Nov 23 Routes

[Pom-DownUnder]

CGK is Jakarta
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Ahh the life of a bronze, even the ones i'm looking at 15/16 of nov ideally dont show any actual Business options when I select through, i'm guessing you can see the Qantas direct flights that I cant at bronze

 

[kangarooflyer88]

i've considered a few days in Paris and leaving via CDG but getting out of europe isnt an issue its when I get to asia and finding a way back into AU on something other than economy.

Sometimes, the fact that you found business classic availability on one segment is irrelevant. Remember, this whole itinerary isn't a collection of separate parts but components which must work together. For instance the flight from CDG to NRT may get in a couple hours earlier enabling you to catch an earlier flight from NRT to SYD which may in fact have classic availability.

All I'm saying is cast a wide net, and also have a set goal of what you find is reasonable. Whilst some of us would be more than willing to fly the wrong way to secure a coveted business classic award, some people due value their sanity more! For me, I wouldn't mind flying to the US before continuing on to Sydney and would prefer that switching airports in TYO and having to deal with the mess that is CGK.

-RooFlyer88

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Sometimes, the fact that you found business classic availability on one segment is irrelevant. Remember, this whole itinerary isn't a collection of separate parts but components which must work together. For instance the flight from CDG to NRT may get in a couple hours earlier enabling you to catch an earlier flight from NRT to SYD which may in fact have classic availability.

All I'm saying is cast a wide net, and also have a set goal of what you find is reasonable. Whilst some of us would be more than willing to fly the wrong way to secure a coveted business classic award, some people due value their sanity more! For me, I wouldn't mind flying to the US before continuing on to Sydney and would prefer that switching airports in TYO and having to deal with the mess that is CGK.

-RooFlyer88

Looks like I'm gonna have to eat my own words: Paris to Sydney in (business class) with EK to CGK and QF to SYD on November 14:

 

[jase05]

View attachment 310943Ahh the life of a bronze, even the ones i'm looking at 15/16 of nov ideally dont show any actual Business options when I select through, i'm guessing you can see the Qantas direct flights that I cant at bronze

Yes, as a Gold I can see plenty of direct availability with some dates having up to 4 J seats available. On November 15th and 16th there was 2 J seats available

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Another option to keep in your pocket is out of BHX, Birmingham (UK not Alabama), we've got the 8th, 11th and 14th all showing this:

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

Sometimes, the fact that you found business classic availability on one segment is irrelevant. Remember, this whole itinerary isn't a collection of separate parts but components which must work together. For instance the flight from CDG to NRT may get in a couple hours earlier enabling you to catch an earlier flight from NRT to SYD which may in fact have classic availability.

All I'm saying is cast a wide net, and also have a set goal of what you find is reasonable. Whilst some of us would be more than willing to fly the wrong way to secure a coveted business classic award, some people due value their sanity more! For me, I wouldn't mind flying to the US before continuing on to Sydney and would prefer that switching airports in TYO and having to deal with the mess that is CGK.

-RooFlyer88

i'm mixing up between NCL/MAN/LHR to get out of the uk, trying via DXB/HKG/SIN/KUL/MNL/HND/MAA

net is pretty wide and not catching much

 

[kangarooflyer88]

i'm mixing up between NCL/MAN/LHR to get out of the uk, trying via DXB/HKG/SIN/KUL/MNL/HND/MAA

net is pretty wide and not catching much

In fairness, there is a surefire way I posted up thread, fly BA J to LAX on the 10th, then catch FJ J to SYD on the 11th.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

In fairness, there is a surefire way I posted up thread, fly BA J to LAX on the 10th, then catch FJ J to SYD on the 11th.

Yea agreed there is a few spotted around but I am staying away from weekends for travel I know I know picky picky! mon-thur 4 out of 7 days heh

 

[jase05]

i'm mixing up between NCL/MAN/LHR to get out of the uk, trying via DXB/HKG/SIN/KUL/MNL/HND/MAA

net is pretty wide and not catching much

Absolutely tons of award availability on JL in J and even some F availability. With a bit of playing around you could cobble something together

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

Absolutely tons of award availability on JL in J and even some F availability. With a bit of playing around you could cobble something together
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Yea mate as I said getting out of the UK / EU is fine, its the second part of getting back to AU where the wheels come off

 

[jase05]

Yea mate as I said getting out of the UK / EU is fine, its the second part of getting back to AU where the wheels come off

There is availability on JL from the London to Tokyo
There is availability on JL from Tokyo to Jakarta
There is availability on QF from Jakarta to Sydney
It might require a bit of flexibility but with the generous amount of award seats available you should be able to cobble together something

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

There is availability on JL from the London to Tokyo
There is availability on JL from Tokyo to Jakarta
There is availability on QF from Jakarta to Sydney
It might require a bit of flexibility but with the generous amount of award seats available you should be able to cobble together something

QF from Jakarta to Sydney = not available for me as bronze

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

It'll open up to me in a month or so, hopefully still be there

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Other option (and I know this is on a weekend), is CDG to KUL on EK on the 11th then KUL to SYD on MH on the 12th:

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It'll open up to me in a month or so, hopefully still be there

If I was you (and I'm not you by the way), I would look at the options available now and book whichever one works best. If you are able to find a better itinerary later on it is what 5,000 QF points to change (at least on a classic award)? Much better to have a workable itinerary in hand than to be sitting on points and hoping that the right award opens up for you!

 

[jase05]

QF from Jakarta to Sydney = not available for me as bronze

Oh, forgot that.
Usually pretty good MH availability KUL-ADL so I know it’s a bit of a work around but perhaps some availability on JL/MH from Tokyo to KL.
Have you also considered CI as there is great availability TPE-SYD and for that you could get EK from LGW-DXB-TPE in J and even on F all the way to Taipei

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Have you also considered CI as there is great availability TPE-SYD and for that you could get EK from LGW-DXB-TPE in J and even on F all the way to Taipei

Bingo! Tons of availability for LHR > TPE be it on JL or EK followed by CI service from TPE to SYD. For instance, here's a Nov 8th departure out of LHR "connecting" onward to a November 9th service on CI to SYD:



In case you're wondering $3,335 is the price in New Taiwan Dollars which converts over to $159 AUD.

As you can see above there is JL availability which if you book that means you'll save £365 versus the EK departure. I cannot comment on EK or JL service having flown neither, but would find it surprising if booking EK was warranted over JL. Speaking about saving money, one could further shave another £100 departing ex-CDG. Then again, you have to weigh the cost savings over the inconvenience of getting there.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Bingo! Tons of availability for LHR > TPE be it on JL or EK followed by CI service from TPE to SYD. For instance, here's a Nov 8th departure out of LHR "connecting" onward to a November 9th service on CI to SYD:
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In case you're wondering $3,335 is the price in New Taiwan Dollars which converts over to $159 AUD.

As you can see above there is JL availability which if you book that means you'll save £365 versus the EK departure. I cannot comment on EK or JL service having flown neither, but would find it surprising if booking EK was warranted over JL. Speaking about saving money, one could further shave another £100 departing ex-CDG. Then again, you have to weigh the cost savings over the inconvenience of getting there.

As an aside, I noticed JL flies into TSA and not TPE whereas the onwards flight to SYD departs TPE. I'm not sure how long it takes to go between the two airports, so it might make sense to "splurge" on EK since at least you'll be landing at the same airport you'll be departing from a couple hours later.

 

[jase05]

As an aside, I noticed JL flies into TSA and not TPE whereas the onwards flight to SYD departs TPE. I'm not sure how long it takes to go between the two airports, so it might make sense to "splurge" on EK since at least you'll be landing at the same airport you'll be departing from a couple hours later.

It’s an hour between the two but it’s really not worth the hassle of going through immigration etc. Much easier just to transit in TPE

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

Hadn't looked at CI at all actually, thank you will check them out, how do they fare compared to the main players?

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Hadn't looked at CI at all actually, thank you will check them out, how do they fare compared to the main players?

Here's a trip report of that route from a couple of years ago:

No doubt things may have changed slightly due to COVID, but overall it doesn't seem that bad. One thing to keep in mind too is Taiwan is a separate country from China so things are different in terms of transiting rules (generally more favourable for us in the West). Also they don't seem to have the "reputation" that Chinese carriers have in terms of the poor quality of lounges and aircraft.

-RooFlyer88