MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

[Sprucegoose]

Honest question, but what is it with the almost pathological need to fill lack with information with conspiracy theories/stream of consciousness. I am sure the boys and girls doing the searching are doing what they can do, and until there's substantiated data the armchair theories are not helpful.

Flew MAS yesterday KUL-SIN and QF back home overnight. The staff was professional and calm. There was extra security at the gates, but not intrusive. I had thought I might get worried about flying, but there was no hesitation crossing the threshold from airbridge to airplane.
My Malaysian colleague at yesterday's meeting told me that her best friend's husband was a FA on MH370. It's awful. I feel for the Malaysians - it's their flag carrier, and the grief is visceral. Imagine if it was a QF flight; I suspect we would feel the same way.

Was supposed to go straight to work after landing. Chucked a sickie instead, had lunch with Mrs Ozkid, played and read books with the kids.

this post touched me. I think you nailed it.

You had every right to feel confident getting on that plane and made a good call to get things in perspective on touchdown.

 

[Buzzard]

Funny how people think. I know someone that would not fly China Southern to the UK as they felt unsafe but they flew Malaysian. I would have no problem flying any major airline.

 

[JessicaTam]

The CVR only records for 2 hours, so the recording would be long gone by now.

There is some sort of trigger to stop the recording in the case of a major crash, otherwise CVRs would never be able to be recovered.

 

[samh004]

There is some sort of trigger to stop the recording in the case of a major crash, otherwise CVRs would never be able to be recovered.

I figured they were talking about the CVR on the plane that had the conversation with MH370, not the missing plane itself.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

I figured they were talking about the CVR on the plane that had the conversation with MH370, not the missing plane itself.

They were indeed. ..

 

[ozkid]

Funny how people think. I know someone that would not fly China Southern to the UK as they felt unsafe but they flew Malaysian. I would have no problem flying any major airline.

Yes. It comes down to perception (whether grounded in reality or not) and willingness to cede control to someone else (trusting in other's professionalism and training).
A couple in my travelling party in Kathmandu refused to fly Buddha Air - despite nirvana in the airline's name - for an Everest sightseeing flight. Yet we all jumped on board MAS from KTM to KUL without moment's hesitation, 3 hours prior to MH370 taking off.

 

[JessicaTam]

I figured they were talking about the CVR on the plane that had the conversation with MH370, not the missing plane itself.

Ahh, got it.

 

[samh004]

They were indeed. ..

Apologies, I couldn't remember who I'd quoted

 

[burmans]

I'm sure I'm not the only one that watches Air Crash Investigations.

Not sure of the relevance of this bit, my daughter is a huge fan of this but it's because of reasons directly opposite to wanting to speculate, namely she prefers facts to speculation and at the end ACI does explain the facts quite well.

 

[Robbi]

Honest question, but what is it with the almost pathological need to fill lack with information with conspiracy theories/stream of consciousness. I am sure the boys and girls doing the searching are doing what they can do, and until there's substantiated data the armchair theories are not helpful.

One person's unhelpful is another person's helpful. I don't see random conspiracy theories being aired here, just normal people asking normal questions related to the limited information that is available about this incident and in light of past occurrences. We all like to fly and many of us want to know why things happen so we can make that psychological "she'll be right when I fly home this week" calculation.

That part of the AFF population with enquiring minds could just as easily ask why is it there is always someone pathologically complaining about people asking questions....The human race is a broad spectrum of people who interact with and view the universe in wildly different ways and we all need to get used to the fact we aren't all the same, one size does not fit all.

Although this is a public forum and we are perfectly entitled to read and comment on anything we see here, if we don't like aspects of this thread or any other thread in AFF, we are not obliged to read it, comment on it or subscribe to it.

Oh, and nothing said in this forum is going to affect the SAR people one iota.

The only dumb question is the unasked one.

 

[UP4014]

Funny how people think. I know someone that would not fly China Southern to the UK as they felt unsafe but they flew Malaysian. I would have no problem flying any major airline.

Not all airlines are created equal. (Even the major ones)

 

[Programme]

Not all airlines are created equal. (Even the major ones)

It may not be entirely rational, but I'm very happy that my next trip is on Qantas. I'll leave it at that.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

JB or any other experts on the thread

I understand that the black box has a transmitter attached that sends a signal for 30 days or so . Are you able to advise how strong this signal is ? ie would you have to be on top of it to pick it up or is it something that has a 20-50km or further transmission?

They are designed to emit an underwater locator beacon for up to 30 days and can operate immersed to a depth of up to 6,000 meters .

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/210220/flight-recorder

Consisting of a heavy stainless steel shell wrapped within layers of insulating material and covered by an aluminum housing, a memory unit is expected to survive impacts of 3,400 g (units of gravitational acceleration), flame temperatures as high as 1,100 °C (2,000 °F), and pressures encountered at 6,000 metres (20,000 feet) underwater. In the event of a crash at sea, flight recorders are equipped with a sonar device that is designed to emit an ultrasonic locator signal for at least 30 days.

The missing French plane was in deep water. The water where this plane is meant have been is relatively shallow.

 

[Hvr]

Given the plane was flying to PEK wouldn't virtually all non-native Chinese pax need to obtain a visa prior to travel?

If a visa was issued to a stolen passport then the Chinese authorities must not have checked the database of stolen passports?

I do know about the 72 hour visa free entry for continuing pax but...

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Given the plane was flying to PEK wouldn't virtually all non-native Chinese pax need to obtain a visa prior to travel?

If a visa was issued to a stolen passport then the Chinese authorities must not have checked the database of stolen passports?

I do know about the 72 hour visa free entry for continuing pax but...

if you know that why are you questioning it ? The two passengers with stolen passports were only scheduled to be in transit in Beijing...

 

[Mal]

News reports are saying the tickets bought with false passports weren't specifically requested as transit through China, but were based on them being the cheapest.
Assuming true, does point to people smuggling or something similar, not terrorism related.


News report here :
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/m...ink-for-mh370-passengers-with-fake-identities

 

[whatmeworry]

News reports are saying the tickets bought with false passports weren't specifically requested as transit through China, but were based on them being the cheapest.
Assuming true, does point to people smuggling or something similar, not terrorism related.

If this is true, then attention would turn to the pilots and the plane.

 

[whatmeworry]

Reports the guys on the stolen passports were not of Asian appearance.
Malaysia Airlines plane missing: Desperate search for wreckage and clues two days after it vanished | News.com.au

 

[boomy]

News reports are saying the tickets bought with false passports weren't specifically requested as transit through China, but were based on them being the cheapest.
Assuming true, does point to people smuggling or something similar, not terrorism related.


News report here :
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/m...ink-for-mh370-passengers-with-fake-identities

When I read about and an Iranian mystery man buying tickets using cash for people travelling on stolen passports, people smuggling is not the first thing comes to mind...

 

[Mal]

When I read about and an Iranian mystery man buying tickets using cash for people travelling on stolen passports, people smuggling is not the first thing comes to mind...

Why not? Perfect way to start a new life in Europe. I doubt spies would seek the cheapest ticket... They would specify a certain known good route.

As for terrorism. Too many people jump to that conclusion with no proof.