NOT re: Army coup Turkey

[dajop]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

And then there are a certain group of migrants whose kids are now 2nd and 3rd generation who refuse to speak English even at school. These are 16 and 17 year olds. They do not hangout with anyone other than their own race/religion. They spit on Australian culture. They spit on Australian society. Very sad.

I think there's a grain of truth in what you're saying, but is for a specific group of Muslims from certain places. There are also large groups of Muslims in Australia (for example from Indonesia, the country with the largest number of Muslims) that are nowhere as extreme as some groups and certainly more respectful of Australian culture and meshing it with their own.

This is the problem with tarring everyone with the same brush.

 

[admin]

I have edited and deleted some posts which contain unhelpful and details which have nothing to do with the topic.

Please be respectful and keep the conversation on topic.

 

[marki]

If this thread is going to deepen the racial etc. subthread further then I hope the mods will split it off with equal haste and zeal as they have with other, less emotional / passionate subjects.

Religious sub-thread not racist, don't dig your hole in the sand too deep otherwise you will be gone.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Religious sub-thread not racist, don't dig your hole in the sand too deep otherwise you will be gone.

I don't regard Huff post as the best source of wisdom but on this I think the writer is spot on.
Muslims aren't a race, so I can't be racist, Right? Wrong.

To be clear the title of the article reproduced above is not directed at any particular poster on this thread.

 

[amaroo]

Looks like the "coup" has served its purpose!

Turkey coup attempt: Government presses post-coup purge with over 7,500 arrests - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Turkey has so far detained over 7,500 people and sacked almost 9,000 officials in its relentless purge of suspected plotters with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan vowing to wipe out the "virus".

Hopefully, there will be a "real" coup very soon!

 

[marki]

I don't regard Huff post as the best source of wisdom but on this I think the writer is spot on.
Muslims aren't a race, so I can't be racist, Right? Wrong.

To be clear the title of the article reproduced above is not directed at any particular poster on this thread.

Not very convincing ....... In The Middle East see if you can preach religious freedom like we do in Australia. The fact we can talk about it freely is a testament to our well grounded freedom. Before this if you lived in a Eastern block country in the times of an iron curtain political discussion meant being imprisoned or followed by the Stasi( east Germany). Nobody does it here in Oz.?

You cannot talk about rape in Germany --- why? It won't make the daily news. Looking at at someone with a burqua disapprovingly is not racist sorry. Otherwise the French got it wrong banning it.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Not very convincing ....... In The Middle East see if you can preach religious freedom like we do in Australia. The fact we can talk about it freely is a testament to our well grounded freedom. Before this if you lived in a Eastern block country in the times of an iron curtain political discussion meant being imprisoned or followed by the Stasi( east Germany). Nobody does it here in Oz.?

You cannot talk about rape in Germany --- why? It won't make the daily news. Looking at at someone with a burqua disapprovingly is not racist sorry. Otherwise the French got it wrong banning it.

I'm not trying to convince you marki.
That seems to be a lost cause.
I'm merely stating that in my opinion the fear and bigotry displayed towards Muslims is wrong on every level.

 

[marki]

I'm not trying to convince you marki.
That seems to be a lost cause.
I'm merely stating that in my opinion the fear and bigotry displayed towards Muslims is wrong on every level.

I am talking about the article "big eye roll" the one you sent in the Huff post. I was referring to that "not" being convincing.
Your remarks PF in relation to me being a lost cause that's uncalled for and I am frankly not seeing why I deserve a smack down from you? I fight for the right to freedom of speech. Will defend it dearly and till death.
I have-not attacked you personally? And defend your right to speak however disagreeing with your above reference to me.
That's what I represent. Freedom one knows what it means when lost.

My opinion the fear and bigotry ( intolerance of those with a different opinion) displayed towards any religion, political, or gender is wrong on every level so we are not far off in agree-ance

 

[Princess Fiona]

I am talking about the article "big eye roll" the one you sent in the Huff post. I was referring to that "not" being convincing.
Your remarks PF in relation to me being a lost cause that's uncalled for and I am frankly not seeing why I deserve a smack down from you? I fight for the right to freedom of speech. Will defend it dearly and till death.
I have-not attacked you personally? And defend your right to speak however disagreeing with your above reference to me.
That's what I represent. Freedom one knows what it means when lost.

My opinion the fear and bigotry ( intolerance of those with a different opinion) displayed towards any religion, political, or gender is wrong on every level so we are not far off in agree-ance

I haven't "smacked you down". I know you are referring to the article as unconvincing. You don't agree with it, I didn't think that you would given that you think Sonia Kruger "speaks the truth". That is what makes you a lost cause in my opinion. Neither of us have attacked each other personally.

 

[marki]

I haven't "smacked you down". I know you are referring to the article as unconvincing. You don't agree with it, I didn't think that you would given that you think Sonia Kruger "speaks the truth". That is what makes you a lost cause in my opinion. Neither of us have attacked each other personally.

Yes you have and more so ...

You misquote me too!

" I feel for her trying to speak the truth "
This does not equal
" speaks the truth "

I did clarify that the truth as she saw it in a post afterwards.

Being attacked for liking Sonia's brave opinion? Misguided rage ?

 

[junbugging]

I am frankly not seeing why I deserve a smack down from you?

You are quite frankly exaggerating. Nobody has smacked you down. I'm not sure why you think your particular right to freedom of speech extends to the right to not being called out on speaking utter nonsense. I don't think there is any universally recognised human right to have the last say every time.

 

[rainbowgirl]

Where is the link to the actual thread discussing the coup?

 

[Pushka]

I wish the 'ban' discussion would revert to unwanted behaviours rather than any social or religious groups.

 

[marki]

Unwanted behaviours plenty. They are not discriminatory.

 

[admin]

I'm now going to close this thread: it was a split-off thread, its getting heated, no one is going to change any others opinion, the topic has nothing to do with flying (yes, I know its in the Playground), and quite frankly there are plenty of other places on the internet to have these discussions.