Official Qantas response please

[ajw373]

I find it ironic that ComeFlyWithMe likes the post above, but is himself (or maybe herself as I don't know them) continuing the conversation that is feeding the thread which is contrary to the post above. For me as I said SOME people no matter what they do cannot avoid putting their knees into the back of someone who has reclined. Still not sure where they are meant to put the long legs, especially if row 1 has been reserved for ComeFlyWithMe.

Probably because most cough are overdosed on testosterone and most likely to resort to violence, so the average pax is afraid of the repercussions. Somebody who behaves like you do would hardly be worth the confrontation.

Seriously I find this offensive. I have made no personal attack on you are anyone in particular for that matter, just generalisation of what I have seen. You don't know me, you don't know how I behave, so as I said I find the comment above extremely offensive and uncalled for.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

I liked the post as I find this all in good humour.

I find people generally generalise too much about generalisations.

And didn't you say YOU put your knees into the back of the seat? Or did I misread? I also said people 'like' you, so how's that for more generalisation?

Sorry if you were generally offended by my generalisations. My general apologies.

 

[JohnK]

If the seat wasn't to be reclined it would be a fixed seat. QF offer reclining seats in all classes AFAIK.

The only think idiotic is beating the back of the seat.

Recline just because you can recline. Wonderful attitude.

And once you recline it is up to the person behind to behave like an angel even though they cannot get out of their seat. Or God forbid if reclining makes them unconfortable so now they cannot watch the IFE either.

But that is their fault as they should have known that you get what you pay for and should have booked business class instead of down the back with all the cattle....

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Recline just because you can recline. Wonderful attitude.

And once you recline it is up to the person behind to behave like an angel even though they cannot get out of their seat. Or God forbid if reclining makes them unconfortable so now they cannot watch the IFE either.

But that is their fault as they should have known that you get what you pay for and should have booked business class instead of down the back with all the cattle....

I knew you were eminently sensible JohnK.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Recline just because you can recline. Wonderful attitude.

And once you recline it is up to the person behind to behave like an angel even though they cannot get out of their seat. Or God forbid if reclining makes them unconfortable so now they cannot watch the IFE either.

But that is their fault as they should have known that you get what you pay for and should have booked business class instead of down the back with all the cattle....

hit the nail on the head!! they buy economy, they should expect to put up with economy class conditions. the person being reclined on is also free to recline allowing them the same space to watch IFE if they want.

being tall myself, there is absolutely no excuse for knees going into the back of the seat in front. you can adjust your sitting position so your legs are angled straight downwards and go under the seat in front.

people don't recline 'just because they can' they recline because it makes them more comfortable. to suggest passengers recline for the sake of it fits perfectly with my hypothesis that some anti recliners feel they are being threatened or intimidated (ie they are a victim). why? because they assume the only reason someone would recline is to cause discomfort.... when in fact that's simply not the case.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

"I would like to buy a red e-deal fare, and have QF keep a 6 seat radius free, that way, I can behave like a complete tool with my legs and feet all over the seats like the slob I am and disregard all other passengers." will be next.

 

[straitman]

I will use whichever toilet I feel like unless of course the cabin crew tell me to use another.

The CSM does tell you on every flight as part of their briefing :!:

 

[JohnK]

The CSM does tell you on every flight as part of their briefing :!:

And when economy passengers use the front toilet and do not get turned back what does that tell you?

 

[straitman]

And when economy passengers use the front toilet and do not get turned back what does that tell you?

Irrelevant IMHO.

You stated you would use the front toilet unless told not to do so. You get told not to do so each and every flight.

 

[FrustratedQP]

And when economy passengers use the front toilet and do not get turned back what does that tell you?

And when Pax who are not entitled to use the premium boarding lane aren't turned back, what does that tell you?????

 

[The Rok]

And when economy passengers use the front toilet and do not get turned back what does that tell you?

That the FA's are sick of having to speak to rude, arrogant and ignorant passengers who refuse to listen to crew orders!

 

[ajw373]

being tall myself, there is absolutely no excuse for knees going into the back of the seat in front. you can adjust your sitting position so your legs are angled straight downwards and go under the seat in front.

So what happens when your legs get tired and you want to adjust them or stretch them a little and in the process your knees bump the seat in front?

 

[legroom]

That the FA's are sick of having to speak to rude, arrogant and ignorant passengers who refuse to listen to crew orders!

I have been told by some FA friends that this is their single most unpleasant feature of their job: passengers who disobey instructions.

Yes, that includes those whose stance is 'I will do whatever I like until I am told to stop'

Very kindy-like IMHO

 

[Aussie_flyer]

And when economy passengers use the front toilet and do not get turned back what does that tell you?

You will fit in beautifully on Tiger. Please stay there with your I can do whatever I wish attitude. I suppose you use your phone in flight too in breach of announcements?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

So what happens when your legs get tired and you want to adjust them or stretch them a little and in the process your knees bump the seat in front?

different scenario to the deliberate kicking of seats or knees in back of seats that some advocate on here.

 

[JohnK]

You will fit in beautifully on Tiger. Please stay there with your I can do whatever I wish attitude. I suppose you use your phone in flight too in breach of announcements?

You know so little about me yet you are the first to judge.

You take your ownership of the front toilet to heart. I could not care any less. In fact I use the front toilet when I am boarding so I do not need to use it later. If I do need to use a toilet during the flight then I walk down the back and try to squeeze in an extra beer in the process. And on countless occasions I have been encouraged by CSM to use the front toilet. So much for breaching instructions.

And for your information I am one of the best possible travellers around.

- My phone is switched off and stays off for the majority flight unless I want to look at the time or take photos in which case I switch phone on, look at time or take photos and switch back off again
- I pre-allocate bulkhead or exit row and never, ever, recline
- I am seated in the aisle and lean towards the aisle to ensure the person in the middle seat is not inconvenienced in any way
- I offer total strangers access to lounges
- I am very well dressed at all times when I am travelling (you will never see me in tshirt, shorts and thongs. Ever. Not even in Thailand)
- I am generally well behaved unless you get on the wrong side of me for whatever reason

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Actually you have revealed a lot about yourself here on AFF.

You sound very kind and considerate from your last post. We should be friends!

 

[JohnK]

Actually you have revealed a lot about yourself here on AFF.

What I reveal on an internet forum is only a small portion of myself and some it (such as flight delays) is for entertainment value.

I think we all have some sort of online personality that is not quite what we are in real life. Well at least I do and I would hope some of the people who have met me think the same.

 

[jetlagger]

That the FA's are sick of having to speak to rude, arrogant and ignorant passengers who refuse to listen to crew orders!

I am led to believe that this summarisation, somehow comprises of around at least 65% of the JQ passengers in 2013*
(stats.open to interpretation- JQ FA 's interviewed, out of aircraft confines)

 

[FrustratedQP]

Hey Red Roo, I see you're back from Easter Hols, I hope you had a good break. I posted these questions without taking into account that you were probably away, sorry. How about a response please