rate in the past few days, not the overall rate, where they lie about 6th in Europe. Its affecting a proposed Nordic 'bubble' for travel. Yeah, why should places like Denmark and Norway go through the pain of lock-down, only to have the Swedes stroll in 'sneezing' over everybody?

EDIT: Sorry, I see the FT is using coughulative figures. I was looking at this site, but looking closer, it hasn't updated recent fatalities.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 131,307,090 Cases and 2,857,945 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

A bit OT but all of the links from The Australian are behind a pay wall.
They (and The Telegraph in the UK) are amongst the few newspapers not to offer free access to COVID-19 coverage.