Getting Credit for Status nights/points for stays at multiple hotels on the same date

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Having fun at the moment with Accor suggesting it's not possible to credit status nights/points for stays at multiple hotels on the same dates, as "...it's impossible for a member to stay in multiple hotels at the same time."

Wish me luck as I'm pushing back...
 
Having fun at the moment with Accor suggesting it's not possible to credit status nights/points for stays at multiple hotels on the same dates, as "...it's impossible for a member to stay in multiple hotels at the same time."
I'm confused, are you making multiple bookings under your name at two different hotels on the same night and hoping to earn status nights and points on both?
 
I'm confused, are you making multiple bookings under your name at two different hotels on the same night and hoping to earn status nights and points on both?
Pretty much, yes. Not the norm thing I realise, but scrawling through the T&C's I can't see where it isn't possible.
 
Looking at the T&Cs, it states -:

Conditions for the effective completion of an Eligible Stay. When a Member completes an Eligible Stay in one of the hotels participating in the Programme, including at least one paid night spent at the hotel by the Member in question, the Status points and Status Nights corresponding to their stay will be credited to their account. Day Use shall only result in credited Points; however, Status Nights will not be added.

My take is that you're not a prisoner in hotel A, so it's impossible to say that you can't also complete an eligible stay in hotel B on the same dates.
 
Pretty much, yes. Not the norm thing I realise, but scrawling through the T&C's I can't see where it isn't possible.
Ah ok I understand, is this part of a mattress run to earn status nights?

Accor's rules are that the member needs to be staying in the hotel and being a French company they take a very realistic approach of this that isn't not possible for a member to physically stay in two different hotels on the same night. I don't see you getting very far in this regard.

If trying to earn status nights then there are much easier ways like the paid programs of (Accor Plus, All Voyageur and All Plus China) and with points or status credits programs like the Brazil All Signature.

As an aside point, if one is accidentally doing this (lets say checked into a hotel for 2 weeks) but then ducks away to a different city for a night and stays in an Accor hotel, that one night stay will often post first and then the system will reject the 2 week stay as there has already been a credit on that night.
 
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Ah ok I understand, is this part of a mattress run to earn status nights?
It wasn't a mattress run, but ended up being two valid bookings that coincided with the AFF NZ dinner weekend. Add in a little of TC Alfred, along with the fact that my +1 who was booked into the second stay completed that second stay (whilst I completed the AKL one) and you get the idea.

I've been credited for the non-AKL stay, but they're balking on the AKL one. I'm arguing that I have all the evidence to show that I did indeed use both stays and they're ignoring my request to point to the relevant T&Cs that show it's not possible for me to be credited.

As an aside point, if one is accidentally doing this (lets say checked into a hotel for 2 weeks) but then ducks away to a different city for a night and stays in an Accor hotel, that one night stay will often post first and then the system will reject the 2 week stay as there has already been a credit on that night.
This is near enough to a good example of what's happened in my instance.
 
The system won’t allow it and you have to be present at the hotel to get the points so very hard to be in two places at once
Interesting thing is... what's to stop me from booking to SYD hotels and checking into both. There's no rule that states I must be physically present in one hotel at all times.

Also, the hotel at which I was "least present" is the one that has credited, whereas they're arguing about the hotel in which I was majority physically present.
 
I've been credited for the non-AKL stay, but they're balking on the AKL one. I'm arguing that I have all the evidence to show that I did indeed use both stays and they're ignoring my request to point to the relevant T&Cs that show it's not possible for me to be credited.
If these are in two different cities then probably even harder to argue.

I'd probably suggest to just leave it alone because if the other room took advantage of an AccorPlus rate (without a member for a day certificate) or status benefits then if Accor did investigate you'd be in breach of a handful of the T&Cs and whilst I've never heard of anyone being kicked out of the program there is always a first ;).

Interesting thing is... what's to stop me from booking to SYD hotels and checking into both. There's no rule that states I must be physically present in one hotel at all times.
Nope you can book and check into as many hotels as you like but their rules are that points are credited for a room the member stays (note - not checked in to) in with their interpretation is that you can't possible stay in multiple rooms on a single night. That being said it would be funny so if someone from AFF wants a write a trip report checking into 10 different Accor hotels and changing hotel every hour then I'll read it.
 
I'd probably suggest to just leave it alone because if the other room took advantage of an AccorPlus rate (without a member for a day certificate) or status benefits then if Accor did investigate you'd be in breach of a handful of the T&Cs
Fair enough. In this case though, I'd argue that I contacted the relevant hotel, explained the situation and with their blessing, my +1 checked in and consumed the stay as per the original plan. So, I provided full disclosure to the hotel in question and they cleared it.

Nope you can book and check into as many hotels as you like but their rules are that points are credited for a room the member stays (note - not checked in to) in with their interpretation is that you can't possible stay in multiple rooms on a single night.
And if this is the game they want to play, I'll be arguing for the AKL stay to be credited as this is the most lucrative of the two. That aside though, I'm interested as to how they can possibly prove that you haven't stayed in a given hotel (short of trawling through CCTV). As per my earlier (absurdist) argument, you're not a prisoner in hotel A, so it's impossible to suggest that you couldn't also be using hotel B.
 
Interesting thing is... what's to stop me from booking to SYD hotels and checking into both. There's no rule that states I must be physically present in one hotel at all times.

Also, the hotel at which I was "least present" is the one that has credited, whereas they're arguing about the hotel in which I was majority physically present.
I’m just telling it how it is.
I’ve had it before where I have been booked in Melbourne for a week and had to urgently fly up to Sydney for a meeting and booked 1 night. They didn’t credit the whole Nelbourne week as a Diamond and after speaking with Accor they told me that the points will credit for the first hotel that you checked out of and they whole second booking effectively “crashes”.
I was told that in future circumstances you can tell the second hotel not to credit you for that stay and they can manually make a note of it.
I doubt you will have any luck TBH
 
I’ve had it before where I have been booked in Melbourne for a week and had to urgently fly up to Sydney for a meeting and booked 1 night. They didn’t credit the whole Nelbourne week as a Diamond and after speaking with Accor they told me that the points will credit for the first hotel that you checked out of and they whole second booking effectively “crashes”.
That makes it more interesting then as the first hotel I checked out of is the one they're not crediting.

I was told that in future circumstances you can tell the second hotel not to credit you for that stay and they can manually make a note of it.
I doubt you will have any luck TBH
Appreciate the insight and you're possibly right that this will be the eventual outcome. I figure there's no harm in arguing the point as either way, I'll be wanting them to credit one stay vs the other.
 
Fair enough. In this case though, I'd argue that I contacted the relevant hotel, explained the situation and with their blessing, my +1 checked in and consumed the stay as per the original plan. So, I provided full disclosure to the hotel in question and they cleared it.


And if this is the game they want to play, I'll be arguing for the AKL stay to be credited as this is the most lucrative of the two. That aside though, I'm interested as to how they can possibly prove that you haven't stayed in a given hotel (short of trawling through CCTV). As per my earlier (absurdist) argument, you're not a prisoner in hotel A, so it's impossible to suggest that you couldn't also be using hotel B.
They don’t have to prove anything. They will credit the first hotel that you checked out of.
 
my +1 checked in and consumed the stay as per the original plan. So, I provided full disclosure to the hotel in question and they cleared it.
So you're admitting you assigned your Accor benefits to another person? This isn't permitted. Potentially causing yourself issues if you say this to Accor.
Also individual hotels don't run the membership scheme, Accor HQ does. Individual hotels don't have any power to "clear" anything - happy to take your money for the stay though.

That aside though, I'm interested as to how they can possibly prove that you haven't stayed in a given hotel (short of trawling through CCTV). As per my earlier (absurdist) argument, you're not a prisoner in hotel A, so it's impossible to suggest that you couldn't also be using hotel B.
The system doesn't care if you physically stayed or not. Once checked in, it just wants to assign one room (for points/status nights purposes), using the logic you can't be in two rooms at the same time.

By the sounds of it, the system picked up your non-AKL stay first (either by booking time and/or time of check in). If that's the case, the outcome is as they programmed.
 
Which didn't happen in this particular instance. But that's probably neither here nor there in the scheme of it.
Or to rephrase @jase05:

They will credit the first stay to your account for a date that hits their systems. Stays to your account that hit their systems subsequently encompassing a date for which a stay has already been credited will be rejected.
 
I've had an overlapping stay in NT, although what happened in my experience was different to what was said above.

Had a 10 day stay at the Novotel in Darwin, and a side trip to Kakadu where I stayed at the Mercure Kakadu Crocodile Hotel. Keeping the room unused for a night in Darwin worked out better for me, as I could get a discounted long stay rate, and I didn't have to lug around my big suitcase.

After checking out of Mercure Kakadu, no nights or points were credited to my account even though it was an eligible rate. Once I checked out of the Novotel, that stay credited just fine. This was exactly what I wanted, so I left it.

No one at any pointed mentioned that I was supposed to be in another hotel or I wasn't allowed to have an overlapping stay.
 
By the sounds of it, the system picked up your non-AKL stay first (either by booking time and/or time of check in). If that's the case, the outcome is as they programmed.
Certainly looks that way. Regardless, figure it's worth a crack at trying to double dip given that I booked, paid for and utilised both stays.
 
From an AccorPlus perspective

Overlapping Stay - You are not eligible for reward and status points if the booking is overlapping with another stay. If you made more than 1 reservation in the same/different hotels with the same check-in date or overlapped dates, this will be considered under the overlapping booking.

Example: You have booked Novotel Sydney Darling Harbour for 5 nights (01 June to 06 June) and you have booked 2 nights( 02 June to 4 June) in IBIS Sydney Darling Harbour. This comes under overlapped booking and you will benefit from only 1 stay which has the first check-out date.
 

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