General Coronavirus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

[MEL_Traveller]

Australian COVID vaccine terminated due to HIV ‘false positives’

The University of Queensland-CSL coronavirus vaccine will be abandoned after participants returned false positive HIV tests.

www.smh.com.au

UQ Vaccine failed. So now how dare can this government mandate people to get vaccinated before flights and enter Australia or Qantas flights?

To redeem the failure of UQ vaccine, I demand the Australian government to immediately purchase Moderna and Jenseen vaccine so that we can open the borders as soon as possible and allow us to go back to where we come from!

I don’t think the UQ vaccine was going to be relevant for 2021 anyway... it was not expected until the end of next year, a full year after the alternatives.

Perhaps the UQ vaccine would have been suitable for subsequent years.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

You can still leave any time. Nothing is stopping you. But you seem to keep ignoring that fact.

Unfortunately there is no posting rules forbidding it.

I do wonder when the level will get to Renato-levels

PS their main complaint in reality is that their destination has quarantine requirements, something no Australian government can do anything about!!!

 

[kamchatsky]

Australian COVID vaccine terminated due to HIV ‘false positives’

The University of Queensland-CSL coronavirus vaccine will be abandoned after participants returned false positive HIV tests.

www.smh.com.au

UQ Vaccine failed. So now how dare can this government mandate people to get vaccinated before flights and enter Australia or Qantas flights?

To redeem the failure of UQ vaccine, I demand the Australian government to immediately purchase Moderna and Jenseen vaccine so that we can open the borders as soon as possible and allow us to go back to where we come from!

I don't get it. You should be able to get approvals as long as you are going for longer than 3 months. What is actually stopping you?

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I don't get it. You should be able to get approvals as long as you are going for longer than 3 months. What is actually stopping you?

They have said on another thread. Quarantine on arrival (at destination) and Quarantine in Australia (if/when they return).

Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

This articles talks in terms of those with a significant history: “... the MHRA have advised on a precautionary basis that people with a significant history of allergic reactions do not receive this vaccination ...”...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

See post #3677

 

[dajop]

I don't get it. You should be able to get approvals as long as you are going for longer than 3 months. What is actually stopping you?

From what I understand, as long as you indicate you are going for longer than 3 months.

 

[tgh]

Lots of helpful advice here...

 

[Pushka]

Australian COVID vaccine terminated due to HIV ‘false positives’

The University of Queensland-CSL coronavirus vaccine will be abandoned after participants returned false positive HIV tests.

www.smh.com.au

UQ Vaccine failed. So now how dare can this government mandate people to get vaccinated before flights and enter Australia or Qantas flights?

To redeem the failure of UQ vaccine, I demand the Australian government to immediately purchase Moderna and Jenseen vaccine so that we can open the borders as soon as possible and allow us to go back to where we come from!

. You can go back to where you came from. No one is stopping you.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Australian COVID vaccine terminated due to HIV ‘false positives’

The University of Queensland-CSL coronavirus vaccine will be abandoned after participants returned false positive HIV tests.

www.smh.com.au

UQ Vaccine failed. So now how dare can this government mandate people to get vaccinated before flights and enter Australia or Qantas flights?

To redeem the failure of UQ vaccine, I demand the Australian government to immediately purchase Moderna and Jenseen vaccine so that we can open the borders as soon as possible and allow us to go back to where we come from!

Well, you need to be specific here. Actually the vaccine didn't "fail" as a vaccine against Coronavirus. Using proteins from HIV virus as part of the building blocks was always flagged as a potential issue. It may well be an excellent vaccine but can give false positives for HIV which is problematic. The technology is still impressive and it was excellent that it received grants to process the development.

 

[Flashback]

Unfortunately there is no posting rules forbidding it.

I do wonder when the level will get to Renato-levels

PS their main complaint in reality is that their destination has quarantine requirements, something no Australian government can do anything about!!!

Indeed, but if Australia is such a terrible nasty place then having to quarantine for a short period on arrival hardly seems like a chore to escape the Nanny state!

 

[Pushka]

Well, you need to be specific here. Actually the vaccine didn't "fail" as a vaccine against Coronavirus. Using proteins from HIV virus as part of the building blocks was always flagged as a potential issue. It may well be an excellent vaccine but can give false positives for HIV which is problematic. The technology is still impressive and it was excellent that it received grants to process the development.

As I can't see I'm likely to get HIV, (blood products are screened these days, and well, um ) then I'd be happy to have the Qld one. Such a shame.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

New first case???

Bombshell virus find in 4yo Italian boy

Evidence of the coronavirus which causes COVID-19 disease was detected in a four-year-old Milan boy months before Italy recorded its first case, researchers say.

www.news.com.au

 

[lovetravellingoz]

New first case???

Bombshell virus find in 4yo Italian boy

Evidence of the coronavirus which causes COVID-19 disease was detected in a four-year-old Milan boy months before Italy recorded its first case, researchers say.

www.news.com.au

Apart from the boy's swab:

Additionally, a sewage study by the Italian National Institute of Health “unequivocally demonstrated” the presence of the virus in Milan wastewater as early as mid December 2019.

 

[drron]

Actually reports of positive antibodies in Italy go back to September 2019.
"Research in Italy on samples from 959 volunteers in an experimental lung cancer treatment undertaken from September 2019 have shown COVID-19 anti-bodies in 14% of the samples. National Cancer Institute in Milan director Giovanni Apolone suggests that the major outbreak in Italy could have been caused because COVID-19 was wide spread in Italy from Summer 2019.[347]"

COVID-19 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[tgh]

Leads to : will we ever find the source...

 

[oznflfan]

Actually reports of positive antibodies in Italy go back to September 2019.
"Research in Italy on samples from 959 volunteers in an experimental lung cancer treatment undertaken from September 2019 have shown COVID-19 anti-bodies in 14% of the samples. National Cancer Institute in Milan director Giovanni Apolone suggests that the major outbreak in Italy could have been caused because COVID-19 was wide spread in Italy from Summer 2019.[347]"

COVID-19 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Can we please get the fluorescent orange lunatic to stop referring to it as the china virus then?

 

[love_the_life]

ESwatini (formerly Swaziland) Prime Minister Ambrose Dlamini, who tested positive for COVID-19 four weeks ago, has died at age 52 after being hospitalised in neighbouring South Africa, the tiny absolute monarchy’s government said late on Sunday. I haven't checked to see what the cause of death was listed as though.

 

[tgh]

A truly brilliant (imo) "Dummies Guide" to Covid Vaccine… written by a US based IC Doctor

 

[Pushka]

I don’t want this to be at all political but is a genuine question. If someone of note, actually we can say Boris I just realised, has been diagnosed with Covid and recovered, and they were at the highest priority to get a vaccine, then would they need one? Or should they even get one?

Asking for a friend

 

[tgh]

I "understand"(sic) that having had Covid does not warrant immunity, so the priority line is the same for those who have and those who have not….

 

[dajop]

I don’t want this to be at all political but is a genuine question. If someone of note, actually we can say Boris I just realised, has been diagnosed with Covid and recovered, and they were at the highest priority to get a vaccine, then would they need one? Or should they even get one?

Asking for a friend

Very simple, it's about leadership, sending a signal that the vaccine is safe, the virus is indeed real and not some conspiracy theory and people should take the adequate precautions. Without that sort of leadership, it's easy to see, at least in some countries (perhaps not the UK), that 74 million people a big chunk of the population may not want to be vaccinated.