Gonna be a bunch of unhappy campers at Perth Airport today...

[docjames]

That would be possible until all the airbridges are full. No staff on the tarmac means they couldn't push back the empty aircraft, once pax disembarked, and bring in another to unload.


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But surely it's better to have some unloaded than none?

 

[medhead]

But surely it's better to have some unloaded than none?

Sure, of course. But as I read it some of the delays in Perth were because the airbridges were occupied.


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[simongr]

Also don't you have issues that aircraft can't navigate to gates without people on the ground showing them the way?

 

[nlagalle]

Also don't you have issues that aircraft can't navigate to gates without people on the ground showing them the way?

There is the directional lighting to guide the aircraft, but there wouldn't be anyone out to chock the aircraft to stop it moving.

 

[casanovawa]

I imagine you could reasonably simply hitch one of those tow vehicles up to get a plane back from an air bridge in all of 5 mins while another one was hitched up ready to be towed in without the paddle pop guy... Unless they only have one of the things in the airport...

In a 30 minute window who knows, you might only get one or two out and in, but if it was a couple of the biggers ones that's still 500 people you might get off...

Even more simply is get a couple of sets of stairs next to a plane while you tell the people inside to be ready to haul @ss if they want to be off... Be even easier with some buses but not sure Perth airports have any???

Its all about what you could do, as oppose to what you feel like doing when its the people in the plane getting stuffed around...

 

[docjames]

There is the directional lighting to guide the aircraft, but there wouldn't be anyone out to chock the aircraft to stop it moving.

So how do they park them off-stand whilst awaiting the gate for 5hrs then?

 

[medhead]

I imagine you could reasonably simply hitch one of those tow vehicles up to get a plane back from an air bridge in all of 5 mins while another one was hitched up ready to be towed in without the paddle pop guy... Unless they only have one of the things in the airport...

In a 30 minute window who knows, you might only get one or two out and in, but if it was a couple of the biggers ones that's still 500 people you might get off...

During normal operations they have someone walking next to the aircraft when pushing back. I've always assumed that this is to visually spot the rear of the aircraft to make sure it doesn't hit anything, as the guy driving the tow vehicle is going to have limited visibly.

Even more simply is get a couple of sets of stairs next to a plane while you tell the people inside to be ready to haul @ss if they want to be off... Be even easier with some buses but not sure Perth airports have any???

Its all about what you could do, as oppose to what you feel like doing when its the people in the plane getting stuffed around...

Just haul @ss! Sorry, but it is all about the risks involved. It is all about what is safe to do not what you could do. Telling people to get up and run is just stupidly risky. Wet steps, old people, young children, possible infirm or mobility restricted people, all that carry on luggage. A recipe for disaster.

 

[casanovawa]

Probably pull up the parking break handle or something...

 

[casanovawa]

And I seem to have gotten off a plane pulled up at Perth airport parked near where you can just walk into the terminal down a set of steps in way less than 30 minutes, that's even with the fluffing and farting that people often do... I'm not suggesting you use a starting gun but you maybe issue a gentle reminder that its 8 hours on the plane or maybe expedite things a little...

Sort of like they tell you to maybe hurry/run to your gate to make the flight if your way late, they don't say "Now remember to walk slowly, we don't want you slipping over or knocking some old dear down now"...

 

[Reggie]

Be even easier with some buses but not sure Perth airports have any???

There are buses, as I have used them from the remote stands for Skywest flights to the terminal.

 

[Reggie]

Wet steps, old people, young children, possible infirm or mobility restricted people, all that carry on luggage. A recipe for disaster.

Survial of the fittest.

It irritates me those that escorted onto the plane before everyone else, sit in emergency exits or seats right up the front, then jump up as soon as seat belt light goes off, then holds everyone up walking so slowly up the middle of the airbridge so no one can get past them.

 

[casanovawa]

Ok, never really seen them at Perth, but there you go...

 

[casanovawa]

Not sure if its survival of the fittest, but if the whole plane couldn't be off loaded coz i was the only one or two mobility impaired persons on it, i would more than happily stay and let the others get off... They could move me up to business class and i could stretch out a bit and enjoy some decent food!!

Not everyone would take this view...

Anyway, i suppose they weren't to know it would eventually stretch out to 8 hours, but if Qantas was going to take a hit on the bottom line due to owing compensation, maybe a bit of lateral thinking might have occurred...

 

[Blackadder]

On the subject of stairs, wouldn't like to be one with lightning in the vincinty, all it takes would be one bolt.
Likewise ground crews working with lightning around.

 

[casanovawa]

I wasn't suggesting that anyone do anything while the lightning was about...

From reading some stories it appeard that there were some windows when there wasn't lightning within the 5NM requirement and so Virgin and some others did try to resolve a few problems while Qantas seemed not to...

I'm suggesting that if the weather radar suggested there weren't lightning storms in the area, maybe something could have been done... If lightning was around, then yes, passengers stay on the planes and ground crew stay away...

 

[Reggie]

On the subject of stairs, wouldn't like to be one with lightning in the vincinty, all it takes would be one bolt.
Likewise ground crews working with lightning around.

I'm lauging thinking about how the FA's always "suggest holding both handrails as we exit the 717's in Perth or the other destinations.

 

[D747]

When was the last injury from lightning for passengers or staff please?

 

[medhead]

I know that a bloke was killed by lightening at a minesite in WA in about 2001


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[D747]

How is it possible that some airlines have a policy that they believe is safe and can continue to operate in Perth's recent conditions while another airline believes it is unsafe? It is either safe or not. Was anyone from DJ/VA struck by lightning in the last two days at PER?

 

[Blackadder]

How is it possible that some airlines have a policy that they believe is safe and can continue to operate in Perth's recent conditions while another airline believes it is unsafe? It is either safe or not. Was anyone from DJ/VA struck by lightning in the last two days at PER?

Probably not, maybe I am just be over cautious but where there is lightning around I would err on the side of caution.