Lounge entry under Oneworld with different Frequent Flyer on Pass

[dandandan]

Does anyone know if I add my VA Plat number to a QR ticket, if I can still access the QF First lounge with my QF Plat card?

 

[opusman]

Yes as long as the QR ticket has a QR flight number, access is based on your QFF membership tier, not the program you're crediting to.

 

[dandandan]

Awesome, thank you.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

You may want to have the Qantas app or your Qantas Frequent Flyer card handy as the lounge agent may ask you to present the card to prove you have status to enter the lounge.

-RooFlyer88

 

[SYD]

You may want to have the Qantas app or your Qantas Frequent Flyer card handy as the lounge agent may ask you to present the card to prove you have status to enter the lounge.

-RooFlyer88

Not “may”, they will ask to see it if it’s not on the BP.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Not “may”, they will ask to see it if it’s not on the BP.

Depends on the attitude of the agent. I've seen some that just wave people through (especially if they are regulars). But yes, the key thing is having that card at hand so that if challenged you can show you are eligible to access.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Depends on the attitude of the agent. I've seen some that just wave people through (especially if they are regulars). But yes, the key thing is having that card at hand so that if challenged you can show you are eligible to access.

No it doesn’t depend on the attitude of the agent.
To enter a QF international lounge the boarding pass is scanned.
It will not recognize a VA number for lounge access.

 

[opusman]

Nice to see AFF still follows the "why have 2 posts in a thread when 7 will do" rule

 

[justinbrett]

The boarding pass will say no. You're then at QF's mercy.

A slightly old thread but this indicates no if you're not prepared to credit to QF:

Changing oneworld crediting FF program mid ticket no longer allowed?

No problem. Just a pity that there is no simple way to look at the BP and check whether the agent has got things the way you want.

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

 

[kangarooflyer88]

The boarding pass will say no. You're then at QF's mercy.

A slightly old thread but this indicates no if you're not prepared to credit to QF:

Changing oneworld crediting FF program mid ticket no longer allowed?

No problem. Just a pity that there is no simple way to look at the BP and check whether the agent has got things the way you want.

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

Hypothetical question, and I don't know the OneWorld answer to this, but is it possible to check-in providing your QFF details (that does have status) then switch it back to the FFP you want it to credit to (i.e. after you're in the lounge)?

 

[Princess Fiona]

Hypothetical question, and I don't know the OneWorld answer to this, but is it possible to check-in providing your QFF details (that does have status) then switch it back to the FFP you want it to credit to (i.e. after you're in the lounge)?

Yes it is

 

[Princess Fiona]

Nice to see AFF still follows the "why have 2 posts in a thread when 7 will do" rule

It’s inevitable really when some of the replies are giving incorrect info.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

It’s inevitable really when some of the replies are giving incorrect info.

I wouldn't say incorrect info so much as incomplete info. Many take it for granted that they would have their QFF card on hand when accessing a lounge, just in case they are asked. But having been to a number of lounges and seeing the denials because they could not produce a card (and in the case of LH Group not produce a physical card) we shouldn't take it for granted!

Yes it is

How does one switch it back afterwards? Do you do that on the app/RJ website, at the gate?

 

[Princess Fiona]

How does one switch it back afterwards? Do you do that on the app/RJ website, at the gate?

My TA does it for me if I need that service.

 

[dandandan]

My QF and Velocity physical cards I always take on international trips just in case required, albeit I will have roaming on, however also just in case I have issues bringing up the digital card on my phone. I also recently reordered my physical card for my September o/s trip, as I noticed the version I had expired on 30 June 2023, in line with membership year and Qantas doesn't automatically resend you one like Velocity, so I should have the physical card issue covered off.

I have requalified for both QF and VA platinum, however the points earn on Velocity with Qatar is superior than Qantas and I had also registered for double velocity points promo with Qatar promo through Velocity, so my J QR SYD-MXP, BCN-SYD will earn ~95,000 points which is far superior than the earn through crediting to Qantas. If it was a few thousand difference, I wouldn't worry, however it's a big difference even without the promo and the earn through Velocity is equivalent to a one way J reward into the US.

Just on changing the frequent flyer on the booking after checking in, on my September trip, my original return booked flight was cancelled and I was rebooked onto a QF flight. It was only after checking in, did I notice I didn't have my QF number on the ticket so I rang Qantas to ask and they said the frequent flyer number couldn't be changed after checking in.

The other interesting thing is, if Qantas didn't accept me into the lounge because my VA number was on the ticket, I wouldn't have any lounge access in Sydney then! I suppose I could use the Amex lounge.

 

[Princess Fiona]

My QF and Velocity physical cards I always take on international trips just in case required, albeit I will have roaming on, however also just in case I have issues bringing up the digital card on my phone. I also recently reordered my physical card for my September o/s trip, as I noticed the version I had expired on 30 June 2023, in line with membership year and Qantas doesn't automatically resend you one like Velocity, so I should have the physical card issue covered off.

I have requalified for both QF and VA platinum, however the points earn on Velocity with Qatar is superior than Qantas and I had also registered for double velocity points promo with Qatar promo through Velocity, so my J QR SYD-MXP, BCN-SYD will earn ~95,000 points which is far superior than the earn through crediting to Qantas. If it was a few thousand difference, I wouldn't worry, however it's a big difference even without the promo and the earn through Velocity is equivalent to a one way J reward into the US.

Just on changing the frequent flyer on the booking after checking in, on my September trip, my original return booked flight was cancelled and I was rebooked onto a QF flight. It was only after checking in, did I notice I didn't have my QF number on the ticket so I rang Qantas to ask and they said the frequent flyer number couldn't be changed after checking in.

The other interesting thing is, if Qantas didn't accept me into the lounge because my VA number was on the ticket, I wouldn't have any lounge access in Sydney then! I suppose I could use the Amex lounge.

QF are wrong.
It’s definitely possible to change FF numbers / programs after check-in.

 

[dandandan]

My QF and Velocity physical cards I always take on international trips just in case required, albeit I will have roaming on, however also just in case I have issues bringing up the digital card on my phone. I also recently reordered my physical card for my September o/s trip, as I noticed the version I had expired on 30 June 2023, in line with membership year and Qantas doesn't automatically resend you one like Velocity, so I should have the physical card issue covered off.

I have requalified for both QF and VA platinum, however the points earn on Velocity with Qatar is superior than Qantas and I had also registered for double velocity points promo with Qatar promo through Velocity, so my J QR SYD-MXP, BCN-SYD will earn ~95,000 points which is far superior than the earn through crediting to Qantas. If it was a few thousand difference, I wouldn't worry, however it's a big difference even without the promo and the earn through Velocity is equivalent to a one way J reward into the US.

Just on changing the frequent flyer on the booking after checking in, on my September trip, my original return booked flight was cancelled and I was rebooked onto a QF flight. It was only after checking in, did I notice I didn't have my QF number on the ticket so I rang Qantas to ask and they said the frequent flyer number couldn't be changed after checking in.

The other interesting thing is, if Qantas didn't accept me into the lounge because my VA number was on the ticket, I wouldn't have any lounge access in Sydney then! I suppose I could use the Amex lounge.

Onewrold does say this:

You must be prepared to show your boarding pass and frequent flyer membership card, with oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier status, to access a lounge.

 

[dandandan]

QF are wrong.
It’s definitely possible to change FF numbers / programs after check-in.

Maybe this is this safest bet then.

 

[dandandan]

The boarding pass will say no. You're then at QF's mercy.

A slightly old thread but this indicates no if you're not prepared to credit to QF:

Changing oneworld crediting FF program mid ticket no longer allowed?

No problem. Just a pity that there is no simple way to look at the BP and check whether the agent has got things the way you want.

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

Thanks for the link, good info there.

 

[justinbrett]

It’s pretty understandable that QF won’t lift a finger to help you credit to VA - and vice versa (eg VA won’t enter your QF number on their reward ticket, you have to do it yourself on QR’s website).

Just a function of the weird situation of QF’s alliance partner having an alliance with their competitor.

It’s good for passengers though who can play both sides. I recently benefited from QF status on my VA booked QR reward flight.