General Coronavirus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

[Pushka]

OMG will people in public toilets stop flushing ??

Flushing the toilet may fling coronavirus aerosols everywhere

Here's one more behaviour to be hyper-aware of in order to prevent coronavirus transmission: what you do after you use the toilet.

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I don’t think closing the lid is the way to go either because then someone else has to open it up to use it.

 

[Pushka]

As an aside. Yesterday I heard that medical people in Beijing were saying the recent wave was caused by a strain of Covid from Europe. To which my nearest and dearest responded - isn’t that like throwing your coughe over the fence then complaining when someone throws it back over?

 

[Flying mermaid]

Victoria continues it be the one with problems! If you take out the hotel quarantine people then 6 new cases today, while everyone else had 0. Another staff member at a hotel (a different one) acquiring the virus. I suppose on the positive side they seem to be identifying them quickly.

 

[JohnM]

Victoria continues it be the one with problems! If you take out the hotel quarantine people then 6 new cases today, while everyone else had 0. Another staff member at a hotel (a different one) acquiring the virus. I suppose on the positive side they seem to be identifying them quickly.

Marko is indicating that the WA border will remain shut until there is no transmission/no cases in other states.

See you lot next decade - with luck...

 

[RooFlyer]

Marko is indicating that the WA border will remain shut until there is no transmission/no cases in other states.

So I assume he won't allow international visitors - business, tourists - until the virus is eliminated globally. Like, never.

 

[Pushka]

So I assume he won't allow international visitors - business, tourists - until the virus is eliminated globally. Like, never.

Nah. The Bali weekenders won't let him stop that.

 

[JohnM]

The pressure is mounting in WA, particularly if they keep the border closed and we have no cases, for pubs and nightclubs to open in the traditional way.

The pressure is also mounting to open the border. I can't see how they can resist much longer without some sort of civil disobedience.

Mind you, there does seem to be an abject fear by many people that we must eliminate, not mitigate. I went out for dinner last Fiday night with a friend and met some work colleagues of hers for the first time. They were strongly in favour of keeping the border closed. I was surprised by the level of fear.

They were also teachers, so their pay keeps flowing as normal...

Whoops, it was time to bite my lip...

 

[Pushka]

The pressure is mounting in WA, particularly if they keep the border closed and we have no cases, for pubs and nightclubs to open in the traditional way.

The pressure is also mounting to open the border. I can't see how they can resist much longer without some sort of civil disobedience.

Mind you, there does seem to be an abject fear by many people that we must eliminate, not mitigate. I went out for dinner last Fiday night with a friend and met some work colleagues of hers for the first time. They were strongly in favour of keeping the border closed. I was surprised by the level of fear.

They were also teachers, so their pay keeps flowing as normal...

Whoops, it was time to bite my lip...

The ones who want borders to stay shut have had no impact on their salaries nor work, and where opening won't make any difference to their lifestyle nor business. I have a couple of family members like that. It actually suits them to slam them shut because another family member will have to fly back to France where he works, when they open. However they also have a son and family up in the mining areas in WA so it's getting a bit less comfortable for them but they'd like Vic and NSW to stay shut forever because they never travel there.

 

[oz_mark]

So I assume he won't allow international visitors - business, tourists - until the virus is eliminated globally. Like, never.

Not his decision.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Victoria continues it be the one with problems! If you take out the hotel quarantine people then 6 new cases today, while everyone else had 0. Another staff member at a hotel (a different one) acquiring the virus. I suppose on the positive side they seem to be identifying them quickly.

Yes still trickling along at a low but annoying level. Though new clusters do seem to get shut down quickly. Family transmission seems to be the main cause, quite probably as people think hugging family members is safe, or more likely as they just do not think at all. The family transmission however means that a new case will often end up being most in the family unit, or multiple families when they mix.....which must be happening to keep the human chain of transmission to keep occurring each week to pass the Covid 19 baton.

The hotel quarantine (ie 15 today) is going to stay high for returning travellers as as Victoria is taking a disproportionately high number of returning travellers who do their quarantine here before flying to their home state. Even if the home state further quarantines them for 14 days it is pretty pointless as they will no longer be infectious even if they are still positive. It also means that Victoria is baring a higher risk in processing all of these returning travellers. So this may be one time that having a large 24 hour airport is not an advantage!

Part of the ""new normal"" is that some Australian workers will be exposed to, and hence will occasionally catch, Covid 19.
ie crew of international flights and ships (freight) , workers dealing with Border Control, Hotel Quarantine Workers, Health Workers ( hospitalisations shrinking but some of the returning travellers and others will still catch Covid 19 and will need treatment) etc

 

[Flying mermaid]

ACT is virus free again as the diplomat has recovered. However we brought in 300 from Nepal last week we are currently quarantining in hotels, so some more might pop up.

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

Marko is indicating that the WA border will remain shut until there is no transmission/no cases in other states.
See you lot next decade - with luck...

Well we can kiss our WA silo trip goodbye for August then and the Margaret River wineries and Perth ..............

 

[p--and--t]

Well we can kiss our WA silo trip goodbye for August then and the Margaret River wineries and Perth ..............

Marko is indicating that the WA border will remain shut until there is no transmission/no cases in other states.

See you lot next decade - with luck...

Is this a sneaky prelude to the, in the past, clamouring to secede from AU?

 

[JohnM]

Well we can kiss our WA silo trip goodbye for August then and the Margaret River wineries and Perth ..............

Don't lose hope just yet. As I said, the pressure is mounting - but time is also running out.

I'm booked on the Indian Pacific SYD-PER in late October, so I also have reason to hope some sense will prevail.

 

[drron]

No problems we will just go and spend our money in NSW.
And if you hadn't done your lobster cruise from Geraldton we might not have ever gone back.

 

[VPS]

The pressure is mounting in WA, particularly if they keep the border closed and we have no cases, for pubs and nightclubs to open in the traditional way.

The pressure is also mounting to open the border. I can't see how they can resist much longer without some sort of civil disobedience.

Mind you, there does seem to be an abject fear by many people that we must eliminate, not mitigate. I went out for dinner last Fiday night with a friend and met some work colleagues of hers for the first time. They were strongly in favour of keeping the border closed. I was surprised by the level of fear.

They were also teachers, so their pay keeps flowing as normal...

Whoops, it was time to bite my lip...

Has the wound on your lip healed yet. Marko better open those borders because I want to see the wildflowers

 

[Gremlin]

The ones who want borders to stay shut have had no impact on their salaries nor work, and where opening won't make any difference to their lifestyle nor business.

I certainly don't think it's as black and white as that.

My business is not viable whilst we maintain social distancing. I don't qualify for JobKeeper (don't ask!) so right now I'm burning money without an income. WA has moved to 1 person per 2 sqm - WA have said they can do this by keeping the borders closed to community transmission. NZ has no social distancing restrictions. If I was in Perth or Auckland, I'd have a viable business. As it stands, I don't.

Instead, all the advice that continues to come from both state and federal governments is that social distancing is here to stay and we'll need to maintain 1 person per 4 sqm, especially as we open the borders. That destroys my business. Completely.

There are clearly industries that are hurting because borders are closed. But there is a cost to opening if it also comes with other restrictions.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Victoria 18 cases today - 6 hotel related. One of the 12 “home” cases was another protester participant but he shouldn’t have been infectious at the march. They are testing the group of friends he attended with. He was infectious for 2 days while working in a shopping centre. It’s good that people are coming forward for testing. It’s hard not to see cases growing in Vic though as there seems a fair bit of community spread.

 

[Denali]

So yesterday I ventured into a shopping centre for the first time since March 17. Ive only been home, my Chiro office and my office 2 days per week.

Approached elevator and the woman waiting is coughing. Im standing a few mtrs away she says its "not Covid, I have smokers cough".. oh great, shes a "talker". We then get in the lift, I stand in my corner and she starts sneezing and doesnt cover her mouth.

Me: So is that smokers sneeze as well and youre suppose to sneeze into your elbow. She then told me "we're all going to get it anyway".

And this is why Im going back into my bunker. I didnt get the items I wanted to buy as I went back to my car and went home, going to phone them for an phone shop/delivery.

 

[Flying mermaid]

So yesterday I ventured into a shopping centre for the first time since March 17. Ive only been home, my Chiro office and my office 2 days per week.

Approached elevator and the woman waiting is coughing. Im standing a few mtrs away she says its "not Covid, I have smokers cough".. oh great, shes a "talker". We then get in the lift, I stand in my corner and she starts sneezing and doesnt cover her mouth.

Me: So is that smokers sneeze as well and youre suppose to sneeze into your elbow. She then told me "we're all going to get it anyway".

And this is why Im going back into my bunker. I didnt get the items I wanted to buy as I went back to my car and went home, going to phone them for an phone shop/delivery.

I was talking to my accountant yesterday and saying the USA seems to have so many idiots and I am sure Australians are more sensible. He said - no we have more than our share of idiots as well. Looks like he was right - what a selfish woman.