LTP - Lifetime Platinum

[dajop]

Or, another alternative, enrole into LAN's FFP. The benefits are even better than AA.

Of course to take advantage of these benefits, you've got to fly the home airline a lot, no good having these if you mainly fly QF....


Once past lifetime gold my suggestion is to get the minimum 1200 sc's to maintain QF WP, and if you're flying patterns allow go for star gold as well. Status in two alliances brings great flexibility....

 

[Bundy Bear]

Okay, I know that LTP does not exist within the QFF program - as yet.

I have just passed 21000 LT SC's and it got me to thinking, if QFF had or were to have a LTP product would it kick in at 21000, 28000 or another number of SC's.


So what are your thoughts?

Start crediting flights to AA frequent flyer program

Absolutely

I cannot imagine QF offering a Lifetime Platinum award since it would give maximum benefits to the member even if they drop to 1 flight every few years and zero incentive to credit anything to QF

LTP would be nice, but Im more than happy with LTG and no longer have any incentive to use QF for anything other than domestic flights and just pick international services based on quality of airline

Dave

What those 2 said; start crediting to AA.

Living overseas, i mainly keep my WP status for use on other OW airlines.. Only have 2,000 SC's to go till LTG, then im gonna be putting it all to AA.. QFF would never be so nice to its most loyal customers.. Has anyone seen Up in the Air with George Clooney ?

All of us; the only exception is Serfty.

8 systemwide upgrades per annum as an Executive Platinum member

Dave

Indeed eight is the magic number. And each is good for up to 3 sectors. And they can be use used for anyone, not just "eligible family members". Last year I did not flown any AA segments, but used 7 of my 8 eVIPS for work colleagues, fellow AFF members and friends of friends. While not being able to use them myself, I have been able to use them . All perfectly within the standard terms and conditions for eVIPs.

If anyone has any spare AA system wide upgrades; I am interested.

The main (only ??) thing that has kept me crediting to QF is the PG. Is this a good reason who knows, but SWMBO thinks it is.

I think Qantas knows this. which saves a lot of high frequent flyer people going over to AA or Star Alliance.

 

[serfty]

I'm on ~18K LTSC's - [yes, I do keep a spreadsheet with a running tally (using the loyalty bonus SC count as a checksum), although it does show on my snail mail statement].

PG is my annual target, however if SWMBO's travel keeps increasing and SG in her own right become a reality then of course this will change.

Other than that *G (currently via AirNZ) is my other aim.

 

[samh004]

Hi everyone,

LTP does exist - a colleague of mine has a platinum FF card with no expiry. :shock:

Of course, I asked him how he achieved this (and what was the catch):

• No more accumulation of SC - his FF summary page states "-"

At least that point makes a little sense, as one you’d definitely have no need for it (unless your thinking PG wasn’t included), but 2, every 450SC you’d get a bonus that’s perhaps overkill when you’re at the top.

 

[simongr]

I am not sure about crediting to AA once you hit LTG unless you credit only those flights after achieving WP each year.

My future forecast of travel is pretty vague so I am back to crediting to QFF to retain WP as I wont fly enough to get AA EXP again (well actually I might this year).

It is all very tricky to work out what is the optimum posting process...

 

[straitman]

All of us; the only exception is Serfty.

I have not seen the movie either.

Re LTP I am not worried as as it is something I am unlikely to ever achieve.

 

[Reggie]

How do you know your LT SC's? do you log them every year, or is this info available on the website? I lost interest once I'd received LTG.

The paper monthly statements still show LT SC's. If it didn't, yes I would probably track it year by year on my anniversary.

 

[JohnK]

I think Lifetime Platinum would be a good idea and in my opinion 28,000 SCs would be a fair target. Still haven't made Lifetime Silver so a long way to go.

Start crediting flights to AA frequent flyer program

Why? Many people do not care about earn/burn rates but would rather have Oneworld Emerald status instead.

Just because someone can attain Qantas Platinum or even Partner Gold relatively easily does not mean they would even come close to attaining AA Executive Platinum.

 

[NM]

Just because someone can attain Qantas Platinum or even Partner Gold relatively easily does not mean they would even come close to attaining AA Executive Platinum.

That can work the other way too. Last year I would have made QF Gold but been well short of Platinum. I made AA EXP easily. It all depends on the flying patterns and will be different for each person. My patterns happen to be very much suited to earning status through AAdvantage but would be as inefficient as it gets for earning on QFF (lots of international B fares).

But I would suggest anyone earning 2100 SCs in a year would make Emerald status on either program.

Even if Lifetime Platinum existed, I don't think I would have hung around after attaining Lifetime Gold. The thought of only being 50% of the way there and another 5-10 years to get to Lifetime Platinum would not have attracted me. With the same flying required to make another 14,000 SCs I expect AA Lifetime Platinum would have been achieved. Lifetime Sapphire in two programs has some attraction as well, though difficult to judge relative to Lifetime Emerald in one program.

However, I cannot see Qantas (or AA for that matter) offering a published Lifetime Emerald status.

Each to their own.

 

[oz_mark]

I would have thought that if there were such a level, it would kick in at 28000. Having said that, why would they offer such a thing?

 

[yeldarb8]

I'm LTP with AAdvantage and I don't post to QFF because they don't have an equivalent status (and besides, I don't need it now anyway). On the VERY RARE occasion I have flown on QF metal it's on AA ticket stock with an AA flight number so I don't even have to worry about those goofy QF -> AA mileage conversion rates. To each his own... Those system wide upgrades on AA are very useful and so are the zero change fees on award bookings under most circumstances. Not to mention the added benefit of BusinessExtrAA as I'm a business owner.

 

[JohnK]

I'm LTP with AAdvantage and I don't post to QFF because they don't have an equivalent status (and besides, I don't need it now anyway).

Actually QF Lifetime Gold is the same as AA Lifetime Platinum!

Also QF has an unofficial Lifetime Platinum status which is Lifetime Oneworld Emerald and mich better than AA Lifetime Platinum.

 

[yeldarb8]

Actually QF Lifetime Gold is the same as AA Lifetime Platinum!

Also QF has an unofficial Lifetime Platinum status which is Lifetime Oneworld Emerald and mich better than AA Lifetime Platinum.

Yes, of course you are correct on point one. My mistake. But the differences between the two programs become quite manifest when you redeem points for award flights. QFF can't match AA on those fees and conditions. As for earning miles, I can accrue lifetime status credits just by spending $ on my credit card without stepping on a flight... QF can't match that either.

As for point two, that's a matter of folklore, as is AAdvantage Lifetime Executive Platinum... an unpublished benefit that if it exists only those who have it know about it. I have seen zero actual proof that either exists.

 

[simongr]

The challenge earning liftetime status on AA for Oz based fliers is that there is not a good credit card way of getting those points to AA - only Diners has direct transfer and AA indirect through SPG (which is at a poor rate).

Also for my personal conditions (regular but not that frequent trips to MEL and 2 - 3 int'l trips per year) it is easy to maintain WP but impossible to achieve EXP (I could have done last year but I did not foresee the level of flying I actually undertook).

Having had two RTW trips on AA points I am now in a phase where status is more important than awards as even crediting to AA I wouldnt be racking up that many miles for major awards (which increase cost now due to toddlergr).

One interesting problem with AA is that you have to pay 10% of full fare for infants if travelling with you on an aaward flight - quite a costly endeavour when flying in J/F...

 

[markis10]

As for earning miles, I can accrue lifetime status credits just by spending $ on my credit card without stepping on a flight... QF can't match that either.

Its an academic question (as I doubt too many are in the position) but what would be the point of having status on an airlines frequent flyer program if you dont fly? I think its a good thing that actual flying is required to reach the status levels with QF, there are plenty of frequent spender programs for those wishing to get a better return on their card spending than airline status for infrequent flights.

 

[yeldarb8]

Its an academic question (as I doubt too many are in the position) but what would be the point of having status on an airlines frequent flyer program if you dont fly? I think its a good thing that actual flying is required to reach the status levels with QF, there are plenty of frequent spender programs for those wishing to get a better return on their card spending than airline status for infrequent flights.

Think you missed the point... I can earn lifetime status credit on AA even when I am NOT flying... why WOULDN'T anyone want that benefit? Of course I get to enjoy that benefit every time I fly... and I fly all the time. The point is on QFF I only earn lifetime credit WHEN I fly.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Think you missed the point... I can earn lifetime status credit on AA even when I am NOT flying... why WOULDN'T anyone want that benefit? Of course I get to enjoy that benefit every time I fly... and I fly all the time. The point is on QFF I only earn lifetime credit WHEN I fly.

Since they are "frequent flyer programs', one would think that flying would somehow be a contributing factor in attaining status. AA doesn't seem to think so. You could run a Business CC through the AA scheme and get AA OW Lifetime Sapphire without ever setting foot on a plane. I find that, somewhat delusional.

 

[serfty]

That's that's way the AAdvantage program works, even though the benefit is not publicly documented.

I am 17% of the way to AAdvantage Lifetime Gold; of this a total of 337 AAdvantage miles came though flying (0.3%) :shock:.

More than one member of this forum is Lifetime Platinum with AAdvantage having being able to achieve the necessary 2,000,000 miles.

 

[NM]

I made AA Lifetime Gold (1MM) is way less time than it took me to get to QFF Lifetime Silver. Now I have QFF Lifetime Gold status and slowly making my way towards AA Lifetime Platinum. One benefit of AA Lifetime Platinum is the 100% bonus miles while QFF Lifetime Gold only pays 50% bonus miles. Since the day I make QFF Lifetime Gold, I have credited all except for 2 short QF domestic flights to me AA account and have maintained at least Platinum status with AA since. At least if I don't retain AA Platinum (before reaching Lifetime Platinum) I can fall back to my QFF LTG for the status-related benefits. But for me, if a flighty earns AA miles then it goes to me AA account. The 800K miles in my AA account are worth a lot more than 800K miles in my QFF account.

 

[FuzzyAUS]

G'day all,

So it says above that there are no CC's in Aus that can post direct to AA, does anyone know if any of the higher end AMEX cards do by any chance?

is it $x.00 spend for y amount of points/miles?

Cheers
Fuzz