Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[flychrisfly]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I used the information in this thread (thanks to all the contributors!) and just booked a trip in Jul/Aug 2012 online.

SYD-(HKG)-YVR // YYZ-(JFK)-(HEL)-ARN-(HEL)-LHR // DUB-BUD-(FRA)-SYD

But I need to purchase YVR-YYZ and LON-DUB separately, as there are either no availability or no direct/convenient flights.

So that's about 30,000 miles at a cost of 140,000 points and $1267.34 for taxes, etc in whY. Wish I had more points...

Any idea why this Gold member cannot pick a seat for free on the QF6 flight from FRA to SYD?

 

[dajop]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

You need to use at least 3 different carriers e.g. CX, BA, QF, AA

Technically this is not quite correct, you need to use at least 2 different non-QF carriers, so you could do a oneworld award purely on CX and AA, for example.

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

But I need to purchase YVR-YYZ and LON-DUB separately, as there are either no availability or no direct/convenient flights.

For LON-DUB on One World you need to go LON-MAD-DUB or via the US; at least that's how it was for me last year. May not be convenient but we got a 23.5 hour transit in MAD which we made the most of.

JV

 

[kezsco]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I have been looking at the 280k (didn't it used to be 270k??) J RTW fare. I have looked at some of the sample itineraries and understand a fair bit. However, most itineraries include the US. I wonder, is it possible to do the RTW going to Asia, Europe, South America and then across to Australia.

Starting and finishing in Sydney, thinking of itinerary that includes Honk Kong, perhaps Madrid (to make it easy to get to Sth America - and cheaper than LHR), to Brazil - Santiago then return to Sydney. IT doesn't go over the 16 sectors, but does this go over 35,000 miles?

If it does go over the 35,000 miles, then happy to drop off Europe. DOes anyone know of a way to get to Sth America from Honk Kong via Africa? e.g CX to JNB and then JNB to somewhere in Sth America using LAN? or is this just wishful thinking?

Why isn't it possible to find a J seat back from EZE? As a WP, if I called would they release two J seats for me?

cheers

 

[flychrisfly]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I have been looking at the 280k (didn't it used to be 270k??) J RTW fare. I have looked at some of the sample itineraries and understand a fair bit. However, most itineraries include the US. I wonder, is it possible to do the RTW going to Asia, Europe, South America and then across to Australia.

Starting and finishing in Sydney, thinking of itinerary that includes Honk Kong, perhaps Madrid (to make it easy to get to Sth America - and cheaper than LHR), to Brazil - Santiago then return to Sydney. IT doesn't go over the 16 sectors, but does this go over 35,000 miles?

If it does go over the 35,000 miles, then happy to drop off Europe. DOes anyone know of a way to get to Sth America from Honk Kong via Africa? e.g CX to JNB and then JNB to somewhere in Sth America using LAN? or is this just wishful thinking?

cheers

Hi kezco

I think you are getting a couple of offers mixed up. The 280K in J fare is a oneworld award fare. This has a 35000 mile and a 5 stop (ie stop somewhere for > 24 hours) limit though with unlimited flights. The oneworld explorer has the 16 flight limit but no mileage limit and you pay by the continent.

Assuming you want to use points then you can suss out flights on oneworld.com to see where the oneworld airlines fly, then jump on Qantas.com to check the availability of the one-way sectors then, once you've worked it all out, put it together in a single booking.

I had a quick look and can't see how to get from Sth Africa to Sth America without stops in Europe or N America.

Good luck!

 

[flychrisfly]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I have been looking at the 280k (didn't it used to be 270k??) J RTW fare. I have looked at some of the sample itineraries and understand a fair bit. However, most itineraries include the US. I wonder, is it possible to do the RTW going to Asia, Europe, South America and then across to Australia.

Starting and finishing in Sydney, thinking of itinerary that includes Honk Kong, perhaps Madrid (to make it easy to get to Sth America - and cheaper than LHR), to Brazil - Santiago then return to Sydney. IT doesn't go over the 16 sectors, but does this go over 35,000 miles?

If it does go over the 35,000 miles, then happy to drop off Europe. DOes anyone know of a way to get to Sth America from Honk Kong via Africa? e.g CX to JNB and then JNB to somewhere in Sth America using LAN? or is this just wishful thinking?

Why isn't it possible to find a J seat back from EZE? As a WP, if I called would they release two J seats for me?

cheers

PS: This website will give you mileage calculations between airports (example provided).

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I have been looking at the 280k (didn't it used to be 270k??) J RTW fare. I have looked at some of the sample itineraries and understand a fair bit. However, most itineraries include the US. I wonder, is it possible to do the RTW going to Asia, Europe, South America and then across to Australia.

Starting and finishing in Sydney, thinking of itinerary that includes Honk Kong, perhaps Madrid (to make it easy to get to Sth America - and cheaper than LHR), to Brazil - Santiago then return to Sydney. IT doesn't go over the 16 sectors, but does this go over 35,000 miles?

If it does go over the 35,000 miles, then happy to drop off Europe. DOes anyone know of a way to get to Sth America from Honk Kong via Africa? e.g CX to JNB and then JNB to somewhere in Sth America using LAN? or is this just wishful thinking?

Why isn't it possible to find a J seat back from EZE? As a WP, if I called would they release two J seats for me?

cheers

We came back MAD-HAV-MEX-SCL-SYD (via Auckland). I was SG at the time and the service desk @ QF arranged for the J seats SCL-SYD to be released for us. If you book a reasonable time ahead and are flexible with dates, I am confident that as a WP you would get seats released. JV

 

[kezsco]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Wow, awesome website. And very impressed how far 35,000 miles can take me! Yes, would use points to do it.

thanks, time for more study.

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Wow, awesome website. And very impressed how far 35,000 miles can take me! Yes, would use points to do it.

thanks, time for more study.

If you are WP, give the Platinum desk a call (131211) and see what's available; they don't charge until you actually make a booking and they can see a lot more options than we can on the One World site. JV

 

[kezsco]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Thanks JV, will do.

 

[Alanslegal]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

We came back MAD-HAV-MEX-SCL-SYD (via Auckland).

So the OW awards will allow a stop in HAV? I am assuming that I would not be allowed to have any US port as part of the OW award itinerary though.

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

So the OW awards will allow a stop in HAV? I am assuming that I would not be allowed to have any US port as part of the OW award itinerary though.

We flew on a RTW award on points in J (280,000 each), + taxes in July 2010. We first went to Europe via HKG and had a number of flights there. When we left Europe we went from MAD to HAV with IB. Two reasons: 1) I didn't wnat to go via the US and 2) I wanted to see Cuba before Castro drops off his perch.

From Cuba we flew to MEX with Mexicana and LAN MEX-SCL-SYD (Via Auckland). Unfortunately, with the demise of Mexicana, the HAV-MEX is no longer. But I understand you can now go from Havana to BCN with IB (but you have to go via MAD; might work on an award ticket but I haven't tried to book this one myself).

And NO, you cannot put the US and Cuba on the same itinerary; The Yanks will cancel your ticket.

JV

 

[Alanslegal]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

thanks for the detailed reply JV

 

[chiana675]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Something to note about these long award flights. With a oneWorld Explorer, after you take the first flight, everything is flexible. But with an award flight, if you miss one departure, the rest of the itinerary is wiped.

I have just booked a oneworld award CBR-SYD-LAX-ASE stop DFW-YVR stop JFK stop HKG stop MEL-CBR. After reading above comments I was concerned about this type of fare. I specifically asked about changes to the itinerary. The very helpful agent told me that changes would cost me 3500 points + $80. If I cancel I would be charged 5000 points and the balance would be recreditied to my FF account along with the fee and charges back to my credit card. I am very happy with the fare and the routing and the costs to change if necessary.

 

[serfty]

I have just booked a oneworld award CBR-SYD-LAX-ASE stop DFW-YVR stop JFK stop HKG stop MEL-CBR. After reading above comments I was concerned about this type of fare. I specifically asked about changes to the itinerary. The very helpful agent told me that changes would cost me 3500 points + $80. If I cancel I would be charged 5000 points and the balance would be recreditied to my FF account along with the fee and charges back to my credit card. I am very happy with the fare and the routing and the costs to change if necessary.

Nice routing.

What the agent told you is correct - until you take the first flight.

See section 14.7: Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Terms & Conditions

 

[Kendall Roy]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Just booked my first OW Award in J. Pretty happy with the value @ 280K points and sub $1K taxes.... only downside was CX/Dragon short haul flights to Vietnam are not in J as they apparently don't release seats until closer to the day.

SYD-SCL-LIM(stop)-MIA-YYZ(stop/ground)-JFK-LAX(stop)-SAN-LHR(stop/ground)-AMS-HKG-SGN-(stop/ground)-HAN-HKG-SIN-SYD = 34533 miles

Thanks AFFers

 

[sarvowinner]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Finally got my daughter to commit to an itinerary so booked in Y MXP-MAD-Stop ORY Stop YYZ Stop-LAX-Stop BNE Stop-HKG-Stop FRA Stop-LHR
I thought it would automatically include the flight back to Milan but the points bounced up from 140k to 209k when I added it.

 

[N860CR]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

This is probably one of my not-so-smart questions, but it's worth asking! Say I booked, for instance BKK-HKG-LHR on the One World ticket with a <24 hour stop in HKG (so it doesn't count as a "Stop"), could I call after the ticket has been issued and pay the change fee to move the LHR leg back a few days, hence creating a longer stop in HKG? Or will it pickup that I've broken the fare rules?

 

[flychrisfly]

MXP-MAD-Stop ORY Stop YYZ Stop-LAX-Stop BNE Stop-HKG-Stop FRA Stop-LHR.

I thought 5 stops was the max for the Oneworld award fare? Were any of your stops less than 24 hours or did you find a flaw in the booking engine?

 

[sarvowinner]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I thought 5 stops was the max for the Oneworld award fare? Were any of your stops less than 24 hours or did you find a flaw in the booking engine?

I was surprised as well - the HKG "stop" is over 24 hours - may be they treated it as a connection?
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