Japan Airlines plane in flames at Tokyo's Haneda airport

[AIRwin]

Don’t air traffic control get some form of alert on screens for an impending collision?

Depends what ASMGCS service they have?

 

[AIRwin]

QF59 entered a holding pattern 350kms south of Tokyo.

SQ (coincidentally also an A359) is diverting to NRT:

 

[Seat0B]

What a distressing event for all involved.

 

[Himeno]

SQ (coincidentally also an A359) is diverting to NRT:
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It looks like QF59 is now heading in that direction. Still says HND though.

NRT has to find space for ~30 inbound long haul flights bound for HND.
Then there's the ~100 night slots flights due to arrive at HND between 10pm and 6am, when NRT is meant to be closed for much of that time.
Many of those flights would have departed for HND long before the airport was closed.

 

[Quickstatus]

Any flights diverting to other than NRT?

 

[antycbr]

It looks like QF59 is now heading in that direction. Still says HND though.

NRT has to find space for ~30 inbound long haul flights bound for HND.
Then there's the ~100 night slots flights due to arrive at HND between 10pm and 6am, when NRT is meant to be closed for much of that time.
Many of those flights would have departed for HND long before the airport was closed.

There are other options for diversions though - even in Japan you have CTS, KIX, NGO plus undoubtedly more.

 

[jb747]

It seems someone in the tower will get in heaps of trouble over this. Possibly cleared JL to land while the dash 8 was preparing to depart.
someone might need to go over the ATC records and see what the aircraft involved were cleared for.

Don't jump to conclusions.

QF59 and NH890 are due into HND from SYD shortly. no sign they've been diverted (yet).

I'd expect them to end up at Narita.

I believe they wouldn’t be able to accept any new aircraft until the firefighters have been stood down. Effectively they wouldn’t be able to respond to another incident therefore aircraft have to divert until it’s resolved - despite having other runways available.

We landed at Dubai about 18 hours after the accident there. We were one of the earliest arrivals.

 

[N860CR]

Interesting to note that QF and NH just departed SYD for HND. I know it’s 10ish hours until they arrive, but I’m surprised they’d bother dispatching to a known closed airport.

 

[Hvr]

Any flights diverting to other than NRT?

Five dead after Japan Airlines jet collides with coast guard plane at Haneda Airport

All 379 people on board the JAL plane evacuated safely but five of the six people on the coast guard plane died, with the captain sustaining serious injuries.

www.japantimes.co.jp

All of Haneda’s runways were shut down at around 6 p.m. Flights were being diverted to airports across the country, including Narita Airport in Chiba Prefecture, Chubu Centrair Airport near Nagoya and Kansai Airport in Osaka Prefecture, according to the Flightradar24 app.

 

[Himeno]

Any flights diverting to other than NRT?

Most have gone to NRT.
Some from China have gone to KIX.
A couple of evening flights from Korea have cancelled.

 

[Quickstatus]

Steep

 

[jb747]

Video from Starboard side post-evac.

Interesting picture. Main gear intact, but damage to the centre body of the fuselage.

I'm interested just how quickly they decided that the doors 2 & 3 were unsafe to open.

Look out the window. Flame. Door unsafe. Done. Good call too.

Don’t air traffic control get some form of alert on screens for an impending collision?

Not everywhere.

I'd imagine the pilots on the JL would be able to see the plane and go around if they entered sooner.

A small aircraft on the runway is effectively invisible. They just disappear amongst all of the lights. I wouldn't expect the pilots of the 350 to have seen anything that they'd recognise as an aircraft until only a couple of seconds prior to impact. They'd already be in the flare, engines would have been pulled to idle, so a go-around would not be possible in the time available.

A bit of a size comparison for context. The distance from the centre of one engine to the other on the 350, is only very slightly less than the entire wingspan of the Dash.

 

[justinbrett]

Interesting to note that QF and NH just departed SYD for HND. I know it’s 10ish hours until they arrive, but I’m surprised they’d bother dispatching to a known closed airport.

NOTAM expires in less than an hour (no doubt it will be extended)

 

[antycbr]

NOTAM expires in less than an hour (no doubt it will be extended)

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Disabled is an understatement.

 

[Himeno]

JL22 turned around and went back to PEK.
JL26 returned to HKG

Looks like the international flights headed for HND with less then 6 hours flight time either cancelled, returned or went to KIX. Longer flights appear to have gone to NRT.


QF59 is about to land at NRT.

 

[kpc]

Qf59 about to land in Nrt...what would hsppen to Qf60 the return flight?..the pax and crew would be at Hnd....not that close by....or had they bussed everyone to Nrt earlier?!

 

[justinbrett]

QF56 is on final at NRT

Steep

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The ones at the front were very shallow and they’re saying that slowed down the evacuation.

 

[N860CR]

Have a colleague at HND now waiting for the return to SYD. No plan at this stage.

 

[AIRwin]

QF59 flight status update notification 3 minutes ago:

 

[Quickstatus]

Inlet cowl dent and missing rear cowlings