Has anyone had success with the call-up "Marginal" xASA's?

[ADLhighflyer]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

No - check you booking canceelation rules - if Oz domestic then a cancellation should entitle you to a "full refund", in the case of a JASA that's all points and all $$$.

Thanks for clarifying this serfty.

 

[medhead]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

I can't find the original value calculation method, but I think my last 2 JASA were 259% (24000/60/$154).

What about total points cost per SC, regardless of what was paid? Or incorporate the cost per point for the cash payment and use it as a multiplier.

(Actual Point or Total Point cost)/SC x cash payment/(Total point - Actual points).

So my last one would be (24000/60)x $154/(31000-24000) = 8.8

 

[Dalek]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

Booked my last JASA on the eve of the booking engine change so I thought I would give the manual method a try this week

Rang during lunchtime Monday, I hadn't heard about the extension of hours.

Asked for an Any Seat Award booked into U fare class

First consultant (Laura) wasn't sure, usual statements... do you mean a Classic Award? You have to do it online.. finally admitted she didn't know how to do it and would transfer me to another operator

Second consultant (Mona), again said you can't do this over the phone, when pressed put me on hold and went to talk to her supervisor

Eventually got what I wanted, 2 JASA SYD - CBR @ 16k + $125.96 each, about $25 more expensive than the last one booked in April. Not great value but I need 30 more SC to go Platinum.

Spent another 20mins on the phone today asking why they charged my credit card twice :shock:

 

[map]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

My first attempt to book a JASA using the 'call-up' method at 10:30pm. I asked for a Any Seat Award to be booked into a U fare bucket. Slight pause then the consultant (Tricia) was right on to it.

Got the exact flights I had previously checked online viewing the Classic Awards: SYD-xBNE-TSV return in J, total 48,000 points plus $349.16 (and $7 credit card surcharge on top).

I was first quoted 86,373 points as all-inclusive and asked for the minimum points/maximum cash co-payment. FYI, the Classic Award was 48,000 points plus $135.17 (i.e. an extra $213.99 for the ASA).

Fairly painless but certainly not as easy/quick as the old 'online' method.

 

[kpc]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

Got the exact flights I had previously checked online viewing the Classic Awards: SYD-xBNE-TSV return in J, total 48,000 points plus $349.16 (and $7 credit card surcharge on top).

Exactly what i paid when I booked online (for June 2014) the night before the changes to the website were made!

 

[legroom]

MASA score

I had a re-think about the MASA score tonight.

My revised MASA score would take into account both PPS (points per SC) and $PS ($ per SC) with the formula being the product of PPS and $PS.

The rationale is that we all aim for the lowest PPS and the lowest $PS, therefore the lowest product would represent the best "yield" or "bang for your points".

See the following table for real bookings I had made in the last 3 weeks:

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[TD]Route[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PPS (points per SC)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]240[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]300[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]290[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]$PS ($ per SC)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1.45[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1.6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]2.03[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MASA score[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]348[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]480[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]591[/TD]
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I had just cancelled route #2 and will cancel route #3 next week as route 1 gives me the best yield.

The quest continues .... until MASA dies.


PS: subject to further revisions

 

[BenSQ380]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

Success.

I spoke with Sharnee (sp?) tonight. This was her first "ASA into U bucket" booking, but she had 'read the memo'. It took her a few moments to read the info on how to proceed and then off we went. I did prompt from time to time on how easy it used to be when accessible online!

Thanks JessicaTam, I followed your advice and am 1 from 1 . I thought I was up against it when the staff member tried to sway me from ASA to classic because "sometimes they can be less points" but a quick 'U' turn later and we were away! 2 pax ADL-SYD-CBR return in J for 96,000 points plus $388 (classic was 96,000 & $335). It's my first post so apologies to the fastidious amongst you IIHNTA (if I haven't nailed the acronyms).:shock:

 

[asg29e]

Re: MASA score

I had a re-think about the MASA score tonight.

My revised MASA score would take into account both PPS (points per SC) and $PS ($ per SC) with the formula being the product of PPS and $PS.

The rationale is that we all aim for the lowest PPS and the lowest $PS, therefore the lowest product would represent the best "yield" or "bang for your points".

See the following table for real bookings I had made in the last 3 weeks:

[TABLE="width: 290"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][TABLE="class: grid, width: 500, align: center"]
[TR]
[TD]Route[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PPS (points per SC)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]240[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]300[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]290[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]$PS ($ per SC)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1.45[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1.6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]2.03[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MASA score[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]348[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]480[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]591[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


I had just cancelled route #2 and will cancel route #3 next week as route 1 gives me the best yield.

The quest continues .... until MASA dies.


PS: subject to further revisions

Y'all need to come over to ADL to do your JASA status runs. I got ADL-BNE-TSV return for PPS 300, $PS .660, gives a MASA score of 198. Whoo hoo!!

 

[Deleted User]

Re: MASA score

I had a re-think about the MASA score tonight.

My revised MASA score would take into account both PPS (points per SC) and $PS ($ per SC) with the formula being the product of PPS and $PS.

The rationale is that we all aim for the lowest PPS and the lowest $PS, therefore the lowest product would represent the best "yield" or "bang for your points".

See the following table for real bookings I had made in the last 3 weeks:

[TABLE="width: 290"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][TABLE="class: grid, width: 500, align: center"]
[TR]
[TD]Route[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PPS (points per SC)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]240[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]300[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]290[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]$PS ($ per SC)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1.45[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1.6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]2.03[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MASA score[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]348[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]480[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]591[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


I had just cancelled route #2 and will cancel route #3 next week as route 1 gives me the best yield.

The quest continues .... until MASA dies.


PS: subject to further revisions

What routes are these, some very nice numbers you have there...

 

[legroom]

Re: MASA score

What routes are these, some very nice numbers you have there...

You got mail !

 

[legroom]

Re: MASA score

Y'all need to come over to ADL to do your JASA status runs. I got ADL-BNE-TSV return for PPS 300, $PS .660, gives a MASA score of 198. Whoo hoo!!

I know but the overnight stay to get your route precludes my options.

There is no red-eye from SYD !

 

[Grogan]

Re: MASA score

Just tried to book an identical jasa that I took in June this year for June next year.
This year was 2 adults TSV-BNE-MEL-HBA HBA-SYD-BNE-TSV, 144000 points $800 320sc earn. Can do the same trip next year for the same points but the $ cost has risen to $1100... It was the agents first time at booking the new method, but she seemed very to go through all the options for getting the price down.
Does the $300 increase seem normal or should I call back and try for a different booking agent?

 

[markis10]

Re: MASA score

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Does the $300 increase seem normal or should I call back and try for a different booking agent?

Its "normal", for instance the TSV DRW run started at 30K, last I checked it had jumped to 44K earlier this year.

 

[JessicaTam]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

Thanks JessicaTam, I followed your advice and am 1 from 1 . I thought I was up against it when the staff member tried to sway me from ASA to classic because "sometimes they can be less points" but a quick 'U' turn later and we were away! 2 pax ADL-SYD-CBR return in J for 96,000 points plus $388 (classic was 96,000 & $335). It's my first post so apologies to the fastidious amongst you IIHNTA (if I haven't nailed the acronyms).:shock:

Welcome to AFF, BenSQ380.

Looks like we have another ADL AFFER amongst us!

 

[JessicaTam]

Re: MASA score

Y'all need to come over to ADL to do your JASA status runs. I got ADL-BNE-TSV return for PPS 300, $PS .660, gives a MASA score of 198. Whoo hoo!!

What was the SC earn, point and $ cost? I.e. before the maths.

 

[markis10]

Re: MASA score

What was the SC earn, point and $ cost? I.e. before the maths.

Would be 120 SC, not quite as good as the DRW BNE MASA at same cost that earns 140 SC

 

[penegal]

re: Has anyone had success with the call-up method for "Marginal" xASA's?

Thanks JessicaTam, I followed your advice and am 1 from 1 . I thought I was up against it when the staff member tried to sway me from ASA to classic because "sometimes they can be less points" but a quick 'U' turn later and we were away! 2 pax ADL-SYD-CBR return in J for 96,000 points plus $388 (classic was 96,000 & $335). It's my first post so apologies to the fastidious amongst you IIHNTA (if I haven't nailed the acronyms).:shock:

Welcome to AFF BenSQ380

 

[penegal]

Re: MASA score

PPS credits, PPS $value... I already have PPS status... oh wait, wrong airline

This is going to get rather confusing, rather quickly.

 

[asg29e]

Re: MASA score

What was the SC earn, point and $ cost? I.e. before the maths.

Was a return flight, so 240 SCs, 72000 points, $158.37 (including fine for using CC)

 

[asg29e]

Re: MASA score

MASA score still needs a little bit of work.
If you look at HarryB's JASA, (post 375 up thread)
according to legroom's formula it gives a MASA score of 302, for the same route that got me a MASA score of 198. Yet I feel that his deal is slightly better than mine in that he somehow scammed them into giving it to him for less points than the classic award. Not sure how he did that but good luck to him.

And as for BenSQ380, his booking gives a MASA score of 201. Which I think is pretty good. Crikey! First post and it's a JASA to make others weep. Either a fast learner or a long time lurker.