Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[randomly_chaotic]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Emirates aren't a OneWorld member - that's probably your issue. Try to find a BA or Qantas service from LHR-MEL

Ah, thanks. I assumed that since they'd partnered with Qantas, it would be sweet.

 

[dalereardon]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

This will be of benefit to everyone planning a RTW fare:

You can now search, but not book, Qatar redemptions on ba.com

Just remember won't be able to book the awards until they officially start into OneWorld.

Dale.

 

[footy99]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

This will be of benefit to everyone planning a RTW fare:

You can now search, but not book, Qatar redemptions on ba.com

Just remember won't be able to book the awards until they officially start into OneWorld.

Dale.

I don't think Australian residents are able to create an account to search there.

 

[Flashback]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I don't think Australian residents are able to create an account to search there.

Just use a non-AU address.

Here's one:
1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, D.C., DC 20500, United States

 

[jasyoung]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi all. Just a quick question as I am looking at using points to do a rtw next year. If an adult is worth 140,000 points , do children ( Ihave a three year old ) also get charged the full 140,000 or do they only get charged 75% of the points?

 

[k3nnis]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Full 140000 as far as I know.

 

[Grooba]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I thought I was semi experienced with these fares after booking 2 online in the past few years but I cant seem to work out why my tests are going over the 280k for a J award.

I was under the impression that this fare isn't specifically around the works and can be up to 35k miles, 16 segments and 5 stopovers, or close enough to that.

I've been plugging SYD-JNB-HKG-LAX/JFK-HKG-SYD into the tool and I can find J availability all the way. However after HKG-xNRT-LAX leg the mileage is 277k which is great, then the next segment I choose the direct JFK-HKG on CX and the mileage blows out to over 350k points.

Up to getting to LAX I've used QF/CX/AA so I think I've satisfied the 2 carriers other than QF rule.

Can anyone steer me into the right direction as to why the points cost is blowing out? The land segment between LAX/JFK is against the rules somehow?

 

[aikman]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

syd-jnb-hkg-nrt-lax-jfk-hkg-syd in gcmap.com is coming up at 35,914 miles. This could be one reason why it's not working.

 

[Grooba]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Ahh yes you're right.
Silly me.

Thanks aikman.

 

[Nizar]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Guys must you use QF on a 280k award booked through QF ?
Or can I use say QR and MH only ?

I want to book:
QR: CGK-DOH-LHR-AMS(stop),
MH: CDG-KUL-MEL(stop),
QR: MEL*-DOH-MED(stop),JED-DOH-CGK

Comes up to <32k miles 3 stopovers, 12-13 sectors.
*If must use QF, then we will do something like MEL-PER-DOH

Cheers

 

[Princess Fiona]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Guys must you use QF on a 280k award booked through QF ?
Or can I use say QR and MH only ?

I want to book:
QR: CGK-DOH-LHR-AMS(stop),
MH: CDG-KUL-MEL(stop),
QR: MEL*-DOH-MED(stop),JED-DOH-CGK

Comes up to <32k miles 3 stopovers, 12-13 sectors.
*If must use QF, then we will do something like MEL-PER-DOH

Cheers

No you don't need to use QF, must use at least two carriers other than QF IIRC

 

[zainman]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Guys must you use QF on a 280k award booked through QF ?
Or can I use say QR and MH only ?

I want to book:
QR: CGK-DOH-LHR-AMS(stop),
MH: CDG-KUL-MEL(stop),
QR: MEL*-DOH-MED(stop),JED-DOH-CGK

Comes up to <32k miles 3 stopovers, 12-13 sectors.
*If must use QF, then we will do something like MEL-PER-DOH

Cheers

AFAIK you don't have to use QF, two other carriers are fine.

 

[Flashback]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

AFAIK you don't have to use QF, two other carriers are fine.

Hmmm, OK. I always thought it was QF and 2 other OW carriers. I could be wrong though! I'm sure a quick squizz at the T&C would sort it out

 

[zainman]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hmmm, OK. I always thought it was QF and 2 other OW carriers. I could be wrong though! I'm sure a quick squizz at the T&C would sort it out

The oneworld[SUP][SUP]®[/SUP][/SUP] Award Classic Award table is based on return flights, unlike the Qantas Award table.
This oneworld Classic Award table only applies when your Award itinerary includes at least two oneworld alliance airlines other than Qantas. The itinerary may not contain non-oneworld airlines otherwise the travel planner of each individual airline will apply. Qantas flights operated by Jetstar Airways (QF200-299 and QF4950-QF5999) cannot be included in oneworld Awards*.

You could be right.

 

[serfty]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

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You could be right.

Nup - A QFF oneworld award does not need to include any QF flights. While this is also answered up thread, see here:
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Please review the following items

• Your points balance is less than the minimum points needed for this itinerary. Total minimum points needed are 140,000 for all passengers.

Check your itinerary and read and accept our terms and conditions before you continue.
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Terminal Information Qantas flights QF1 - QF399 depart from and arrive at the International Terminals. All other Qantas flights depart from and arrive at the Domestic Terminals.



[h=2]Important Fare Information[/h] If you have a disability or medical condition and need assistance, or require two seats for yourself, call your local Qantas office or send us an e-mail.

• oneworld Conditions

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• From London (Heathrow) to Helsinki AY3126
• From Helsinki to New York (JFK) AY5
• From New York (JFK) to Hong Kong CX831
• From Hong Kong to London (Heathrow) BA28

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[TD="class: sideText, width: 580"]A oneworld® Award contains:
- a Qantas flight and at least two other oneworld® carrier flights, or
- if there is no Qantas flight, two other oneworld® carrier flights.

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• Points and Status credits are not earned on this fare.
• This fare is not eligible for a Flight Upgrade Award.

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• - change to name (not permitted on oneworld® Alliance airlines or Airline Partners)
• - change to class of travel
• - change to any Segment routing (including departure, stopover or destination cities) or airline
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  The following changes require your ticket/s to be revalidated and are permitted up until the commencement of travel:
• - change to flight number
• - change to date of travel,
• provided that a change to name, class of travel or Segment routing or airline is not required.

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  Once travel has commenced you cannot make any changes to:
• - paper tickets
• - electronic tickets where the change would require your ticket to be reissued.
  
  Otherwise, the following changes are permitted:
• - change of the flight number
• - change to date of travel,
  provided that a change to name, class of travel or Segment routing or airline is not required.
  
  If you make a permitted change to your flight number or date of travel after commencement of travel, your ticket will require ticket revalidation.

Where permitted, changes to a oneworld® Award will incur a Change Fee in points and may require the payment of additional points as well as any difference in the taxes, fees and carrier charges.

Changes to oneworld® Award bookings can be made online at qantas.com/yourbooking or via Qantas Telephone Sales (call your local Qantas office).

For all changes to bookings made over the phone or in person, you must pay a Service Fee applicable as at the date of the change in addition to the Change Fee. For members in Australia and New Zealand a cash option for the Service Fee may also be available. No Service Fee is payable for changes made online.
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In accordance with the US Department of Transportation rules, customers who purchase an Award ticket in the United States may cancel their booking and have their ticket refunded without incurring the Cancellation Refund Fee within 24 hours of ticketing when the ticket was purchased one week or more prior to scheduled departure of the first flight in the itinerary.
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[serfty]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Or to put it to the fore, see the oneworld award rules: www.qantas.com.au/regions/amadeus/minirules/OW/

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[TD="align: left"]A oneworld® Award contains:
- a Qantas flight and at least two other oneworld® carrier flights, or
- if there is no Qantas flight, two other oneworld® carrier flights.

The Award is based on return travel. Mileage is calculated back to the starting point of the trip even if it is one-way.[/TD]
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[zainman]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Or to put it to the fore, see the oneworld award rules: www.qantas.com.au/regions/amadeus/minirules/OW/

[TD="colspan: 2"] oneworld Award [/TD]

[TD="class: description, align: left"] Eligibility [/TD]
[TD="align: left"]A one world® Award contains:
- a Qantas flight and at least two other one world® carrier flights, or
- if there is no Qantas flight, two other one world® carrier flights.

The Award is based on return travel. Mileage is calculated back to the starting point of the trip even if it is one-way.[/TD]

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Thanks for clarifying that. Yeah that's the bit I read somewhere when I said you didn't need a QF flight

and yes you already did answer it in the thread

 

[fersea]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

After much procrastination I have now booked my 140k award. Taking 27 weeks to go around the world.
Late February - end August 2014


Booked flights are

Canberra - Sydney - Auckland (24 hours) - Qantas
Auckland - Santiago - LAN
Lima - Miami - American Airlines
Toronto - London - British Airways
London - Johannesburg - British Airways
Johannesburg - Hong Kong - Cathay Pacific
Hong Kong - Melbourne - Canberra - Qantas.

 

[Sojourner]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

fersea, how much were taxes?

thanks.

 

[fersea]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Just over $1500 I think. I am not 100% sure because I booked the flights to Santiago back in March and booked the rest yesterday. I think I paid about $450 then and it was $1083 or something yesterday. I think they charged me the $80 on top of that plus 3500 points to change the booking which I had to do over the phone.

I booked a new one for my girlfriend but that was done online. She is not coming to South America, meeting me in Miami. I gave her about 90k points so now she is paying for my new Amex Platinum which includes 80k points.