Lisbon - Great Capital.

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We were in Lisbon in July and loved it. Try to stay close to the water where you can get hop on hop offs or whatever. Have a coughtail near the ocean but be sure to catch a tuk tuk or tram up to Alfama for the spectacular views and local markets/shopping.

If you look around you can find a decent restaurant if you want a break from street food.

If it fits Porto is a must and is not far by train. Great times can be had on the river visiting markets and restaurants. Highly recommend a visit to Porto Calem for a tour of the winery on the other side of the river.
 
Those who spent time in Lisbon and Porto. How did you travel between the two cities?
 
Train for us. A pleasant 2.5 hour trip. Go 1st class if you can. Not much more but you get better storage and seats.
 
Those who spent time in Lisbon and Porto. How did you travel between the two cities?
We hired a car in Lisbon (airport) and travelled up the coast to Porto & then a little north to Esposende. We stayed in a timeshare there.
We dropped the car off at Porto airport at the end of our Portuguese trip.

Cheers
 
We hired a car in Lisbon (airport) and travelled up the coast to Porto & then a little north to Esposende. We stayed in a timeshare there.
We dropped the car off at Porto airport at the end of our Portuguese trip.

Cheers
Thankyou, sounds lovely.
 
Spent some time in Lisbon last year, I agree with others, great city. Sintra is definitely a must do day trip when you are there too. Mrs and I flew into Lisbon with our mountain bikes and rode the Portuguese Camino from Lisbon up through Coimbra and Porto and along the coastal route to Santiago de Compostela. Really great way to see a lot of Portugal (and a bit of Galicia), nice quiet back roads and villages apart from the couple of cities
 
I spent 2 weeks in year for Lisbon for Eurovision last year, loved it. I know 2 separate groups of people that have been robbed at the Air BnBs there. Similar situations as well, stayed there for a week or more and was robbed on their second last days. Left things like passports etc.
That's why I never use AirBnBs.

People will eventually take note of the fact that the properties are AirBnBs, or just look them up on sites.

And there is no front desk between one's possessions and criminals.
Regards,
Renato
 
thanks for the recommendations, currently in the early stages of planning a trip to Lisbon next year, hoping to finally cash in my stash of VA points and spend a month in Europe.

i was looking at 7 or 8 nights in Lisbon, would anyone recommend splitting that up and staying somewhere else like Porto? or recommend just soaking up everything Lisbon has to offer?
I always buy a DK Top 10 book of any capital I'm visiting to get an idea of what's of interest and how much time I'm likely to expend. Though for Lisbon, one would get museumed out pretty quick if following all their suggestions.

I find their suggested itineraries for two and four days visits pretty much impossible to achieve unless one is an athlete.

There is the Lisbon card which pays for public transport and entry into sites. Very good value if one has the stamina to see everything listed for the card. Poor value for the very leisurely travellers that we now are.
Regards,
Renato
 
We drove from Lisbon to Porto, stopping at Caiscais, Cabo da Roca, Sintra, Obidos, Peniche and Coimbra. From Porto, we did a day tour to the Duoro Valley for wine tasting. On the way back, we stopped at Fatima and Evora...sensational road trip even though we got pinged for some unpaid road tolls 3 years later! On a subsequent trip to Lisbon, we bussed it to Lagos in the Algarve and back, and then flew to Ponta Delgada in the Azores from Lisbon where we drove around San Miguel Island for a few days. :). My +1 said she could live in Lisbon...
 
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My wife and I have been visiting capital cities for the last 14 years, and quite frankly, I had lost the buzz I used to get for the last six years.

But I don't know why, but I got the buzz back in Lisbon. Lots of monuments and other sites to see, pretty happy looking people, and reasonable non rip-off prices in places where anywhere else, I would have expected them.

We thoroughly enjoyed our nine days there. Getting rechargeable Metro cards was easy, since they had an English option, and the cards could be used on Metro trains, buses and trams. Prices using the card on say tourist trams, were considerably cheaper than buying a one off ticket for the ride.

What we liked most was that that feeling of being under seige, with targets on our back - like we get in Rome and Madrid - was totally missing in Lisbon. We kept being warned about pick pockets, especially when boarding trams, but we never saw anything untoward compared to our experiences in other places.

The most dangerous thing about Lisbon is the smooth cobblestones which are present everywhere. First thing I had to do when we walked a few hundred meters down to the shops, was to spend 70 euros on walking shoes with good grip for my wife. She had been wearing runners, which proved totally inadequate, and she had nearly slid over about ten times (I'd nearly slid over twice). Apparently, these smooth cobblestones are a problem mainly in summer.

On a positive note, my wife decided that Portuguese shoes were better than Italian shoes, and bought several more pairs. Result - I had to pay 45 euros in excess baggage for them and other purchases.

One strategy we adopted in Lisbon, was to always walk downwards. Eventually we'd find a Metro to take us back up the hills.

We had one pleasant surprise one day. We had made our way to Monisteros Jeronimos in Belem, only to find it closed because it was a Monday. Cost would have been 10 Euros each to get in. So we decided to have a look at the Maritime Museum next door, where we got in for half prices being seniors. After that we had a tasty meal at the cafe and headed back to the tram stop at 6pm - only to find the Jeronimos monestary now open - and free!

They really love their Portuguese tarts over there, and on the hotel staff's recommendation, I bought some from the shop in Belem where there is a 20 minute queue to buy them nice and hot. Yes, they were very nice hot, but I didn't have the heart to tell them I actually liked them more next day cold out of the fridge.

To sum up, we've unhesitatingly been recommending Lisbon to all our travelling/sight seeing type friends. We aren't night-life types, so can't comment.
Regards,
Renato

P.S. I checked out perfume prices in Sephora and Douglas stores at the Vasco de Gama shopping centre. Prices were about 10 percent higher than in Italy, which in turn are heaps higher than what they can be bought for at Chemist Warehouses back in Australia. It never ceases to amaze me that Calvin Klein, Issey Miyake, Abercrombie and Fitch and numerous other scents for which we pay $30 to $40 for, sell for anywhere between 70 to 90 Euros in Lisbon, and 60 to 80 or so euros in Italy.

If you want to smell really wealthy in Lisbon, stock up in Australia.
Yep, I love Lisbon, too. Get to a home match for Benfica if you can -- the atmosphere is overwhelming; and Lisbon also means fado (just be ready to start your evening out around midnight). If you're staying in Porto, try to get accommodation on the river, for the atmosphere and ease of transport.
 
Yep, I love Lisbon, too. Get to a home match for Benfica if you can -- the atmosphere is overwhelming; and Lisbon also means fado (just be ready to start your evening out around midnight). If you're staying in Porto, try to get accommodation on the river, for the atmosphere and ease of transport.
Thanks. Yes we noticed people seem to eat very late around there. But we missed out on that. Despite the huge breakfast at the hotel, then lunch during the day - our routine always left us starving by 6 or 7pm.

I had thought I was overeating in Lisbon, but when I got to Italy, I found I'd lost 4kg since leaving home. Doing touristy things seems to pump up metabolism for me.
Cheers,
Renato
 
Those who spent time in Lisbon and Porto. How did you travel between the two cities?

Hire a car and enjoy the drive - plenty of nice spots to stop by on the way. I can recommend Obidos in particular.

Once you're in Porto a drive to Viana do Castelo is also enjoyable.
 
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