General Medical issues thread

[andye]

I’ve always wondered. If people can be trained to self cannulate for home hemodialysis how difficult can it be for DIY home venesections

@mrs.dr.ron im sure can be extra gentle

Home HD is into a fistula so can't miss
Venesection needles are pretty big but wouldn't be impossible to train someone up. However, you then have to dispose of the blood without alarming the neighbours

 

[drron]

Home HD is into a fistula so can't miss
Venesection needles are pretty big but wouldn't be impossible to train someone up. However, you then have to dispose of the blood without alarming the neighbours

When I first started having venesections my blood was used as an INR reference sample.
Much later the pathologist admitted to taking it home to use as fertiliser for his roses!

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

Home HD is into a fistula so can't miss
Venesection needles are pretty big but wouldn't be impossible to train someone up. However, you then have to dispose of the blood without alarming the neighbours

You put it on your roses !!

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

I’ve always wondered. If people can be trained to self cannulate for home hemodialysis how difficult can it be for DIY home venesections

@mrs.dr.ron im sure can be extra gentle

Ron has veins like a hose - blind freddy could do a vene on him !

 

[Pushka]

You put it on your roses !!

Gives new meaning to blood and bone fertiliser. Missing any limbs drron?

 

[TheRealTMA]

I’ve always wondered. If people can be trained to self cannulate for home hemodialysis how difficult can it be for DIY home venesections

@mrs.dr.ron im sure can be extra gentle

Well, a gastroenterologist was awarded an IgNoble prise for self-colonoscopy so anything's possible.

 

[Quickstatus]

self-colonoscopy

I can beat that. A surgeon I know did his own vasectomy

 

[TheRealTMA]

I can beat that. A surgeon I know did his own vasectomy

Voluntarily or ?

 

[Hvr]

Well, a gastroenterologist was awarded an IgNoble prise for self-colonoscopy so anything's possible.

It would be very ignoble to have to prise yourself open to perform your own colonoscopy.
It would suggest the prep didn't work and the process wouldn't be successful because he'd just be going through the motions.

 

[tgh]

TrTma must be on a commission to provide HVR with the lead in material for his stuff...

 

[JohnK]

It would be very ignoble to have to prise yourself open to perform your own colonoscopy.
It would suggest the prep didn't work and the process wouldn't be successful because he'd just be going through the motions.

I guess I'm I'm the same boat. I've been going through the motions for years.

 

[drron]

Well, a gastroenterologist was awarded an IgNoble prise for self-colonoscopy so anything's possible.

Wrong end. Barry Marshall had an endoscopy before and after he swallowed a culture of helicobacter pylori.
I once worked with his brother. A rare bird -A medical administrator with common sense.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Wrong end. Barry Marshall had an endoscopy before and after he swallowed a culture of helicobacter pylori.
I once worked with his brother. A rare bird -A medical administrator with common sense.

No it was the correct end. Barry didn't win an IgNobel. This fellow did.

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TrTma must be on a commission to provide HVR with the lead in material for his stuff...

Always open to offers! (But not for endoscope proceedures though...)

 

[RooFlyer]

Always open to offers! (But not for endoscope proceedures though...)

Last time I had a colonoscopy, when I was wheeled into theatre, the lady who was going to, er, 'prep' me was standing there. The amount of plastic shielding etc she was wearing was something I still haven't forgotten

 

[VPS]

I had day surgery last week and couldn’t believe the amount of plastic waste it involved.

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

I had day surgery last week and couldn’t believe the amount of plastic waste it involved.

It is incredible just how much is "disposible" these days ! Including all the actual operating tools that they are using these days - none of them washed, and sent off to the central sterilising department like in my old days !!

 

[Pushka]

I had day surgery last week and couldn’t believe the amount of plastic waste it involved.

Single use plastics. That campaign has been completely sidetracked once Covid arrived.

 

[Quickstatus]

disposible" these days ! Including all the actual operating tools

Yes most of the "key hole" surgical equipment single use
All the sterile wraps and surgical gowns are single use
The curtains separating bed bays - made of the same material as the Woolies green bags are thrown out after a set period (too hard to wash)

Single use plastics

Its a con
I reckon there is more plastic now than ever
Just about everything we buy at Woolies/etc are encased in some sort of plastic.

Woolies and others put fruit into single use plastic tubs, meat into similar single use plastic trays
Then add the reusable plastic bags - they use more plastic which are much harder to biodegrade than single use plastic bags.
Households now have large numbers of reusable plastic bags

I suppose plastic is not strictly necessary for DIY bleed if you really think about it

 

[drron]

Doing my Respiratory research project way back in my young days we needed to collect samples of arterial blood whilst people were exercising. We inserted silver (the metal not the colour) cannulas into their brachial artery. No plastic at all.

 

[Quickstatus]

silver

Some of the endovascular wires contain platinum -(obviously single use)

Endovascular = eg a stent procedure in the leg or heart