How to make enemies...! [by weighing carry-on]

[Matt_01]

So who carries all the shampoos etc? Sunburn cream. Other medicals, deodorants etc you can’t HLO. Unless you rely on hotel ones I guess.

Everything I need fits in in my quart bag, e.g. roll on deodorants, and other toiletries . If I need sunscreen I will take a small tube or decant what I need into a small bottle. I completely rely on hotel supplied products. So long as my liquids, creams, get etc are under a 100ml they go in hand luggage. Anything else I may require I just purchase as required.

Maybe I was not clear enough, I do not expect MrsM to pack anything I would need for a trip. What MrsM takes is up to her. More often than not I end up with their extras that than cannot stuff in their luggage.

 

[Pushka]

Everything I need fits in in my quart bag, e.g. roll on deodorants, and other toiletries . If I need sunscreen I will take a small tube or decant what I need into a small bottle. I completely rely on hotel supplied products. So long as my liquids, creams, get etc are under a 100ml they go in hand luggage. Anything else I may require I just purchase as required.

Maybe I was not clear enough, I do not expect MrsM to pack anything I would need for a trip. What MrsM takes is up to her. More often than not I end up with their extras that than cannot stuff in their luggage.

I’m clearly doing something wrong ........

 

[suze2000]

Last time I went OS I took half size bottles of shampoo etc. Made a surprising difference to the weight of my bag. For the longest time, if my bag weighed more than 13kg on checkin, I started chucking things as unnecessary early on in the trip. These days, I accept that my bag sometimes needs to be heavier, but I also strongly believe that if you can't carry the bag up a set of stairs in The Tube, you shouldn't have packed it that way. That means I've found myself refusing help out of principle, though as I'm approaching 50, I'm becoming more flexible on that one.

 

[BrockF]

I one time went with no carryon back in the JASA award days Sydney - Cairns. All gear was checked in and then not put on flight. QF was unable to get the bag to me the same day. Leaving on a boat that evening for a week away with no luggage apart from wallet and headphones. Luckily spent the week in shorts and borrowed clothes. Arrived back at airport a week later, picked up bag from luggage services and checked back in for flight home. Haven’t trusted Q tags again and have been predominantly HLO ever since.

 

[suze2000]

Leaving on a boat that evening for a week away with no luggage apart from wallet and headphones. Luckily spent the week in shorts and borrowed clothes.

As a person of size (ahem), losing my luggage would be a minor disaster. I can't just borrow clothes. Assembling a wardrobe has taken years and is almost exclusively done online. Last time I travelled my luggage was delayed on the first leg. I was lucky as I was in London and many British High St stores carry a small extended size range of clothing, and I was staying with friends who promptly threw my travel clothes in the wash so I could put them back on ASAP. The items I bought out of desperation were horrible, but covered my body. But I was very VERY happy to see my luggage arrive late the second day. And that only happened so quickly because I was flying J. Apparently if you are in whY it can take weeks to get your things back. I also learnt that trip that I should never fly in anything but sneakers, because if you are stuck with only one pair of shoes, they should be the most comfy thing you own. Even though the shoes I wore to fly were comfy, I found out that walking long distances in them (I went to the V&A) suddenly rendered them into Blister Death Foot Killers.

 

[GoldCanyon340]

No weighing of carry on for me this weekend. I was on the delayed 701 MEL-ADL on Sunday and we ended up being the last flight of the day from T1; there wasn't going to be any weighing of luggage in a situation like that methinks.

 

[nutwood]

I one time went with no carryon back in the JASA award days Sydney - Cairns. All gear was checked in and then not put on flight. QF was unable to get the bag to me the same day. Leaving on a boat that evening for a week away with no luggage apart from wallet and headphones. Luckily spent the week in shorts and borrowed clothes. Arrived back at airport a week later, picked up bag from luggage services and checked back in for flight home. Haven’t trusted Q tags again and have been predominantly HLO ever since.

My experience has been that Q tags and Sydney domestic do not mix. To their credit, Qantas have been excellent at getting my errant luggage to me. In one instance, a staff member loaded my bag into his car and made the 280 km round trip from Mildura to Renmark, just so my bag would be waiting at my hotel for me in the evening.
Since I realised the Sydney issue and stopped using Q tags through there, the only times my luggage has gone astray have been totally understandable, when I've sprinted from one flight to the next and they've been pushing back as I'm doing up my seatbelt.

 

[drron]

My experience has been that Q tags and Sydney domestic do not mix. To their credit, Qantas have been excellent at getting my errant luggage to me. In one instance, a staff member loaded my bag into his car and made the 280 km round trip from Mildura to Renmark, just so my bag would be waiting at my hotel for me in the evening.
Since I realised the Sydney issue and stopped using Q tags through there, the only times my luggage has gone astray have been totally understandable, when I've sprinted from one flight to the next and they've been pushing back as I'm doing up my seatbelt.

Which is why sensible people put their Q tags on their cabin baggage.Always ensures it gets to the correct destination.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

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[Pushka]

No weighing of carry on for me this weekend. I was on the delayed 701 MEL-ADL on Sunday and we ended up being the last flight of the day from T1; there wasn't going to be any weighing of luggage in a situation like that methinks.

They did this to us for the last flight that was delayed by 30 minutes a couple of weeks ago. Everyone was lined up as they’d made the go to gate announcement but crew hadn’t arrived from another flight. Weighing luggage was the last straw.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

So who amongst us is going to be the smart ar** on May 20th next year when the official definition of the Kg changes."Have these scales been checked against the new Kilogram?"
The Definition of The Kilogram Is About to Change. Here's What That Really Means

The kilogram was originally defined as the mass of one litre of pure water at a temperature of 4 degrees Celsius at standard atmospheric pressure, however this definition was problematic as the density of water is very marginally dependent upon pressure and as pressure includes mass as a factor, a circular dependency becomes apparent hence in the interest of precision, the kilogram was redefined as precisely the mass of a standard mass (the platinum and iridium International Prototype), which was created to approximate the original definition! Please don't ask me how you create a precise mass of an relative approximation but since our precise standard is no longer precise, I guess the answer is that a precise mass of an approximation is actually also an approximation!

I actually have the same problem. It's not just our IPK and/or our IPK copies that suffer mass drift. My mass has suffered drift for many years, which now has me thinking that maybe I have not gained weight, it's the bloody International Prototype Kilogram's fault!

No wonder we have so much trouble with luggage weight!

 

[Deleted member 29185]

I'm not sure Two-Housing lives to the principles of minimalism

If you saw the size of my second haus in Suyan Village, you may reevaluate that statement! One single bed and a box that loosely resembles a wardrobe (and I'm not joking )

 

[fifo]

I think people need to remember the reason to carry on is primarily to have what you need for the flight on hand.

Yes bags get delayed and go missing but that is very rare. I don't think it's fair to say "well I can't fit my clothes for 2 weeks along with the gifts for my 18 nieces in my carry on therefor it's wrong". The original intention was to have a book and jumper to keep you entertained and warm on the flight.

And again I'll state, how the heck can you not keep under 7kg?? My checked baggage for a month is almost never more than 9kg. Maybe 11 if I'm scuba-ing and skiing in the same trip.

I think you need to remember your myopic world view is not the only one out there. You have no idea what other people need for work and why. And yet here you are telling everyone else what they 'need'.

 

[sostopher]

This isn't so much a problem with Qantas/VA getting greedy, since everyone gets 20kg checked included in their fare; it's an OH&S issue for FAs and passengers. 7kg is obviously the highest amount of weight they'd be happy being thrown/falling on someone.

With a few flights booked in the next months, I am definitely looking forward to the adult tantrums. Though, I really feel for the staff here, they will no doubt have tonnes of abuse hurled at them for following policy.

 

[Austman]

7kg is obviously the highest amount of weight they'd be happy being thrown/falling on someone.

I doubt it. If that were true, even JQ (a Qantas group airline) is happy with 10kg falling.

But the fact remains, it's not just kg that does the damage with falling objects. It's the shape and size of the object. Smaller ones actually cause more injuries to passengers as they actually are more likely to move and fall out. A single, legal sized carry-on, weighing 10kg is unlikely to just "fall out".

 

[sostopher]

It's the shape and size of the object.

I'd prefer a duffel bag to fall on me than a large hard case that's for sure

 

[Comoman]

How on earth do BA have 2 x 23kg as a hand baggage allowance then!

Hand baggage allowances | Information | British Airways

I know it's a different airline etc. but the inconsistency is unfathomable.

 

[nutwood]

I think you need to remember your myopic world view is not the only one out there. You have no idea what other people need for work and why. And yet here you are telling everyone else what they 'need'.

I can't help feeling that's a bit harsh. It's hardly a myopic world view to point out that the intention of carry-on is in fact carry-on. Wanted on voyage! Especially on Qantas who supply a minimum of 23 kg checked luggage allowance with every flight.
I can understand that there may be some people who need to carry a heavy lap-top and a multitude of paper-work with them, but since this discussion opened I've been surreptitiously spying on my fellow passengers and I've yet to see anyone who trundles two substantial bags into the lounge, availing themselves of the luggage they are travelling with. In some instances, I've been sharing flights and my conclusion is that those passengers with substantial carry-on are travelling HLO, simply to avoid checking bags in. Nice for them, but a bit rough on others who check luggage and then struggle to find room in the over head lockers. Surely the philosophy behind HLO is travelling ultra light, not compressing your normal luggage into a couple of solid wheeled bags that just pass for carry-on?
Perhaps instead of weighing luggage, Qantas should put corrugated flooring everywhere so everyone had to actually carry their carry-on. Bet that'd sort the problem.

 

[Austman]

I'd prefer a duffel bag to fall on me than a large hard case that's for sure

Irregular shaped objects apparently cause even more injuries! A larger sized (but regulation) cabin bag is unlikely to fall. Sure pax need to be able to lift them safely but I've yet to see one fall by itself... I've seen lots of other items fall...

I think a problem with any "crack down" is that the crew then have to stick rigidly to company policy. And company policy is, IMO, a bit of a silly 7kg limit at the moment. If even JQ can allow 10kg...

But the crack down on size and quantity, IMO, makes a lot of sense.

 

[suze2000]

@nutwood I think it's unlikely that AFFers are the people carrying on the kitchen sink. I'm seriously upset that my single 8kg bag is going to be deemed unsuitable because there are d*cks who are carrying the kitchen sink. And it's not just about avoiding the baggage carousel. As I stated before, the loss of my luggage would completely ruin a holiday for me because it would be almost impossible to find clothing that fits in most destinations.