Grammar Discussions

[Deleted member]

Allotment.

and then there is "Aswell"

 

[Deleted member]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

I remember when I was a kid being told off by a teacher for starting a sentence with "And". Apparently it's acceptable now. Also when you first send a letter to someone, you should end it "yours faithfully" and not "yours sincerely". Something about formalities.

That rule was promulgated by some latin scholar ( I believe ). as English is more Germanic the use of "And , so But and because"is actually fine. ( or So Prof Rolly Sussex says)

 

[burmans]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

Cant believe this thread is still goings strong with no shows of abating. Just shoes that pedantry is not dead I guess.

 

[SeatBackForward]

I wonder if this is really a question?

I'm note sure, are there such things as rhetorical questions?

 

[Buzzard]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

That rule was promulgated by some latin scholar ( I believe ). as English is more Germanic the use of "And , so But and because"is actually fine. ( or So Prof Rolly Sussex says)

I think you're having a lend of us GPH, so many grammar errors in your post :shock:

 

[anat0l]

commmas ?

Oops:!::!::!:

hmmm. Can you give an example?

I'm actually struggling to think of examples of this, too......

The sports commentator (or "reporter") / player interaction thing doesn't really fit as an example in this case.

Some statements can change in intention subtly by use or otherwise of a question mark, for example:

The two nations had started to finally recognise that continuing the war was placing undue pressure on their treasuries and people. For now, a truce.

versus

The two nations had started to finally recognise that continuing the war was placing undue pressure on their treasuries and people. For now, a truce?

and then there is "Aswell"

Who the hell writes "aswell"? That just sounds ridiculous.

 

[Deleted member]

I first encountered it with school teachers

 

[froggerADL]

hmmm. Can you give an example?

You are challenging me to give you an example?

Here's a recent one, there are better examples:

And the 70 MEL-SYD-MEL in Y- pax should be flying JQ?

 

[anat0l]

You are challenging me to give you an example?

Here's a recent one, there are better examples:

And the 70 MEL-SYD-MEL in Y- pax should be flying JQ?

That's more bad sentence structure (or lack thereof) than a misuse of a question mark.

 

[QF WP]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

I think you're having a lend of us GPH, so many grammar errors in your post :shock:

No, he's just old and losing it

 

[Warks]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

The abomination 'alright' has cemented itself in the current language despite the best efforts of my old-school Year 6 teacher. She used to say "It's two words: all and right. Not one word."

I bet there was a similar teacher back in about 1870 trying to prevent the rise of 'already'.

I accept that some things change and that's okay - we don't want to back to "to-day" and "to-morrow" do we?

 

[froggerADL]

That's more bad sentence structure (or lack thereof) than a misuse of a question mark.

I disagree. The first example is "You are challenging me to give you an example?" Without the ? it is a statement. To make it a question you should write "Are you challenging me to give an example?", not just stick a ? on the end of the first statement.

Similarly, the second statement should not end with a question mark. If it is supposed to be a question it should read "And should the 70 MEL-SYD-MEL in Y- pax be flying JQ?", not "And the 70 MEL-SYD-MEL in Y- pax should be flying JQ?"

 

[medhead]

I disagree. The first example is "You are challenging me to give you an example?" Without the ? it is a statement. To make it a question mark you should write "Are you challenging me to give an example?", not just stick a ? on the end of the first statement.

Similarly, the second statement should not end with a question mark. If it is supposed to be a question it should read "And should the 70 MEL-SYD-MEL in Y- pax be flying JQ?", not "And the 70 MEL-SYD-MEL in Y- pax should be flying JQ?"

Rearranging the sentence as you did, points to poor sentence structure as suggested?

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[marki]

Have to separate you two(too)


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[QF WP]

I disagree. The first example is "You are challenging me to give you an example?" Without the ? it is a statement. To make it a question you should write "Are you challenging me to give an example?", not just stick a ? on the end of the first statement.

Similarly, the second statement should not end with a question mark. If it is supposed to be a question it should read "And should the 70 MEL-SYD-MEL in Y- pax be flying JQ?", not "And the 70 MEL-SYD-MEL in Y- pax should be flying JQ?"

In the firtst example, where it is in the written form I would agree with you. However, asking the questions verbally, it could easily be a question with the correct intonation and use of facial muscles .

 

[QF WP]

Have to separate you two(too)


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Or the "separate you to (sic)" - where one doesn't know if it is the poor keyboard skill or use of the incorrect word.

 

[JohnK]

That's more bad sentence structure (or lack thereof) than a misuse of a question mark.

Bad sentence structure is acceptable if new migrants on 457 visas are able to get away with it and are also paid quite well.

"What program it is?"

 

[kpc]

Are we making any allowances for AFFers whose first language is not English?

 

[Pushka]

Are we making any allowances for AFFers whose first language is not English?

That's a tricky one. It's an English grammar and spelling thread. So maybe not? I wouldn't expect a thread about French grammar and spelling to make allowances for people whose first language is English. Or Chinese etc. And most of this paragraph is grammatically incorrect.

 

[whatmeworry]

Are we making any allowances for AFFers whose first language is not English?

In the firtst example, where it is in the written form I would agree with you. However, asking the questions verbally, it could easily be a question with the correct intonation and use of facial muscles .

What about Mods who can't spell? ...