HHonors experiences.....good and bad data points.

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I thought it might be beneficial to have a thread that discusses the pros and cons of the HH workings itself, in just one thread. The concept is not to discuss individual hotels here, but more the internal processes of the HHonors machine.

The reason for this has come this year for me (twice) which has left me wondering about the fallibility of the system and even briefly about the integrity (or possible lack thereof).

I've been a HH member for five or so years, of which 4 of them have been as diamond. I've never really had an issue with the awarding of either base points/stays/nights, which have consistently come through promptly and correctly (with the exception of one minor bonus point issue which I never bothered chasing up as it was only a relatively small amount). However, this year has seen two reasonably expensive stays (in my history, most stays are short, relatively inexpensive visits) which total between them about 350 000 points (base and bonus). All other stays this year, as per usual, posted promptly without error however both of these more expensive (read larger point award stays) went firstly to a "pending" message and then to post as zero points/zero stays/zero nights. Both had to be chased up and in the case of the second of the two, chased up 3 times with little more than lip service from HH diamond desk.

After the first, I thought it was just a simple mistake, but after the second, I must admit to wondering if this is a common ploy. Deny the stay and if a complaint is made, then award it, if no complaint made........you beaut! For the record, the stays were genuine point awarding stays as per the HH T&Cs and no dispute was made by HH.

Has anyone had similar experiences, or was I just unlucky.....twice?
 
I had to chase points for a stay at Brisbane Hilton last month. The points only posted for 1 of the 2 nights. At the time I put it down to separate reservations for each night. They were issued promptly after query though.
 
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Has anyone had similar experiences, or was I just unlucky.....twice?
I have come across reports (here or on FT) that this is often what happens with high point earning stays ... it may be the property (It seems the property pays HHonors 5% of the pre tax folio value when points are awarded) or it may be an automatic hold for review with the HHonors systems (the review process often left incomplete).
 
I have just experienced this with the SLS in Las Vegas. Will be emailing HH with some other thoughts on the property too. But same thing happened, went to pending, and then zero points.

I'll be making sure I get my quadruple Qantas points too.

This want overly expensive - USD$2K, but a similar amount at San Fran Union Square posted OK two days later so maybe it's property specific?
 
First time it happened to me was last year after an expensive stay in Maldives. When saw 0 points credited immediately called the diamond desk, talked to a supervisor and everything was fixed on the spot.
It did happen again since, can't remember where but it wasn't an expensive stay as the above one so I didn't worry about it too much and after a few days the number magically changed from 0 to the right amount.
I don't think HH holds back points intentionally, it's probably something to do with their system which sometimes takes longer to calculate the right amount.
 
Interestingly the receipt isn't available to view online either - same for everyone else with pending or zero points?
 
I have come across reports (here or on FT) that this is often what happens with high point earning stays ... it may be the property (It seems the property pays HHonors 5% of the pre tax folio value when points are awarded) or it may be an automatic hold for review with the HHonors systems (the review process often left incomplete).

Thanks serfty, it's good to know I'm not the only one who's noticed.

I don't think HH holds back points intentionally, it's probably something to do with their system which sometimes takes longer to calculate the right amount.

One of mine was the same hotel as you boomy, the other was Cairns who actually went into bat with me to get HH to even acknowledge my emails. Originally, I thought the award problem was likely Rangali being tight (as we do know they like to play the poor hard done by hotel that has to cope with too many diamonds cashing in their points), but I don't for one minute believe Cairns had anything to do with the situation given that a) they actually contacted HH directly and advised them that my stay was a point accruing stay and they confirmed the dates, amounts etc; and b) stays before and after the problem stay awarded correctly and promptly.

I too doubt it's an underhanded thing, but I also suspect if high value stays slip though unnoticed, then HH has a tidy win!

Interestingly the receipt isn't available to view online either - same for everyone else with pending or zero points?

Often my receipts are unavailable on-line. In fact I can so rarely access on-line receipts that I've long since stopped trying. I just ensure I always get a printed copy from the hotel and ensure I don't lose it!
 
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Often my receipts are unavailable on-line. In fact I can so rarely access on-line receipts that I've long since stopped trying. I just ensure I always get a printed copy from the hotel and ensure I don't lose it!
plus one to this - I always endeavor to get a final folio printout before leaving, even though it does mean no express check-out.
 
Often my receipts are unavailable on-line. In fact I can so rarely access on-line receipts that I've long since stopped trying. I just ensure I always get a printed copy from the hotel and ensure I don't lose it!

I find US hotels much better than Aus. But I'm the same, always get a printed copy!
 
plus one to this - I always endeavor to get a final folio printout before leaving, even though it does mean no express check-out.

Same but as I know I am going to misplace the print out, I always ask them to email the receipt to me :)
 
I've just checked my last weekend, 3 night triple point stay and find HH has duded me about 10000 points again. They're chasing them up for me :rolleyes:.
 
I have never checked to see if my stays are being posted. Thanks swanning_it for posting, I'm going to check my account.
 
I have never checked to see if my stays are being posted. Thanks swanning_it for posting, I'm going to check my account.

I'm saving for a European holiday in a few years, so I'm definitely watching all points carefully. Waste not, want not! ;)

EDIT - this year alone, if I hadn't been watching my points balance, Hilton would have duded me 370421 points, which is approximately half of my current balance and represents about 3 weeks of future, wisely chosen HH stays (using P+P). I'm still not convinced entirely that it was computer errors. My advice is track your points to ensure you get what was promised.
 
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Getting to be an old thread now, but Hilton Cairns points have failed to post correctly......again. This time short about 11000 from a 57000 (or so) point stay. Once again it was on a merged folio booking (stay extended by one night) and it looks like it's that night that didn't credit at all.

The good thing is that we now all know what causes these issues, the bad thing is the retro claim and wait for points to post correctly!
 
Does anyone know what the deadline for claiming missing points is.On the claim missing points form it states 6 months.When I rang I was told 12 months to claim. Maybe its correct and you have extra time if you call over filling out the form.
 
Recently returned from 2 weeks in the States in Hilton hotels. Noticed I was dudded a few points here and there so I sent them an email before going to bed a few nights ago. Was surprised to find a reply and all points posted the next morning.
 
Was surprised to find a reply and all points posted the next morning.
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but my hopes are not raised based on previous experience. I've submitted the claim, attached the invoice, calculated it all for them and used the exchange rate they used at the time, explained about the added day and the fact the missing points tally exactly with the merged amounts, so hopefully it will be an easy exercise of them just checking my figures and posting the points! In the end, missing was -

Base points - 3824
Triple promo-7764
VIP 50% bonus-1912
Total Points due - 13384

Krisflyer miles - 382
4xKF promo - 1146
Total Miles due - 1528

Nothing to be sneezed at IMHO
 
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but my hopes are not raised based on previous experience. I've submitted the claim, attached the invoice, calculated it all for them and used the exchange rate they used at the time, explained about the added day and the fact the missing points tally exactly with the merged amounts, so hopefully it will be an easy exercise of them just checking my figures and posting the points! In the end, missing was -

Base points - 3824
Triple promo-7764
VIP 50% bonus-1912
Total Points due - 13384

Krisflyer miles - 382
4xKF promo - 1146
Total Miles due - 1528

Nothing to be sneezed at IMHO
Hi swanning_it. if your saving for the european adventure why don't you use points and points to maximise your HH points??
 
Most often than not, my merged bookings' points tally ended up being wrong, haven't had time to chase all of them up yet, almost need an accountant to work through mine, too complicated and way too many merged stays. The online claim form is not too user friendly either, would have been much better if they provide a comment section and a place to attach the invoice to avoid further follow up call, or are they making it hard so that people won't bother?
 
Most often than not, my merged bookings' points tally ended up being wrong, haven't had time to chase all of them up yet, almost need an accountant to work through mine, too complicated and way too many merged stays. The online claim form is not too user friendly either, would have been much better if they provide a comment section and a place to attach the invoice to avoid further follow up call, or are they making it hard so that people won't bother?

Saw the claim form and thought it was ridiculous myself, so just sent an email through customer care form and had the points in no time.
 
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