How will Ukraine Situation affect travel

[Must...Fly!]

It is going to be a rough year or so. We are fortunate that we don't need as much energy for heating like Europe does in winter.

 

[jrfsp]

It is going to be a rough year or so. We are fortunate that we don't need as much energy for heating like Europe does in winter.

Indeed, rising cost, inflation / interest rate rises on huge debts, falling demand. Perfect storm.

US airlines already starting cutting Airlines Begin to Cut Flying as They Grapple With Fuel Costs

 

[Danger]

Airfares on the rise as fuel costs soar

Qantas CEO Alan Joyce has said that Qantas fares will increase by 7 per cent initially to account for increasing oil costs, however, could see further price hikes in the future.

australianaviation.com.au

QF to raise fares 7 % to start with.....

Well he jumped on that like a fat kid on a cupcake, didn't he. I'm sure he'll be just as quick to drop fares when the oil price falls.

 

[vetrade]

I've noticed a lot of intra-Europe fares have jumped in price over the past 2 weeks too - some I've been watching have doubled from what they were in early Feb.

 

[Melburnian1]

It is going to be a rough year or so. We are fortunate that we don't need as much energy for heating like Europe does in winter.

Between 60 and 70 per cent of the Australian Pipeline Trusts' natural gas sales (for heating) are to Victoria, so some of us need a fair amount of heating (though obviously not as much as Europeans).

 

[Pushka]

I've noticed a lot of intra-Europe fares have jumped in price over the past 2 weeks too - some I've been watching have doubled from what they were in early Feb.

Qatar fares have increased significantly from when we booked.

 

[vetrade]

Qatar fares have increased significantly from when we booked.

I just got off the phone after re-routing our OWA back from Europe through DOH instead of risking our HEL - HND flight being cancelled because of closure of the Russian airspace. Since making the changes a week ago, I have had to make 3 calls to try and get the itinerary re-ticketed.
Last week I was told the extra taxes would be around $400 for 2 pax but have just been told they will now be an extra $1100 because BA & QR have just jacked up their fuel surcharges.

Not happy! If QF had somebody competent working in the call centre to get it re-ticketed when I made the changes it would have cost me $700 less.

 

[Flashback]

I've noticed a lot of intra-Europe fares have jumped in price over the past 2 weeks too - some I've been watching have doubled from what they were in early Feb.

A perfect storm. It's also due to increased demand as lots of countries in Europe are lifting entry requirements.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Between 60 and 70 per cent of the Australian Pipeline Trusts' natural gas sales (for heating) are to Victoria, so some of us need a fair amount of heating (though obviously not as much as Europeans).

So...about what I said then.

 

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Note that several posts not related to this thread topic have been moved to the thread discussing the spread of Corona Virus.

 

[jrfsp]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

US travellers already declining transatlantic travel due to "war in Europe" I wouldn't be surprised if similar from here.

"Searches for USA - Europe flights dropped 10% since Ukraine invasion, The trend is a reversal of that seen in the opening weeks of 2022, when waning concern about the omicron variant of Covid-19 spurred a strong rebound in North Atlantic demand. The more recent decline isn’t seasonal and has seen no parallels in other regions nor in the domestic U.S. market"

 

[Must...Fly!]

US travellers already declining transatlantic travel due to "war in Europe" I wouldn't be surprised if similar from here

It's very pleasant in Europe at the moment, outside war zones anyway.

Perhaps the Americans are right to be concerned?

Or maybe not.

34% of Americans Can Find Ukraine on a Map

Voters who can identify Ukraine on a map are more likely to back stronger policy responses against Russia, according to a new Morning Consult poll.

morningconsult.com

 

[pippen_2k]

Some solid price hikes are occurring.
I have been planning Canberra to Denver in July through Qantas.
For the past month the flight has been $2400 return. Today I looked and it's now $3400.
So much for that anticipated 7% price increase on International airfares.

 

[dajop]

Some solid price hikes are occurring.
I have been planning Canberra to Denver in July through Qantas.
For the past month the flight has been $2400 return. Today I looked and it's now $3400.
So much for that anticipated 7% price increase on International airfares.

School holidays? Sounds like demand is driving up prices on those particular days, not so much a fare increase.

 

[Must...Fly!]

School holidays? Sounds like demand is driving up prices on those particular days, not so much a fare increase.

The US/North America would be a more popular summer destination. Some will want to avoid Europe.

 

[jrfsp]

Ground transport becoming more expensive, uber adding a fuel surcharge.

Others will likely follow

 

[Quickstatus]

I can see another year of staycations on the cards.

 

[jrfsp]

Delta airlines warning of 10% increase in airfares across the industry

Airline giant Delta warns oil increases mean higher ticket prices

The jump in oil prices since Russia invaded Ukraine is set to lead to higher airfares.

www.bbc.com

 

[CrowsFeet]

Prices will rise. Saw that story about Russia having 50% leased aircraft or something, and making laws that makes it hard for the leasing companies to get their aircraft back. Something about a "Cape Town Agreement" or something being broken. Well, there goes insurance and leasing costs - and therefore, our ticket costs.

 

[kelvedon]

Prices will rise. Saw that story about Russia having 50% leased aircraft or something, and making laws that makes it hard for the leasing companies to get their aircraft back. Something about a "Cape Town Agreement" or something being broken. Well, there goes insurance and leasing costs - and therefore, our ticket costs.

The Cape Town agreement was designed to standardize transactions involving movable property, e.g. aircraft.
As I understand it, for aviation, and pertinent to Russia, it is meant to help in the event of a payment default or possession dispute of a leased aircraft where the physical repossession is difficult.
Signatories (the Governments) to the agreement would aid the repossession of the disputed aircraft to the owners.
Russia is one of the signatories, but has chosen to ignore the treaty, which if enforced, would lead to the majority of its commercial airliners being returned to its Irish or Bermudian based owners.