Infants in premium cabins

[kpc]

My child is always well behaved. .it's others who can't control their children!

 

[drron]

If a parent appears to be doing everything that they can do help their infant/child cope with the flight they can sit in the same F or J cabin with me anyday.I only object to parents who are oblivious to their childs needs.
On more than 1 occasion I have seen J or F pax offer to help out parents with their children.The last time on AA GYR-MIA.I don't think the mother got to hold her infant for more than 10% of the flight.

 

[LZ HMI]

if they decide to throw a tanty, then the usual methods of dealing with those are simply not available on a plane.

I believe my son did once spend a few minutes on the "naughty step" at the front of an SQ A380....

 

[R36snowbound]

My wife and mother in law recently took my two kids (aged 2 and 4) to Europe on points with SQ.
Mother in law and 4 year old in suites and wife and 2 year old in business (manged to snag two saver rewards in each class), so 2 in suites on saver tickets was cheaper than 2 additional seats in business using standard redempton rates.
Kids were well behaved and the extra support from SQ staff in the premium cabins was amazing according to my wife.
IMO, if a kid is crying and the parent is doing all that they can to remedy the situation, other passangers are supportive. Parents who let let their kids run wild as if they are in their house is another matter.
Enjoy the trip.

 

[LZ HMI]

Any particular objection to giving infant a bit of anti-histamine before flight ? after checking with your doctor, of course.

I am the doctor, and I would say don't do it, especially not young babies. No medicine is guaranteed to be safe for everyone, and response can be unpredictable. Phenergan, for example, is contra-indicated for under 2s.

Incidentally, this may go for adults too. Mid-flight is a bad moment to try a sleeping tablet or any new medicine for the first time!

 

[Digger11]

Why is it called business class then ????
i actually find it rude that a 4 month crying baby is allowed in business class, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
One of the reasons many of us pay for business and sometimes first is for the peace i expect.

 

[incumbent]

One of the reasons many of us pay for business and sometimes first is for the peace i expect.

Based on flawed assumptions, it would appear.

 

[dmitri]

"Why is it called business class then ???? "

wow, is that a legit question. Should there be a cabin called holiday class then?

 

[Quickstatus]

Why is it called business class then ????
i actually find it rude that a 4 month crying baby is allowed in business class, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
One of the reasons many of us pay for business and sometimes first is for the peace i expect.

Some airlines call their business class something else. So nothing to do with business.

 

[QF WP]

My child is always well behaved...

Excuse me *splutter*, did I miss something somewhere - since when? I have never seen kpc +1 pregnant . Belated congratulations if I have somehow missed it

 

[mannej]

Why is it called business class then ????
i actually find it rude that a 4 month crying baby is allowed in business class, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
One of the reasons many of us pay for business and sometimes first is for the peace i expect.

And it is my opinion that it is fairly closed mind to think that those under a certain age are the only ones that can cause disruption to one's peace and quiet.

There are ample examples out there of those of an age that should have some self control causing annoyance out there. But hey, you are entitled to your opinion as you do point out

 

[N860CR]

It's more an issue with the parents than the child. I've been on a JQi flight (SYD-HKT) where a baby back in economy screeched so loudly that the entire aeroplane was jumping in fear every 60 seconds. I can understand an upset child... But when it goes on for 8 hours it becomes a discipline issue.

As a contrast, on a BNE-SYD last week (E90) I was sitting next to a young mother with a new baby. He was restless and clearly unhappy but she had planned ahead and had enough to occupy himself with (although, in the end, he spent half an hour squeezing my finger which seemed to keep him calm).

There's ways of dealing with all issues. If you can't control your child then yes, it doesn't belong in a premium cabin. Nor economy. Nor out in public.

 

[trippin_the_rift]

Why is it called business class then ????
i actually find it rude that a 4 month crying baby is allowed in business class, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
One of the reasons many of us pay for business and sometimes first is for the peace i expect.

I can't believe some adults are allowed into business class either!

I agree first class might be the better place for kids as travellers are generally more successful and to be successful you need to constantly evolve and adapt to your surroundings. In fact, thinking about it I don't recall any screaming infants in biz/first but I do recall them in economy.

When the time comes I'll be flying mini TTR in biz

 

[Natalie_B]

Maybe airlines should remove the flat beds from J and install desks and ergonomic chairs. Imagine all the extra work that "business" people could complete on their way to conduct more business. Probably need to be breath tested before turning up to "work" so access to the lounge probably needs to be removed and the cabin kept dry. That's what I'd expect from a workplace

I've flown with Child #1 in J and hope to get the chance to take child #2. I work hard to keep him entertained. My carryon bag usually contains nothing for me.

 

[Quickstatus]

ahhh.. now for some peace and quiet.....

 

[Maca44]

Why is it called business class then ????
i actually find it rude that a 4 month crying baby is allowed in business class, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
One of the reasons many of us pay for business and sometimes first is for the peace i expect.

I believe it's a class of cabin, not a class of the passenger. I have been lucky enough to have flown J for the past 14 years (F on four occasions), but always for pleasure and not as a 'business' passenger.
Perhaps they should rename them front, middle and back cabins.

If a pax, irrespective of age pays (or uses awards) for a J class seat then where is the issue. Children require either controlling or comforting, and that is the job of the parent. I suspect most people on this forum who fly J regularly would have experienced an upset child, but I also suspect this would be a rare occasion. Also, those of us who are parents understand the problems associated with flying with kids, and would have sympathy for parents when they are unable (not for the lack of trying) to settle them on flights.

 

[PineappleSkip]

?.. response can be unpredictable. Phenergan, for example...

My response to that stuff is predictable. It knocks me bandy X)

 

[Pushka]

There was a screaming child the whole way from Syd-Adl yesterday. I have no idea if the mum was trying to settle. I couldn't hear her voice and I couldn't see her. Think they must have been in around row 5 as it was still loud in J. I think even the crew were getting weary. But to top it off mum and child then tried to use the J bathroom. As meal service wasn't on they were sent to the rear. So glad that infant wasn't in J. The infants age meant there would not have been a paid for seat. In J, does an under 2 pay for the seat?

 

[Quickstatus]

I believe lap babies under 2 don't have to buy a seat - just 10% of fare. I think.

I one sat next to a pax with a lap baby AC34. Yes that's right all the way to YVR!!. Flight was full bassinet full of lucky babies.

 

[Edge]

Traveled from Melbourne to Europe return in J with a 14-month old a couple of months ago. Even in J it was fairly hard work for us - she's active and too big to fit in the bassinet. But there was no crying and she had no impact on the other pax.

It was funny to see the other pax look at us with trepidation on boarding and then actually forgetting there was an infant in the cabin when it came time to disembark.

The EK staff on board were incredibly helpful, QF staff not so much.