General COVID-19 Vaccine Discussion

[mrsterryn]

Many years ago (I promise there is a correlation) the government dept if worked for did one of those "impact and likelihood" type things regularly.
One year on a Thursday one of the catastrophic events happened. A major link had been severed and at the same time a fire had broken out at the back up exchange. All systems (payments ) d Absolutely dead in the water. Of course there were some in situ operating procedures but not enough. Fortunately going forward things are definitely more organised.
The Government (most of them in the world ) would have had this as a ...nope not going to happen.
I don't see how they could have done much differently. Of course hindsight is wonderful
I personally would strongly object returning to the restrictions that were placed upon us and we coped !.
All I could think of was those isolated people, vulnerable ones, ones with significant disabilities.
I am not a doctor or anyone medical at all. Give me social security law and I can help out. So ...I don't trust google or a person has read many articles and watched YouTube.

 

[k_sheep]

I got my Moderna bivalent 4th booster on monday - sore arm till friday.

Mr k_sheep was pretty ratty for about 36 hrs. Seems to effect those who suffer with migraines worse.

 

[JohnK]

Came back from Thailand yesterday morning. Logged in to network ok, logged in to test system ok but could not log in to production system.

Called service desk for assistance. Someone I know answered the call. They've been off work for 1 week with covid. Wife had it as well. He hasn't experienced anything like it.

Almost every person I speak to that has had covid tells exactly same story. Must be just a bad cold going around the past couple of years?

 

[Oneworldplus2]

He hasn't experienced anything like it.

Almost every person I speak to that has had covid tells exactly same story. Must be just a bad cold going around the past couple of years?

Sure

Everyone l know has had symptoms for a day or two, that's it.

Meanwhile -

Report says 100m screenings lost because of pandemic, which had ‘chilling effect’ on research

Experts have warned that Europe faces a “cancer epidemic” unless urgent action is taken to boost treatment and research, after an estimated 1m diagnoses were missed during the pandemic.

The impact of Covid-19 and the focus on it has exposed “weaknesses” in cancer health systems and in the cancer research landscape across the continent, which, if not addressed as a matter of urgency, will set back cancer outcomes by almost a decade, leading healthcare and scientific experts say.

Europe faces ‘cancer epidemic’ after estimated 1m cases missed during Covid​

 

[N860CR]

Almost every person I speak to that has had covid tells exactly same story. Must be just a bad cold going around the past couple of years?

Yet you won’t vaccinate your daughter out of spite? Really struggling to keep up with your line of thinking. Hopefully you didn’t pick anything up in Thailand

 

[Pushka]

Europe faces ‘cancer epidemic’ after estimated 1m cases missed during Covid​

Sadly predictable.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Sadly predictable.

The less people actively trying to avoid covid leads to more people being away from work and less staff to conduct screening. And more resources being used to fight covid rather than other diseases.

We probably don’t have the resources to fight both at the same time.

 

[JohnK]

Yet you won’t vaccinate your daughter out of spite? Really struggling to keep up with your line of thinking. Hopefully you didn’t pick anything up in Thailand

Nothing picked up in Thailand because we are cautious. Masks, avoiding crowds etc goes a long way to avoiding covid.

My line of thinking has got me this far unscathed even though I am one of those that have 10+ viral/bacterial infections a year. Please give me some credit with how I've handled this pandemic.

By the way Qld is on amber alert with recommendation of wearing masks on public transport. Mustn't be many following instructions. Lucky I'm still wearing my mask.

 

[N860CR]

Nothing picked up in Thailand because we are cautious. Masks, avoiding crowds etc goes a long way to avoiding covid.

My line of thinking has got me this far unscathed even though I am one of those that have 10+ viral/bacterial infections a year. Please give me some credit with how I've handled this pandemic.

By the way Qld is on amber alert with recommendation of wearing masks on public transport. Mustn't be many following instructions. Lucky I'm still wearing my mask.

Your position is that the entire world is doomed because people won’t wear masks and aren’t lining up for vaccinations every 2 weeks, yet you refuse to vaccinate your own daughter out of spite.

If you think walking around with a mask on your face has saved you… well there are no words.

 

[stm1sydney]

Came back from Thailand yesterday morning. Logged in to network ok, logged in to test system ok but could not log in to production system.

Called service desk for assistance. Someone I know answered the call. They've been off work for 1 week with covid. Wife had it as well. He hasn't experienced anything like it.

Almost every person I speak to that has had covid tells exactly same story. Must be just a bad cold going around the past couple of years?

I had a sniffle and a raised temp for 24 hours. Not even a bad cold. See? It affects people differently which is why one size fits all is not only ineffective but it is damaging. Individuals are best placed to decide what is best for them.

 

[Pushka]

Nothing picked up in Thailand because we are cautious. Masks, avoiding crowds etc goes a long way to avoiding covid.

My line of thinking has got me this far unscathed even though I am one of those that have 10+ viral/bacterial infections a year. Please give me some credit with how I've handled this pandemic.

By the way Qld is on amber alert with recommendation of wearing masks on public transport. Mustn't be many following instructions. Lucky I'm still wearing my mask.

Your risk appetite is all over the place. Masks will not prevent Covid if you are exposed to it. Even our Mask wearing SA CHO who is constantly wearing a mask, caught Covid.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I had a sniffle and a raised temp for 24 hours. Not even a bad cold. See? It affects people differently which is why one size fits all is not only ineffective but it is damaging. Individuals are best placed to decide what is best for them.

Your risk appetite is all over the place. Masks will not prevent Covid if you are exposed to it. Even our Mask wearing SA CHO who is constantly wearing a mask, caught Covid.

Wearing a mask is most effective to stop us giving covid to someone else.

99% of people are not wearing masks, so they aren’t turning their minds to whether they could be infectious and passing it on. And the implications of that.

 

[oz_mark]

Nothing picked up in Thailand because we are cautious. Masks, avoiding crowds etc goes a long way to avoiding covid.

My line of thinking has got me this far unscathed even though I am one of those that have 10+ viral/bacterial infections a year. Please give me some credit with how I've handled this pandemic.

It could also be that one of those 10 viral infections a year has conferred a level of immunity in this case.

 

[Vic]

Almost every person I speak to that has had covid tells exactly same story. Must be just a bad cold going around the past couple of years?

Yeah? Were they vaccinated?

I had a sniffle and a raised temp for 24 hours. Not even a bad cold. See? It affects people differently which is why one size fits all is not only ineffective but it is damaging. Individuals are best placed to decide what is best for them.

Yeah? Are you vaccinated?

I'm really not sure about the logic of ignoring the protection of the vaccines while claiming covid is just a "bad cold". It's just a bad cold for people who are VACCINATED.

As for mask wearing, a surgical mask does not protect you, it protects others. You can only claim your protecting yourself if you're wearing an N95 mask.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Vaccinated people now make up a majority of covid deaths​

Americans dying from the coronavirus received at least the primary series of the vaccine.

Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted, according to an analysis conducted for The Health 202 by Cynthia Cox, vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ted-people-now-make-up-majority-covid-deaths/​

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Vaccinated people now make up a majority of covid deaths​

Americans dying from the coronavirus received at least the primary series of the vaccine.

Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted, according to an analysis conducted for The Health 202 by Cynthia Cox, vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ted-people-now-make-up-majority-covid-deaths/​

The important message from that article is that early vaccinations will wane over time and ‘being vaccinated’ back then may not protect you now.

The article’s ‘call to action’ is to get your booster shot(s) to continue your protection.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

I had my 3 shots, and they want me to keep going back every 6 months/annually to keep getting shots because they wane over time, even though I've probably had covid. That's crazy.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I had my 3 shots, and they want me to keep going back every 6 months/annually to keep getting shots because they wane over time, even though I've probably had covid. That's crazy.

That’s the dilemma. My reading was they might have been referring to people vaccinated back in 2021. It’s now been over a year.

 

[Hvr]

Ended up at Highpoint shopping centre today and they had a walk in vaccine centre. Got my fourth shot, the Moderna Bivalent booster. Also got free RATS, hand sanitiser, and 10 N95/P2 surgical respirator masks.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Ended up at Highpoint shopping centre today and they had a walk in vaccine centre. Got my fourth shot, the Moderna Bivalent booster. Also got free RATS, hand sanitiser, and 10 N95/P2 surgical respirator masks.

Wait… was there more? Did you get a second booster absolutely free as long as you were within the first 100 callers??

Darn…. I got nothing except a jab. I would gone to a different place if I’d known about the show bags!