Lion Air crash in Bali?

[docjames]

Previously on my don't fly list.

Still on my don't fly list.

Glad pax and crew (apparently) all ok.

 

[Mal]

If they aren't on the EU no fly list... surely they will be there soon.

 

[whatmeworry]

If they aren't on the EU no fly list... surely they will be there soon.

They couldn't get into IATA because of safety concerns... They don't even fly to Europe and after this probably will not for a very long time...

I don't know much about the Airline but when wikipedia mentions in the first couple of paragraphs that their pilots have been caught with Crystal Meth... It just makes me wonder how they got the money to buy so many planes in such a short time.

Up to 45 injured but thankfully no fatalities.

Lion Air plane skids into sea in Bali; 45 injured

 

[Mal]

Well it appears they are already banned in EU airspace.

Yet another airline with culture and management issues. People moan and groan about qantas, but at least they aren't planting planes in the sea rather than the landing strip...

 

[N860CR]

Entertains me that a number of media sources, including Sky News, announced that the plane was operating from London.

Surely at least one person in these media offices would know that a 737 doesn't fly half way across the world. Disgusts me how little research is done into reporting these days.

 

[Foreigner]

From reports the plane was a 737-800 registered as PK-LKS and was delivered 2 months. It flew for a month under Malindo Air before being returned to its parent Lion air. A domestic flight from Bandung to DPS.

It's first flight was just over two months ago, early Feb. Lion Air began operations just over two weeks, end Mar.

http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/pk-lks-b737-8gp-lion-air-first-flight.html

http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Boeing/737/38728,9M-LNB-Malindo-Air.php

 

[NM]

I can only assume that their insurance costs must be increasing rapidly. Its one thing buying a lot of new aircraft, but the insurance costs may exceed the lease costs soon.

 

[Pushka]

Maybe they ran out of fuel?

 

[markis10]

Interesting to see the wingtip damage which is odd. The airline recently had four pilots sacked for being crystal meth users, they have intentions of expanding to Australia but doubt they will be allowed.

 

[cirqueboy]

A first serious look seems to show the transponder readings have the aircraft 171 feet higher than it's actual altitude.

This thread will be an interesting one to follow for further updates:

Accident: Lionair B738 at Denpasar on Apr 13th 2013, landed short of runway and came to stop in sea

 

[Flying Fox]

Glad that everyone is OK.

Well I guess that they will need everyone of the 200+ Boeing airframes that they have on order!

 

[Foreigner]

Lion Air
Lie on Air
Lay On Air
Lay On Water
Lie on Water
Lion Water

Loin Air?

.....

 

[Toddkurnski]

I guess they wanted to go straight to the beach for a swim. Pilots took it literally.

 

[samh004]

Maybe they ran out of fuel?

Despite the fact they're sat in water (so there shouldn't be a flame), I did wonder the same.

 

[mannej]

Despite the fact they're sat in water (so there shouldn't be a flame), I did wonder the same.

I would disagree on that no water means no flame - get enough of an energy source on the water and they may well be fire

 

[MarkD]

All i will say is www.eaglejet.com. Captain experoenced How many hrs in FO Book? Pilots paying to fly this baby ?

 

[Foreigner]

Following this incident, concern has been expressed about safety at Wellington Airport, NZ:

Wellington 'not a good example of a safe airport' - One News | TVNZ

 

[Happy Trails]

It seems to have broken into just two pieces this time, rather than the usual three.

 

[AVC]

People moan and groan about qantas, but at least they aren't planting planes in the sea rather than the landing strip...

Sometimes the grass though!

Despite the fact they're sat in water (so there shouldn't be a flame), I did wonder the same.

Fuel is lighter than water. Ergo, fuel will float on top of the water, and burn.

I recall my FB friend telling me how the RFS bought an old fuel tanker to use as a bulk water supply for fire fighting. Well, you imagine how that ended up.

 

[samh004]

Following this incident, concern has been expressed about safety at Wellington Airport, NZ:

Wellington 'not a good example of a safe airport' - One News | TVNZ

There are many airports with water at either end of the runway, so it's a strange comment. Especially as they recently passed their safety inspection too!