NBN Discussion

[scaredeycat]

Having had a glimpse of the future it is a tragedy that most of Australia will be stuck in the past for a very long time yet.

 

[serfty]

Having had a glimpse of the future it is a tragedy that most of Australia will be stuck in the past for a very long time yet.

Aside your specific the TAS trunk issue, most Australian residents will have access to good speed from non physical connections within a decade, putting FTTP and FTTN in their current form virtually obsolete....

 

[RAM]

Having had a glimpse of the future it is a tragedy that most of Australia will be stuck in the past for a very long time yet.

However once people start to take up the NBN packages (forced after 18 months isn't it?) offering any high speeds then it hits the backbone issue of not enough capacity like Optus cable frequently does. Last stats I saw had less than 7% taking top speed packages.

If everyone decides to start downloading HD films/programs/videos then the download speeds start to tumble. Where I am the 'supposed' plan is for the NBN to use the Optus cable instead of laying new.

Currently download speeds (prior to tech upgrade - I hope) max out around 30mb/s. When there is nobody around that is.

From mid afternoon (post schools out) to late evening it often drops to sub 2mb/s.

Ombudsman - "Optus does not state a minimum download speed."

Does the NBN guarantee a MINIMUM download/upload speed or just 'up to'?

 

[Chrizztofa]

However once people start to take up the NBN packages (forced after 18 months isn't it?) offering any high speeds then it hits the backbone issue of not enough capacity like Optus cable frequently does. Last stats I saw had less than 7% taking top speed packages.

If everyone decides to start downloading HD films/programs/videos then the download speeds start to tumble. Where I am the 'supposed' plan is for the NBN to use the Optus cable instead of laying new.

Currently download speeds (prior to tech upgrade - I hope) max out around 30mb/s. When there is nobody around that is.

From mid afternoon (post schools out) to late evening it often drops to sub 2mb/s.

Ombudsman - "Optus does not state a minimum download speed."

Does the NBN guarantee a MINIMUM download/upload speed or just 'up to'?

AFAIK there's no minimum download/upload speed. If the provider is unable to get speeds anywhere near advertised you may have a case for false advertising (advertising speeds they have no ability to deliver) but the ombudsman's comment isn't encouraging.

 

[marki]

I had to leave Perth for rural Thailand to get decent internet speed.

I am in the Middle of Melbourne the best they can do is ADSL 2+ but with contention issues and suffering stutters when trying to watch some Netflix.

Awful price for this service thanks Telstra!

 

[moa999]

AFAIK there's no minimum download/upload speed. If the provider is unable to get speeds anywhere near advertised you may have a case for false advertising (advertising speeds they have no ability to deliver) but the ombudsman's comment isn't encouraging.

The NBN guarantees minimum wholesale/sync speeds for FTTN.

All NBN however is subject to contention (or bandwidth sharing) which assumes not everyone is using the pipe at the same time.

After a small free limit, the NBN charges each RSP $17.50/ 1 Mbps (was $20 under Labor initially).

So if you are only paying say $60/mth and everyone else is the same -- if everyone is streaming at 6pm likelihood is you won't get much more than 3-4mbps.

Now reality is not everyone will, but even if it's 50% or 25% it's a pretty big impact on speed

 

[exceladdict]

Send me elsewhere if this is too OT, but the cheapest 100/40 plan I can find with a reasonable allowance is around $85-90. Am I missing something?

 

[moa999]

Sounds about right.

With Belong I'm paying $60 off contract for 100Gb 25/5

But that would jump to $95 for 1Tb at 100/40.

There is a big cross subsidy for providing affordable Satellite services to the bush

 

[Deleted member]

Never trusted Malcolm Turnbull as a politician considering his Investment banker/venture capitalist career.

And what about his career as a merchant banker causes you to distrust him?
Do you have an opinion on ex union bosses as well?

 

[love_the_life]

I look out my window at Parliament House, virtually in the parliamentary triangle. The planning for NBN doesn't include us at all in the foreseeable (or for that matter, distant) future

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

I look out my window at Parliament House, virtually in the parliamentary triangle. The planning for NBN doesn't include us at all in the foreseeable (or for that matter, distant) future

Don't you have TransACT fibre already in Canberra?

 

[love_the_life]

Transact was great about 15 yrs ago - no money put into upkeep or services. Taken over by iiNet a few years back. No service where we live. Stuck with Telstra - very slow and specially when the house is sitting.

 

[Himeno]

Don't you have TransACT fibre already in Canberra?

TransACT only completed cable roll out to cover 55000 homes. Large parts of Canberra missed out. The rest got phase 2 roll out, which was the same as any other ISP DSL connection.

 

[whatmeworry]

Breaking news: Tasmania to cut the Basslink in favour of NZ's UFB.

Revealed: Tas govt cut Basslink in NBN protest - Strategy - iTnews

 

[exceladdict]

Another quick question to anyone on VDSL - has the same PSTN disconnection carried through as with people connected to FTTB?

Do you now have to use VOIP or is it filtered like ADSL?

We need to get a line in for the lift in our building but there's zero info on fttb/fttn connections on the nbn info guides...

 

[moa999]

With FTTN/FTTB it's possible to get a POTS pass thru but only for 18 months -- so you are best going VOIP or otherwise from the outset.

Choices are either switch to a 3G/4G dialler.

Or use an Analogue Adapter for VOIP. A Whirlpool member has posted a good fax configuration guide for the $60 Cisco SPA112 which should work well on alarm/lift diallers

https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2508079

 

[moa999]

Also note that a key item in any setup will need to be battery backup/UPS to power the VDSL modem/any switches and ATA. Or the 3G/4G dialler given I assume a power outage might be one reason you need to call.

 

[JessicaTam]

I received a card in my letter box the other week telling me that the rollout in my street is about to start. It suggested that I check the NBN website for progress.

Trouble is, when I enter my address the result tells me there is nothing planned. :shock:

*sigh*

 

[straitman]

I received a card in my letter box the other week telling me that the rollout in my street is about to start. It suggested that I check the NBN website for progress.

Trouble is, when I enter my address the result tells me there is nothing planned. :shock:

*sigh*

.... and you are surprised, why :?:

 

[penegal]

NBN discussion got some airtime this weekend.

Given I don't live in a marginal electorate, I think we will get it circa 2023. To be fair, the existing internet connectivity to my area is quite good, and there has been only one [short] outage in recent memory. So we don't really "need it" [at all / as much as other areas].