Grammar Discussions

[TheRealTMA]

me too but it can be grocer's or grocers'

 

[kookaburra75]

Spotted in the article on the Skoda Enyaq

https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/motoring-news/skoda-enyaq-iv-confirmed-for-australia/news-story/fe93a4f294d378f9276592801ccfcbac

Claimed driving range is between 410km and 540km depending on specification.
The Enyaq can accept a chagrin rate of up to 125kWh, which should charge the battery from 5 to 80 per cent in about 22 minutes.

 

[JessicaTam]

Spotted in the article on the Skoda Enyaq

https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/motoring-news/skoda-enyaq-iv-confirmed-for-australia/news-story/fe93a4f294d378f9276592801ccfcbac

Claimed driving range is between 410km and 540km depending on specification.
The Enyaq can accept a chagrin rate of up to 125kWh, which should charge the battery from 5 to 80 per cent in about 22 minutes.

The article authors must be annoyed at that typo.

 

[kookaburra75]

The article authors must be annoyed at that typo.

Probably. But I was left wondering what an acceptable rate of "Chagrins" might me?

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Dispatch or despatch? I was always taught that it was dispatch prior to the event taking place and despatch post event - ie ‘I will dispatch it’ - ‘I have despatched it’ - thoughts of others?

 

[TheRealTMA]

Dispatch or despatch? I was always taught that it was dispatch prior to the event taking place and despatch post event - ie ‘I will dispatch it’ - ‘I have despatched it’ - thoughts of others?

Not my thoughts. I always use "dis".


The Green Book Authority says

"
The word comes into English in the early 1500s from Italian dispacciare, 'to send off with speed', although there were forms of the word in Spanish and Portuguese with des-.

The dis- spelling was the norm in English until Dr Johnson wrote his dictionary in 1755 and included the word as despatch. Since he himself used dispatch in his own writing and since all his sources that he used for the dictionary had the form dispatch, the theory is that this was a typographical error. From that moment on English has wavered over the correct spelling of this word."

To ‘dispatch’ or to ‘despatch’? - Macquarie

To dispatch or to despatch - that was the question from a dictionary user who had been taught at school that despatch was correct and dispatch was incorrect. Read more...

www.macquariedictionary.com.au

 

[Ekka]

Not my thoughts. I always use "dis".


The Green Book Authority says

"
The word comes into English in the early 1500s from Italian dispacciare, 'to send off with speed', although there were forms of the word in Spanish and Portuguese with des-.

The dis- spelling was the norm in English until Dr Johnson wrote his dictionary in 1755 and included the word as despatch. Since he himself used dispatch in his own writing and since all his sources that he used for the dictionary had the form dispatch, the theory is that this was a typographical error. From that moment on English has wavered over the correct spelling of this word."

To ‘dispatch’ or to ‘despatch’? - Macquarie

To dispatch or to despatch - that was the question from a dictionary user who had been taught at school that despatch was correct and dispatch was incorrect. Read more...

www.macquariedictionary.com.au

Americans use dispatch, and stress the first syllable, while Dr Johnson said despatch - in 1755 you say - which has been good enough for me for over half a century. I have no idea where the stress was placed in 1755, but my Australian version has more emphasis on the second syllable.

Also, that's the way I was taught to pronounce the word in this country by an eminent teacher in the sixties. Never dis.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Americans use dispatch, and stress the first syllable, while Dr Johnson said despatch - in 1755 you say - which has been good enough for me for over half a century. I have no idea where the stress was placed in 1755, but my Australian version has more emphasis on the second syllable.

Also, that's the way I was taught to pronounce the word in this country by an eminent teacher in the sixties. Never dis.

One could "desagree" here I suppose.

Ngram can be interesting in such cases.

Google Books Ngram Viewer

Google Ngrams: despatch, dispatch, 1800-2019

books.google.com

 

[Ekka]

One could "desagree" here I suppose.

Ngram can be interesting in such cases.

Google Books Ngram Viewer

Google Ngrams: despatch, dispatch, 1800-2019

books.google.com

Most amusing.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Most amusing.

And remember that "despacito" in spanish essantially means "slowly". Which I find somwhat amusing in this day and age for the use of "despatch".

edit: There's a very famous Spanish / crossover Latino song called "Despacito".

"The “Despacito” phenomenon is unparalleled. It took the music industry by surprise – who would’ve thought a Luis Fonsi song would become such a mainstream, crossover, global hit? The song was released on January 12, 2017, and the Latine music industry has never been the same since."

 

[NM]

Now, going to the source of all knowledge in the world, I asked "hey Siri .... how do you spell "dspatch" and she categorically spelled it "dispatch". And MS Word using English (Australia) dictionary accepted both spellings.

Not sure what that tells me???

 

[Captain Halliday]

Now, going to the source of all knowledge in the world, I asked "hey Siri .... how do you spell "dspatch" and she categorically spelled it "dispatch". And MS Word using English (Australia) dictionary accepted both spellings.

Not sure what that tells me???

That you don’t own a dictionary?

 

[NM]

That you don’t own a dictionary?

If you read many of my posts you will have already noticed that is likely to be true.

 

[Buzzard]

Now, going to the source of all knowledge in the world, I asked "hey Siri .... how do you spell "dspatch" and she categorically spelled it "dispatch". And MS Word using English (Australia) dictionary accepted both spellings.

Not sure what that tells me???

Quickly or slowly?

 

[NM]

Quickly or slowly?

well, that is relative, as my great Uncle Albert would say

 

[TheRealTMA]

Proof reading has a long history.

Rare ‘Wicked’ bible that encourages adultery discovered in New Zealand

First copy of the 1631 bible, which mistakenly reads ‘thou shalt commit adultery’, to be found in the southern hemisphere

www.theguardian.com

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

Proof reading has a long history.

Rare ‘Wicked’ bible that encourages adultery discovered in New Zealand

First copy of the 1631 bible, which mistakenly reads ‘thou shalt commit adultery’, to be found in the southern hemisphere

www.theguardian.com

I think a lot of people read that version and believed it !!

 

[Buzzard]

Proof reading has a long history.

Rare ‘Wicked’ bible that encourages adultery discovered in New Zealand

First copy of the 1631 bible, which mistakenly reads ‘thou shalt commit adultery’, to be found in the southern hemisphere

www.theguardian.com

Maybe it was OK at the time.

 

[themaiz]

Maybe it was OK at the time.

Or they knew what was going on and figured some reinforcement wouldn't hurt. Or could be that a piece of their movable type just... moved.

 

[VPS]

I wasn't sure whether to put this here or in the humour thread