LTP - Lifetime Platinum

[nlagalle]

G'day all,

So it says above that there are no CC's in Aus that can post direct to AA, does anyone know if any of the higher end AMEX cards do by any chance?

is it $x.00 spend for y amount of points/miles?

Cheers
Fuzz

No Amex card in Australia can transfer to AA as far as I am aware. The only one that might is the Centurion.

 

[FuzzyAUS]

Im doing some searching and googling at the moment.. i have approx 1.2m MR points at the moment so would be good if i could put them to some use (other than QFF which i do post some to from time to time when i have spent all the QFF points on JASA's)

 

[aus_flyer]

only Diners has direct transfer [to AA]

Really? Do they?

 

[serfty]

Really? Do they?

Yes, if you can the points to post in the first place. :-|

• http://www.australianfrequentflyer....b-rewards/diners-club-web-problems-18440.html

 

[Reggie]

Actually QF Lifetime Gold is the same as AA Lifetime Platinum!

Also QF has an unofficial Lifetime Platinum status which is Lifetime Oneworld Emerald and mich better than AA Lifetime Platinum.

Can you tell us/me more? Is there a link to a thread on AFF that I missed?

 

[docjames]

I'm sorry but i'm a skeptic as to the existence, official or unofficial, of QF LTP.

 

[PaulC83]

I'm sorry but i'm a skeptic as to the existence, official or unofficial, of QF LTP.

I think BossReggie gave a bit more information about this in another thread, but I am sure it does exist, however it is a level that "if you have to ask, you can't afford it".

I am sure Qantas look after high profile/high spend customers at a level that doesn't require published benefits or a specific title, they simply just do it as a matter of course, and if you are at a level for that treatment I am sure you probably don't care what it is called or how you got it, just that you get the 5* treatment.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

I'm sorry but i'm a skeptic as to the existence, official or unofficial, of QF LTP.

There have been reports on AFF with people who have heard through the grapevine in regards to LTP status. I myself haven't 'seen with my own eyes' proof, but have heard QF staff say along the lines of; 20/28 k SC = LTP.

One poster on AFF said that their company negotiated a massive exclusive travel deal with QF and part of that included a certain number of CL + LTP issued to them. Another said that their friend had LTP, logged in to show them and there was no expiry date next to his WP status.

l'm also pretty sure that some CL's would be CL for life, ie, ex PM or celebs like Kylie/Hugh Jackman.

Maybe QF need something like Lufthansa's HON Circle or Asian carriers (like Asiana), a higher level that is achievable. There have also been reports of this level, but not officially, in between WP+PG and CL. Couple of perks, but nothing major, or so l have heard. I know of a few that are on this level.

PaulC83 - asking about it doesn't mean that you can't afford it. That cliché went out the door a long time ago. A cliché example; a CEO asking about QF Chairmans status or BA Premier status or AMEX Centurion, doesn't necessarily mean that they can't afford it.

 

[Reggie]

I think BossReggie gave a bit more information about this in another thread, but I am sure it does exist, however it is a level that "if you have to ask, you can't afford it".

My recollection was BossReggie was given CL, not LTP or LTOWE

I am sure Qantas look after high profile/high spend customers at a level that doesn't require published benefits or a specific title, they simply just do it as a matter of course, and if you are at a level for that treatment I am sure you probably don't care what it is called or how you got it, just that you get the 5* treatment.

From my perspective Qantas don't seem to have anything for customers between WP+PG+LTG and CL. This is why people like BossReggie, myself and others have or are revaluing our loyalty to QF.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

From my perspective Qantas don't seem to have anything for customers between WP+PG+LTG and CL. This is why people like BossReggie, myself and others have or are revaluing our loyalty to QF.

Good point.
If you travel frequently and in J or F, it is very easy to reach WP. Doing it down the back on Red eDeals is in another ball pack altogether. QF could introduce a SQ PPS system, but then you knock out the Red eDeal WP's. I guess it's a balancing act for any airline on where to draw the lines.

 

[pauly7]

From my perspective Qantas don't seem to have anything for customers between WP+PG+LTG and CL. This is why people like BossReggie, myself and others have or are revaluing our loyalty to QF.

Think commercially though how many of these people exist. Answer = very few. I know they are important but it is human nature to want more more more... When does it stop?

My boss is CL and has a a bunch of privileges above that as well which are strictly unpublished and mostly confidential. Perhaps when you reach that level you'll get some of those and your life will be complete

 

[Reggie]

There have been reports on AFF with people who have heard through the grapevine in regards to LTP status.

I have read these posts in the past as well.

I myself haven't 'seen with my own eyes' proof, but have heard QF staff say along the lines of; 20/28 k SC = LTP.

I am in the middle of this range of LTSC's on mostly QF metal in premium, and have received no love, no ODU's, (don't even receive requested points upgrades) or anything from QF.

 

[Reggie]

Think commercially though how many of these people exist. Answer = very few. I know they are important but it is human nature to want more more more... When does it stop?

I think there is more than a very few people fall into this category. Look at those on this board alone. How many people change their flying habits after LTG, or WP, WP+LG because there is nothing else?

The question is when does it start. Look what had to happen to BossReggie before his value was recognised.

My boss is CL and has a a bunch of privileges above that as well which are strictly unpublished and mostly confidential. Perhaps when you reach that level you'll get some of those and your life will be complete

This then tells me that Qantas are able to change / add benefits for individuals members or smaller groups of loyal customers when they want/choose to. They do this at the CL level, but it appears nothing for the large gap in difference between WP and CL.

 

[JohnK]

So it says above that there are no CC's in Aus that can post direct to AA, does anyone know if any of the higher end AMEX cards do by any chance?

is it $x.00 spend for y amount of points/miles?

The answer is no direct tranfer of Australian issued Amex credit cards to AAdvantage. Only effective way is via SPG at ~60,606 Amex MR points for 25,000 AA miles.

Im doing some searching and googling at the moment.. i have approx 1.2m MR points at the moment so would be good if i could put them to some use (other than QFF which i do post some to from time to time when i have spent all the QFF points on JASA's)

With the many MR points then both SQ KrisFlyer (transfers at 1:1) and CX Asia Miles (transfers at 4:3) would be good alternatives for points transfers.

I'm sorry but i'm a skeptic as to the existence, official or unofficial, of QF LTP.

I am a skeptic as well but it make sense to have an unofficial Lifetime Platinum level.

I think there is more than a very few people fall into this category. Look at those on this board alone. How many people change their flying habits after LTG, or WP, WP+LG because there is nothing else?

It is one thing to reach Lifetime Gold at 14,000 SCs with a lot of Oneworld Travel but very difficult to get 28,000 SCs on QF travel only.

Also as it is an unofficial, unpublished, benefit there is no guarantee that you would get Lifetime Platinum at 28,000 QF only SCs anyway as it is by invitation only. Why chase an invitation only level unless you were going to do that travel anyway?

 

[samh004]

It is one thing to reach Lifetime Gold at 14,000 SCs with a lot of Oneworld Travel but very difficult to get 28,000 SCs on QF travel only.

Also as it is an unofficial, unpublished, benefit there is no guarantee that you would get Lifetime Platinum at 28,000 QF only SCs anyway as it is by invitation only. Why chase an invitation only level unless you were going to do that travel anyway?

As you say, it’s hard enough to get to LTG so I’m guessing no one could actually chase the LTP requirement, whatever it may be, as to do so would require well above the average spend and travel. You’d get there by just doing what you do. And it’d take a while, even in F

 

[Reggie]

Also as it is an unofficial, unpublished, benefit there is no guarantee that you would get Lifetime Platinum at 28,000 QF only SCs anyway as it is by invitation only. Why chase an invitation only level unless you were going to do that travel anyway?

Many people strive for membership of CL, with many posts on this board asking about how to acheive it. The fact that it is by invitation only, doesn't stop people wanting it.

Why chase an invitation only level unless you were going to do that travel anyway?

Same could be asked why chase LTS, LTG, SG, & WP unless you were going to do the travel anyway. However there are numerous threads and posts discussing status runs, and taking uneccessary routings to obtain status, you don't ask them why?

 

[Reggie]

As you say, it’s hard enough to get to LTG so I’m guessing no one could actually chase the LTP requirement, whatever it may be, as to do so would require well above the average spend and travel. You’d get there by just doing what you do. And it’d take a while, even in F

Samh004, your second last line sums it up nicely, it's something you acheive by being loyal, doing what you do. However, it would be just as easy to redirect business away to other carriers to build a relationship / status with them, which results in less business for Qantas.

 

[jakeseven7]

I think there is more than a very few people fall into this category. Look at those on this board alone. How many people change their flying habits after LTG, or WP, WP+LG because there is nothing else?

The question is when does it start. Look what had to happen to BossReggie before his value was recognised.

AFF is not representative at all of the population, sorry! My bosses are multiple WP CL pretty much highest you can go in an Aus based company - but they don't even THINK about this stuff on even the very basic level we'd expect a newbie on this board to understand. Not many people get this deep.

And Boss Reggie is just one example.

 

[JohnK]

Many people strive for membership of CL, with many posts on this board asking about how to acheive it. The fact that it is by invitation only, doesn't stop people wanting it.

Strive for CL? Unless you have political aspirations it is close to impossible.

I don't want CL, nor do I need it....

Same could be asked why chase LTS, LTG, SG, & WP unless you were going to do the travel anyway. However there are numerous threads and posts discussing status runs, and taking uneccessary routings to obtain status, you don't ask them why?

Sorry have to disagree a little.

Again I say it is a little different chasing Lifetime Silver and Lifetime Gold and not Lifetime Platinum as the bar is set too high and again there is no guarantee you will be given Lifetime Platnium anyway where as Lifetime Silver and Lifetime Gold are guaranteed once you get to that level.

There is no way the overwhelming majority would even get remotely close to earning 28,000 Lifetime SCs on QF flights only.

 

[samh004]

I don’t strive for CL, but I sure would love to have it