Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[adelee]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

A quick question. My husband and I are considering leaving our daughter at home for the final 3 night ADL-DRW-ADL segment of our OW booking. Our daughter is tied to my seat booking as a lap infant. Is anyone able to clarify the impact of this - i.e. would a lap infant no show void the remaining segments for all 3 pax under the booking number (no good for us), or just for the infant (this is fine)? I have consulted the terms and conditions, but it's not clear to me. Many thanks.

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

A side one to this, I am also confused whether you need to do a family transfer to have the exact points in your own account or qantas can pool at the time of booking. I have booked 3xJ RTW rewards twice for the family. First time, the operator just combined our accounts (would not have been able to family transfer as 300,000+ in my wife's account), second time operator said oh you don't have enough points you need to transfer 58,000pts to redeem the 3 Js. Which I could. Clarification would be highly appreciated. Currently have capability for 2x J RTW split 50:50 each account and need to accumulate for my daughter's ticket.

Having booked a few of these for self and friends, my understanding is that you need sufficient points in either one account (560k) or enough for each award in separate accounts (2 accounts with at least 280k each).

Put another way:
one account with 560k+ points = no problem
two accounts with 280k+ points = no problem
one account with 500,000 points and another account with 200,000 points = no go; points transfer required.

I can't point (pardon pun) to anything in the T & C's on this; just talking from past experience.

JV

 

[aussiel]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Having booked a few of these for self and friends, my understanding is that you need sufficient points in either one account (560k) or enough for each award in separate accounts (2 accounts with at least 280k each).

Put another way:
one account with 560k+ points = no problem
two accounts with 280k+ points = no problem
one account with 500,000 points and another account with 200,000 points = no go; points transfer required.

I can't point (pardon pun) to anything in the T & C's on this; just talking from past experience.

JV

Thanks JV, this seems fair. I guess my options then, are to transfer 250k (using 3/4 family transfers for the year) from account 1 to account 2, so all 560k points are in account 2, and book online. The other option is transfer 30k points from account 2 to account 1, and book over the phone, incurring the award booking fee.

 

[vetrade]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Thanks JV, this seems fair. I guess my options then, are to transfer 250k (using 3/4 family transfers for the year) from account 1 to account 2, so all 560k points are in account 2, and book online. The other option is transfer 30k points from account 2 to account 1, and book over the phone, incurring the award booking fee.

My understanding is that family transfers are capped at 100K points per transfer but there is no time restriction - so you could transfer 100K points on 3 consecutive days if you wanted to.

 

[vosadrian]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi All,

Thinking of making some changes to the itinerary. Thinking of changing the leg out of France to leave Nice instead of Paris. I went into my booking and selected change, and it seems to only allow me to change the date there. Not sure I can do this online, so after some advice. Really I am just after the cheapest way to make changes like this. Can I do this online, or am I going to have to make a call and pay 8000 points per person?

Cheers,

Adrian

Here is the current itinerary:

View attachment 66849

 

[vetrade]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi All,

Thinking of making some changes to the itinerary. Thinking of changing the leg out of France to leave Nice instead of Paris. I went into my booking and selected change, and it seems to only allow me to change the date there. Not sure I can do this online, so after some advice. Really I am just after the cheapest way to make changes like this. Can I do this online, or am I going to have to make a call and pay 8000 points per person?

Cheers,

Adrian

No changes online - they all have to go through the call centre, in which case change fees do apply.

 

[vosadrian]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Thanks Vetrade. So is that 8000 points per person per change or can I do a bunch of changes for the 8000 points? If I can do multiple changes, I may make a few other changes at the same time.

 

[vetrade]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Thanks Vetrade. So is that 8000 points per person per change or can I do a bunch of changes for the 8000 points? If I can do multiple changes, I may make a few other changes at the same time.

It seems you are on a Y award so it's 8000 points per person each time you make a change/s - 8000 pts pp per call not 8000 pts per change. Make 4 additions or changes during a single call and it will cost 8000 pts pp.

 

[travelislife]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

It seems you are on a Y award so it's 8000 points per person each time you make a change/s - 8000 pts pp per call not 8000 pts per change. Make 4 additions or changes during a single call and it will cost 8000 pts pp.

I think you are also meant to have to pay the $60 telephone fee on top as well? But should be able to argue your way out of that one.

 

[vetrade]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I think you are also meant to have to pay the $60 telephone fee on top as well? But should be able to argue your way out of that one.

Pretty sure the change fee is 3500 pts pp and the extra 4500 points is the optional way of paying the cash cost. J pax only get charged the 3500 pts pp with no call fee.

 

[travelislife]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Pretty sure the change fee is 3500 pts pp and the extra 4500 points is the optional way of paying the cash cost. J pax only get charged the 3500 pts pp with no call fee.

Ah ok. Having a re-read I thought it was 3,500 points change fee and 8,000 points service fee for over the phone.

https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/program/terms#jump24

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

My understanding is that family transfers are capped at 100K points per transfer but there is no time restriction - so you could transfer 100K points on 3 consecutive days if you wanted to.

I have a friend who tells me he recently did 3 x 100k transfers on the same day, within a few minutes of each other.

Haven't tried it myself.

 

[hutch]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Ah ok. Having a re-read I thought it was 3,500 points change fee and 8,000 points service fee for over the phone.

https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/program/terms#jump24

Noting that is a per passenger fee. So it's 11,500 per pax, or 3,500pts plus $80 per pax for an economy ticket.

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Am trying to remember whether the 17 sector rule applies to award tickets, the same as it does to paid tickets?

Also, do surface sectors count as part of the 17?

 

[vetrade]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Am trying to remember whether the 17 sector rule applies to award tickets, the same as it does to paid tickets?

Also, do surface sectors count as part of the 17?

It's 16 sectors and surface sectors are included in that 16.

 

[madrooster]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

It's 16 sectors and surface sectors are included in that 16.

I'll also add that co-located airports also contribute to the surface segments. Eg. ZRH-LHR then LCY-AMS counts as 3 segments.

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

It's 16 sectors and surface sectors are included in that 16.

I'll also add that co-located airports also contribute to the surface segments. Eg. ZRH-LHR then LCY-AMS counts as 3 segments.

Thanks team,

Always trying to push the boundaries of the envelope.

 

[Boca68]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hello all,
currently in the planning stages of J OW RTW. Wishing to start April/May next year. It occured to me the other day, whilst I have sufficient points atm, just clocked over 280k, as the bookings need to be staggered due release dates of award seats I'm imagining there will come a point where I've used the points I have, but have not finished the RTW booking.
For examples sake, say I've booked 6 or 7 sectors in J, I would have used close to the 280k I would think, with bookings still to come. So, my question is, is it necessary to make my intentions of a OW RTW clear to QF (in this case) so I can make the remaining award bookings? Or am I over thinking this too much?
Hoping someone with experience booking this can advise me of this eventuality and the processes involved. Thanks.

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hello all,
currently in the planning stages of J OW RTW. Wishing to start April/May next year. It occured to me the other day, whilst I have sufficient points atm, just clocked over 280k, as the bookings need to be staggered due release dates of award seats I'm imagining there will come a point where I've used the points I have, but have not finished the RTW booking.
For examples sake, say I've booked 6 or 7 sectors in J, I would have used close to the 280k I would think, with bookings still to come. So, my question is, is it necessary to make my intentions of a OW RTW clear to QF (in this case) so I can make the remaining award bookings? Or am I over thinking this too much?
Hoping someone with experience booking this can advise me of this eventuality and the processes involved. Thanks.

Easiest option would be to just close out the award ticket by putting in a return sector to your place of origin, thus making it 280k points. When the remainder of your desired flights open up, ring and make the changes (and pay the 3,500 points change fee).

JV

 

[hutch]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hello all,
currently in the planning stages of J OW RTW. Wishing to start April/May next year. It occured to me the other day, whilst I have sufficient points atm, just clocked over 280k, as the bookings need to be staggered due release dates of award seats I'm imagining there will come a point where I've used the points I have, but have not finished the RTW booking.
For examples sake, say I've booked 6 or 7 sectors in J, I would have used close to the 280k I would think, with bookings still to come. So, my question is, is it necessary to make my intentions of a OW RTW clear to QF (in this case) so I can make the remaining award bookings? Or am I over thinking this too much?
Hoping someone with experience booking this can advise me of this eventuality and the processes involved. Thanks.

Assuming you have a compliant booking, once the cost of your flights reach the 280K mark, it will cap out at 280k. The remaining flights will cost no points and you just pay tax.

You can certainly advise QF what your intentions are, but its not necessary. You need to be booking on the same PNR.