Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi all,

After more than 1 year of planning, my RTW trip will start this Thursday!

CBR/BNE/NRT - stopover in Tokyo/Kyoto/Osaka
NRT/HKG - 20h in Hong Kong
HKG/BOS - stopover in Boston
BOS/LHR/ATH - 15h in London, stopover in Athens, Mykonos and Santorini
ATH/PRG - 'surface sector' on Aegean, stopover in PRG
PRG/TXL - 23h in Berlin
TXL/VIE - 12h in Vienna
VIE/HEL - stopover in Helsinki
HEL/CPH - 26h in Copenhagen (it was <24h, but Qatar changed the flight to DOH)
CPH/DOH/BKK - stopover in BKK
BKK/SIN/MEL/CBR

However, it may not start well, as 'The largest strike in the public sector's two year industrial battle is set to disrupt the Easter travel plans of thousands of travellers across Australia'! :(

I'm leaving on the exact day the strike is supposed to happen...

I rang Qantas, asking if there's anything they/me could do to minimise any chances of delays. They said there's nothing that can be done at the moment; based on previous experiences, my flights CBR/BNE/NRT shouldn't be affected much.

What if they DO get affected? Who is responsible for eventual expenses (meals/hotels/alternative transportation)? Qantas? My travel insurance? The Unions? Mr. Turnball?

If anyone is interested, I'll be posting photos on Instagram (@WORLD_EXPLORER2016) and Twitter (@W_Explorer2016).

Cheers

Qantas and/or your travel insurance will make sure you get to your destination. Just make sure it's not your own fault you miss a flight!
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Thu 24 March - Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane, Cairns
Fingers crossed for you. I'm 30 March out of SYD :(
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Thu 24 March - Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane, Cairns
Fingers crossed for you. I'm 30 March out of SYD :(

I am not sure what your post means, but I welcome you to AFF regardless. :)
You must be Finnish with a name like that?
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Thu 24 March - Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane, Cairns
Fingers crossed for you. I'm 30 March out of SYD :(

I am not sure what your post means, but I welcome you to AFF regardless. :)
You must be Finnish with a name like that?

I think Eija is referring to the industrial action at the airport :(
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi all. It's been awhile since I posted about my 2 x 280 k awards that are currently underway (MEL-HKG-JFK (1), JFK-MAD-BCN (2), FRA-HKG-AKL (3), AKL-SYD-ADL (4 - CURRENT POSITION), ADL-DRW-ADL-MEL (5).

Just wanted to share that I rang up QF today to modify our DRW-ADL return date and also to cancel the ADL-MEL leg, as we'll be finishing in Adelaide (there is some discussion on this far back in the thread - basically, when I booked these flights, QF advised we needed to physically travel back to our starting departure city of MEL, even though we only want to get to ADL).

I was able to easily change the DRW-ADL return date, but absurdly, they cannot cancel the 2 final ADL-MEL J flights. Even when I explained that we would not be taking them, the operator just shrugged and said that it could not be done. Crazy... will need to ring ahead and let them know we'll be no shows, I guess.
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I can zee zem goose-ztepping you back onto ze plane...
 
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re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi All in the business of planning and I have one quick question if I may. Assuming a flight arrives at 9.25pm and the next flight leaves at 9.25 pm 24 hours later, will this count as a stop over or not ?

One World's terms indicate that a stop over is "when a passenger arrives at an intermediate point and is not scheduled to depart within 24 hours of arrival". I can't work out whether this means equal to or less than 24 hours or less than 24 hours. Search and Google are driving me nuts looking for a definitive answer.
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi All in the business of planning and I have one quick question if I may. Assuming a flight arrives at 9.25pm and the next flight leaves at 9.25 pm 24 hours later, will this count as a stop over or not ?

One World's terms indicate that a stop over is "when a passenger arrives at an intermediate point and is not scheduled to depart within 24 hours of arrival". I can't work out whether this means equal to or less than 24 hours or less than 24 hours. Search and Google are driving me nuts looking for a definitive answer.


It's a stopover - can't go over 23hr 59min
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I was able to easily change the DRW-ADL return date, but absurdly, they cannot cancel the 2 final ADL-MEL J flights. Even when I explained that we would not be taking them, the operator just shrugged and said that it could not be done. Crazy... will need to ring ahead and let them know we'll be no shows, I guess.

It's because dropping ADL-MEL means a ticket reissue is required which cannot be done on awards after departure. Just leave it alone and don't show up and don't check in. If you don't check in you'll be disregarded anyway.
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi all, does anyone know if a OW affiliate counts as a separate airline from its parent for the purposes of meeting the "two airlines other than QF" rule? EG. if an itinerary only included QF, CX and Dragonair, would it be valid?
TIA
 
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re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi all, does anyone know if a OW affiliate counts as a separate airline from its parent for the purposes of meeting the "two airlines other than QF" rule? EG. if an itinerary only included QF, CX and Dragonair, would it be valid?
TIA

Affiliate airlines are not automatically OW airlines - each airline must be separately included as a OW airline. Parent airlines may have both OW and non OW affiliates. So the answer to your question is that affiliates do qualify as separate airlines under the "two airlines other than QF rule".
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Affiliate airlines are not automatically OW airlines - each airline must be separately included as a OW airline. Parent airlines may have both OW and non OW affiliates. So the answer to your question is that affiliates do qualify as separate airlines under the "two airlines other than QF rule".

I would have thought it all depended on the actual flight code?
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Apologies, this has most likely been answered previously (Shakespeare, monkeys, etc.), if I want to book 2 x J RTW 280k rewards using different FF accounts, will the consultant waive the phone booking fee? I've found the flights I want online, but without doing the family transfers (i.e. 3 x 100,000 point transfers on one day), I don't have enough points in one account.
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

A side one to this, I am also confused whether you need to do a family transfer to have the exact points in your own account or qantas can pool at the time of booking. I have booked 3xJ RTW rewards twice for the family. First time, the operator just combined our accounts (would not have been able to family transfer as 300,000+ in my wife's account), second time operator said oh you don't have enough points you need to transfer 58,000pts to redeem the 3 Js. Which I could. Clarification would be highly appreciated. Currently have capability for 2x J RTW split 50:50 each account and need to accumulate for my daughter's ticket.
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Personally I think if you can it would be worthwhile having all the points in one account. Just makes it easier and the booking will be all on the one PNR.
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

In both instances the RTW was covered under the one PNR.
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Apologies, this has most likely been answered previously (Shakespeare, monkeys, etc.), if I want to book 2 x J RTW 280k rewards using different FF accounts, will the consultant waive the phone booking fee? I've found the flights I want online, but without doing the family transfers (i.e. 3 x 100,000 point transfers on one day), I don't have enough points in one account.

They are meant to charge a fee, whether they waive it for you will just depend. I doubt there's a hard and fast rule.

But, If you've found the flights online, any reason you won't just book the flight online and then add flights over the phone?

Also, why not just do the family transfer?
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

A side one to this, I am also confused whether you need to do a family transfer to have the exact points in your own account or qantas can pool at the time of booking. I have booked 3xJ RTW rewards twice for the family. First time, the operator just combined our accounts (would not have been able to family transfer as 300,000+ in my wife's account), second time operator said oh you don't have enough points you need to transfer 58,000pts to redeem the 3 Js. Which I could. Clarification would be highly appreciated. Currently have capability for 2x J RTW split 50:50 each account and need to accumulate for my daughter's ticket.

By the sounds of it, they are able to work things out on their end at the time of booking. But you are relying on the QFF Centre.

Personally, I'd be transferring points early and regularly so that one account holds the points whereever possible. Just my view though.
 
re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I booked a RWT last year using 140,000 points, plus taxes. It is easiest to phone Qantas and inquire then if you follow there instructions you may be able to book on line or if you get a nice staff member they may waiver the booking fee. We went Townsville, Shanghai, flew from Beijing to Prague the Copenhagen to Rome, Rome Hong Kong then Hong Kong Townsville. Taxes were about $800
Gwen
 

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