My airline infidelity......

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Ok, I need to get this off my chest first; I cheated on my long term partner; that good old faithful long term always been there for me Qantas.
Phew, so I feel a bit better, but like all adulterous relationships, it seems I cannot stop!, so some background, then some advise from those who can either slap me back into QF or perhaps convince me of an impending divorce?

I really like Qantas, they have hardly ever stuffed me around, and they have been really nice to me, as a WP, Qantas make sure that most flights I have a shadow, if anything goes pear shaped they sort things out for me, and even occasionally they have let me use points to sit in a part of the plane I really shouldn’t be sitting in.

I even had a OW RTW ticket earlier this year where their partners too looked after me, so my relationships with them too are very good.


But about 6 weeks ago, a client booked me on CX MEL/TPE and return, and even in the old J coffin seats, the service was sensational, far better than anything I’ve ever had on QF, I’ve never been tucked into bed before by a FA, but I pretty much got everything except a peck on the cheek. What’s more the service was genuine, the CX crew really did seem to care that i was having a safe and comfortable flight, at least it appeared that way to me.


So I have yet another two more chances to perhaps think about straying from the confines of my loyal long time partner, to both KHH via HKG and in another potentially adulterous trip to SIN.

So here’s what I’ve done; I’m on CX again to KHH via HKG in J. And perhaps the most shocking move for me, picking yet another mistress, perhaps the most outlandish of all SQ to SIN.

So here’s my logic in picking non QF services;
CX have multiple better departure times to HKG from MEL, QF’s timing to HKG sucks.
The service I had on CX was simply awesome to say the least.
The connections and interlining to KHH make it seamless.

SQ in J was almost $2k cheaper than QF again with better times to suit what I need to do.
Plus ill get to fly another carriers A380 product and from all accounts, try out some of the best service in the sky there is. (I have no status at all with SQ so unsure of treatment)

So some advise from you all if I may;
Will the SQ flight push me over the edge and make me forget about QF altogether? - are they that good?
After the above will I forget about the last bastion of QF love, my trans pac flights and push me onto VA?
What kind of love will I get on SQ with no status?
Am I crazy for throwing away a long and fruitful relationship for a grass is greener moment?
Should I split my FF love and accept reduced status across the board but a better travelling experience?


Yours faithfully

Mr Lovestruck.

 

[ashleyn]

Ok, I need to get this off my chest first; I cheated on my long term partner; that good old faithful long term always been there for me Qantas.
Phew, so I feel a bit better, but like all adulterous relationships, it seems I cannot stop!, so some background, then some advise from those who can either slap me back into QF or perhaps convince me of an impending divorce?

I really like Qantas, they have hardly ever stuffed me around, and they have been really nice to me, as a WP, Qantas make sure that most flights I have a shadow, if anything goes pear shaped they sort things out for me, and even occasionally they have let me use points to sit in a part of the plane I really shouldn’t be sitting in.

I even had a OW RTW ticket earlier this year where their partners too looked after me, so my relationships with them too are very good.


But about 6 weeks ago, a client booked me on CX MEL/TPE and return, and even in the old J coffin seats, the service was sensational, far better than anything I’ve ever had on QF, I’ve never been tucked into bed before by a FA, but I pretty much got everything except a peck on the cheek. What’s more the service was genuine, the CX crew really did seem to care that i was having a safe and comfortable flight, at least it appeared that way to me.


So I have yet another two more chances to perhaps think about straying from the confines of my loyal long time partner, to both KHH via HKG and in another potentially adulterous trip to SIN.

So here’s what I’ve done; I’m on CX again to KHH via HKG in J. And perhaps the most shocking move for me, picking yet another mistress, perhaps the most outlandish of all SQ to SIN.

So here’s my logic in picking non QF services;
CX have multiple better departure times to HKG from MEL, QF’s timing to HKG sucks.
The service I had on CX was simply awesome to say the least.
The connections and interlining to KHH make it seamless.

SQ in J was almost $2k cheaper than QF again with better times to suit what I need to do.
Plus ill get to fly another carriers A380 product and from all accounts, try out some of the best service in the sky there is. (I have no status at all with SQ so unsure of treatment)

So some advise from you all if I may;
Will the SQ flight push me over the edge and make me forget about QF altogether? - are they that good?
After the above will I forget about the last bastion of QF love, my trans pac flights and push me onto VA?
What kind of love will I get on SQ with no status?
Am I crazy for throwing away a long and fruitful relationship for a grass is greener moment?
Should I split my FF love and accept reduced status across the board but a better travelling experience?


Yours faithfully

Mr Lovestruck.

I honestly think only you can answer these questions.

 

[yohy?!]

Feel comforted that your infidelity is enjoyed by many others, there's a reason why these carriers are cleaning QFs clock...

 

[Awesom Andy]

About half of my QF SC earns are from CX flights...

 

[simongr]

This year the tale of the tape for me is:

CX - 960
KA - 180
Double SCs - 800
QF - 2000 (ish)

The CX and KA flights amounted to only 10 sectors...

Personally I am happy to flirt with other carriers but I prefer to stick OW. Flying to the UK I would always now try for QF in J on the A380 as the service I have had in J (and F) on the A380 has always been exemplary.

I am hoping also for an OpUp to F on QF.

 

[amaroo]

I'm a huge CX fan......they just get better & better - look at their new J ex-SYD!

SQ would be a easy decision if they had a fair dinkum local partner in OZ......FWIW I wouldn't go outside the OW dance card unless I did it enough to secure status or had sufficient coin to book the highest class every time.

 

[dajop]

It's funny how everyone gets hooked on the chance of an upgrade, a seat in row 4 instead of row 8, and a few free meals and drinks in an F lounge .. as much as it is sacrilege to say so on AFF I am now tending towards airlines that will get me where I want to go, when I want to go in the shortest possible time, with minimum fuss with a reasonable product and price. If to do that, you need to spread their love around you may well be better off with a couple of mid tier (but lounge accessible) status's than one uber-status. Unless of course you always fly J and then you shouldn't worry about loyalty at all

 

[Awesom Andy]

SQ would be a easy decision if they had a fair dinkum local partner in OZ

Would be wonderful if they worked/cooperated a bit more with DJ. And if they can add some toilets and showers in their gold lounges, I can't see QF keeping their xSIN pax for very long.

 

[JohnK]

Will the SQ flight push me over the edge and make me forget about QF altogether? - are they that good?

Only you can answer that question but for me that answer was no. SQ are OK but they are not a lay down mazeire over QF.

Am I crazy for throwing away a long and fruitful relationship for a grass is greener moment?

It is always good to try what the other side has to offer but as I have found out recently, Qantas is not as bad a I thought. Either that or I am having a bad trot on other airlines. I don't see this "so-called" superior service on SQ, CX, OZ etc. On the contrary it is at best acceptable and I would certainly not call it superior.

Should I split my FF love and accept reduced status across the board but a better travelling experience?

Status goes a long way if you cannot afford to travel in the premium cabins. As a Qantas Platinum I can earn enough points for a return award ticket SYD-BKK for every 3 paid economy flights purchased. And the cost of these flights is ~AUD800-900. That is a no brainer to me.

 

[boylero]

it such a shame that CX J is 25% cabins bonus only when usinf QFF, no status bonus. If its points your after and you have WP then QF metal is the best BFB

 

[QF WP]

SQ in J was almost $2k cheaper than QF again with better times to suit what I need to do.
Plus ill get to fly another carriers A380 product and from all accounts, try out some of the best service in the sky there is. (I have no status at all with SQ so unsure of treatment)

Time to look at a status match to either Virgin, or a Star Alliance carrier then. That will get you a long way to re-qualifying

 

[Limewood]

I've done CNS/HKG a few times on CX in both classes, last one in Y with Mrs. Lime, at CX check in was told we have 4 seats for you in centre if you wish, said yes (only one who had 4), not long after departure had a visit from chief FA asked if I was comfortable, did I need anything like glass of wine, she came back twice more during the flight, was rather impressed.

And I live in hope that one day they will upgrade those coffin seats in J on this route to those aircraft that fly into SYD etc. that have the new seating.

 

[browski]

So here’s what I’ve done; I’m on CX again to KHH via HKG in J. And perhaps the most shocking move for me, picking yet another mistress, perhaps the most outlandish of all SQ to SIN.

CX do not actually fly to Kaohsiung. I'm guessing you'd be on the DragonAir flight.

Using the Qantas FF program is only really beneficial if you fly a lot of sectors within domestic Australia. If your travel is weighted to long haul, then ANY of TG, MH, CX, SQ and EK will better meet your needs.

 

[QF1]

Only you can answer that question but for me that answer was no. SQ are OK but they are not a lay down mazeire over QF. ..

I do not agree with you on this. SQ is certainly better in all its classes as far as service goes.

SQ does not have a full fledged local partner and therfore its not preferred by a good number AFFs as much as QFi.

 

[dajop]

I do not agree with you on this. SQ is certainly better in all its classes as far as service goes.

I do not agree with you on this. SQ is certainly better in all its classes as far as service goes. ...

Not all the time, and it may depend on what an individual prefers, the two have different types of service. Personalised (QF if lucky) or formulaic (SQ), but in Y, SQ is usually better. (noting that personally I find that SQ is (or was) usually as good as, and in most instances better as far as service goes than QF, but understand opinions vary). It also extends beyond in cabin service, for me, when I was living in MEL it was also the service they provided to the city - with better timing and more services to a range of Asian destinations, without the need to transit SYD. Of course if I was travelling to the US I am sure QF would have served me better. And now that I'm in SIN it is the obvious choice, albeit with the qualifier that for short self-funded leisure trips 3K is good enough.

 

[drewbles]

It's funny how everyone gets hooked on the chance of an upgrade, a seat in row 4 instead of row 8, and a few free meals and drinks in an F lounge .. as much as it is sacrilege to say so on AFF I am now tending towards airlines that will get me where I want to go, when I want to go in the shortest possible time, with minimum fuss with a reasonable product and price. If to do that, you need to spread their love around you may well be better off with a couple of mid tier (but lounge accessible) status's than one uber-status. Unless of course you always fly J and then you shouldn't worry about loyalty at all

With some careful planning, i'm managing to keep up QF WP, DJ P and a *A Gold level as well. This is with very very minimal status runs. It just seems that since I have far more friends in the USA than I do in Australia, I spend a lot of time over there

 

[QF1]

Not all the time, and it may depend on what an individual prefers, the two have different types of service. Personalised (QF if lucky) or formulaic (SQ), but in Y, SQ is usually better. (noting that personally I find that SQ is (or was) usually as good as, and in most instances better as far as service goes than QF, but understand opinions vary). It also extends beyond in cabin service, for me, when I was living in MEL it was also the service they provided to the city - with better timing and more services to a range of Asian destinations, without the need to transit SYD. Of course if I was travelling to the US I am sure QF would have served me better. And now that I'm in SIN it is the obvious choice, albeit with the qualifier that for short self-funded leisure trips 3K is good enough.

I agree that individual preferences are centre to this question. Infact you have highlighted what I had intended.

 

[Muzfly]

I do not agree with you on this. SQ is certainly better in all its classes as far as service goes.

SQ does not have a full fledged local partner and therfore its not preferred by a good number AFFs as much as QFi.

Try flying SQ out of Brisbane. No First, smaller aircraft than ex Sydney, service average. To add to the insult they charge as much in J ex BNE to SIN as they do ex SYD yet BNE pax are crammed into the old Airbus while SYP pax get the 380 and resultant room and superior product. Its my experience that the only thing superior about SQ is that their advertising unit has done a fabulous job of convincing the punters that their average service is better than anyone else's.....

 

[mannej]

Try flying SQ out of Brisbane. No First, smaller aircraft than ex Sydney, service average. To add to the insult they charge as much in J ex BNE to SIN as they do ex SYD yet BNE pax are crammed into the old Airbus while SYP pax get the 380 and resultant room and superior product. Its my experience that the only thing superior about SQ is that their advertising unit has done a fabulous job of convincing the punters that their average service is better than anyone else's.....

Sorry, but I would hardly call the SQ 330's old at all. They are under 5 years old from memory.

The 777's SQ use out of PER are much older. The plane is only one part of the price that airline charges.

 

[Muzfly]

There is no comparison between SQ's 330 v 380. The J Class product in SQ is not a patch on what they offer ex SYD for the same money. The plane and its cabin are everything..... the 330 is cramped and dated and it matters not how old it is. As for the service, three times now I've had to accept my 3rd choice for the meal. Now this of course sounds trite for those stuck down the back, but for what SQ charges, its pathetic. Interestingly something like that has never occurred on the Flying Roo.....