MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

[dajop]

The WA article quotes 5000sq km. This is 1930 odd sq miles.

So about 2.5 x the area that Port Phillip Bay takes up, or similar to the size of Bali island FWIW.

 

[whatmeworry]

So about 2.5 x the area that Port Phillip Bay takes up, or similar to the size of Bali island FWIW.

IIRC Port Phillip Bay is only about 13 metres deep on average.

 

[PLANT]

One spot is nearly 40 metres because.... I have been there, done that... Gold course

 

[bad]

Very very low news volume here. Would be good to be able to explain certain inputs with resultant change in the 777's course.

 

[Berlin]

Get the feeling they don't want to find it?

That is probably be the only thing here that is SAFE to assume!

 

[bad]

My thoughts are that the Malaysian Government is evading it’s responsiblilities. Especially after dramatic revelations from Australian transport safety Bureau in August that identifies the almost precise location of the missing jet.

The drift analysis by CSRIO dr David Griffin and Peter Oke, detailed analysis of satellite images from French military satellites by geoscience Australia have traveled a debris trail that almost certainly must be from MH-370.

Malaysians apparently have a no find no fee offer from the US exploration company Ocean Infinity which uses underwater drones to sweep the search area.

The deputy Malaysian transport minister Aziz Kaprawi has confirmed the offer but it is not known whether it’s been accepted.

239 lives lost on March the 8th 2014 .......to do nothing is unacceptable. Most credible evidence there is no logical sense not to have a look.

If Malaysians need to demonstrate to the world they have done due diligence. Its handling of the loss of MH370 has been suboptimal.

If they don’t resume the search the Chinese will question the motivation! The loss has been unprecedented in modern times. The Malaysian governments performance over the tradegdy has only fuelled conspiracy theories ( read this thread).

The reverse drift modelling work by CSIRO last year based on the debris that washed up narrowed the search area to a new area just outside the main search area. It’s about 25000sq km hence half the size of Melbourne!

Location 35.6 South 92.8 Degrees East near the seventh Arc. As defined by Inmarsat satellite data. Impossible to ignore.

China also need to contribute more cash of the 190 million so far 100 Malaysia, 70 Australia, 20 China. China’s contribution has been small. Considering it carried the codeshare airlines flight number CZ748.

My two bob!

 

[Ansett]

Malaysia to resume MH370 search: report

Lets hope that they do the right thing and continue the search and finally locate and discover more of what happened and provide answers to those left behind.

 

[Strategic Aviation]

Malaysian government accepts “no find no fee” offer to search for MH370 - Australian Aviation

“The Malaysian Government has accepted an offer from Ocean Infinity to search for the missing plane, entering into a ‘no find no fee’ arrangement,” Chester said in a statement on Thursday.

Chester said the Ocean Infinity search would focus on an area that previously had been identified by experts as the next most likely location to find MH370.

Further, Australia would provide technical assistance to the Malaysian government and Ocean Infinity.

 

[OATEK]

Malaysian government accepts “no find no fee” offer to search for MH370 - Australian Aviation

Discussion of a search vessel positioning to begin the search.
Search for Malaysia flight MH370 to begin | Sky News Australia

 

[tgh]

Prhaps they have agreed because they know the ship is not going to find it ?

 

[Quickstatus]

But what’s the fee plus other incentives (TV rights etc etc?) if they do find it?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Prhaps they have agreed because they know the ship is not going to find it ?

I'm not sure they had any choice?

 

[Sprucegoose]

I'm not sure they had any choice?

It would not maintain good relations with China if they flippantly rejected what is prima facie a ‘no risk’ offer. The fine print will be interesting as to what rights the venture company have received and what obligations the owners of the lost aircraft have accepted and /or rights have been transferred.

What does success look like ?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

It would not maintain good relations with China if they flippantly rejected what is prima facie a ‘no risk’ offer. The fine print will be interesting as to what rights the venture company have received and what obligations the owners of the lost aircraft have accepted and /or rights have been transferred.

What does success look like ?

i didn’t think about relations with china, but equally important i guess.

i was thinking more about the victims’ families. How can you deny them a ‘free’ search? That would be cruel. But maybe MH is in no hurry to find the plane. They’re already trying their hardest to avoid paying for victims of MH17. Maybe they don’t want to face a bill for 370 as well.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Yes there is the financial aspect to this. It’s quite multidimensional.

I wonder if all aircraft now can be tracked by a device that can’t be deactivated by crew on board?

 

[Strategic Aviation]

MH370 conspiracy theory involves Seabed Constructor and chest from shipwreck - ABC News

 

[Strategic Aviation]

Yes there is the financial aspect to this. It’s quite multidimensional.

I wonder if all aircraft now can be tracked by a device that can’t be deactivated by crew on board?

'Commercial decision': Why planes could still vanish into thin air like MH370 - Sydney Morning Herald

That's because international requirements for new planes to broadcast their locations every minute when they're in trouble don't take effect until January 2021.

And that one-minute rule doesn't apply to the current fleet of 23,500 passenger planes and the thousands more joining them in the next three years - mostly in Asia.

A gradual tightening starts in November, when airlines must track planes every 15 minutes under regulations adopted by the United Nations' International Civil Aviation Organisation. Some carriers already meeting this requirement are Malaysia Airlines, Singapore Airlines, Qantas Airways and Qatar Airways.

Under the rules taking effect in 2021, a plane would switch to one-minute tracking automatically when systems detected it was in distress because of turbulence, mechanical difficulties or an unexplained change in course, such as during a hijacking or if the crew became unconscious.

Pilots couldn't turn the system off after it activates automatically, ICAO said. The system would deactivate itself once the plane was flying safely again.

However, a pilot could turn off the system if it was manually activated.

Airlines haven't immediately rolled out tamper-proof tracking technology on every commercial aircraft - potentially at a cost of more than $US1 billion - partly because an event like MH370 is so rare.

 

[UP4014]

And anyone notice the Malays wanted military people to go with the search ship.

The Malay investigation is heading away from independent civilians to military.

Thankfully the search ship owners refused and if any black boxes are found they should get to where they need to go.

 

[marki]

Yes I did noticed and caused me to question this further. I just hope they find the damn thing. That circle is it treasure ie red herring or they actually found the aircraft?

 

[bad]

And anyone notice the Malays wanted military people to go with the search ship.

The Malay investigation is heading away from independent civilians to military.

Thankfully the search ship owners refused and if any black boxes are found they should get to where they need to go.

Such a basic concept but in reality it does not happen!