Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[moa999]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Won't normally become bookable until the date Qatar joins.
This was rumoured to be 1-Oct, but with no announcement only 4 wks out beginning to have my doubts.

 

[Nizar]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Just to confirm, I know this has been discussed before but is it possible to come back (to stop-over for weeks/months) to the COUNTRY of origin but to a different city ?

This is what I had in mind.

CGK-(KUL)-JED*-(KUL)-MEL*-SIN*-SYD*-CGK

CGK-JED on MH, JED-MEL also MH, MEL-SIN on QF, SIN-SYD on BA, SYD-CGK on QF
So three different carriers (MH, QF, BA), four stop-overs and well under 30,000 miles.

Just wondering if that stopover in SYD would be allowed ?

 

[aikman]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Looks ok to me. Your country of origin is Indonesia therefore no restrictions on leaving and returning to Australia.

Now I wonder if QF will make you show your credit card at the Jakarta office within two working days before they issue your award ticket…..

 

[coles525]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Call me dumb, but:

Does anyone know or have a link on how many points QFF will "pay" on specific zones around the world with partner flights?

ie:

Washington to Chicago with AA = 1,702 Miles. (Zone 3 maby?) My reward being ??? QFF points.....

San Francisco to LA = 347 Miles. (Zone 1?)

Edit: also to work out status credits earnt on flights with partners, being all possible classes.....

 

[Nizar]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Now I wonder if QF will make you show your credit card at the Jakarta office within two working days before they issue your award ticket…..

If we do have to do this would it be possible to get the ticket issued long before we take our first scheduled flight ?
The reason I ask is these flights were for my parents, and they are in Jakarta frequently. Actually there right now. So maybe can get it all sorted from now even if travel is to begin in 5-6 months ?

 

[Danger]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Call me dumb, but:

Does anyone know or have a link on how many points QFF will "pay" on specific zones around the world with partner flights?

ie:

Washington to Chicago with AA = 1,702 Miles. (Zone 3 maby?) My reward being ??? QFF points.....

San Francisco to LA = 347 Miles. (Zone 1?)

Edit: also to work out status credits earnt on flights with partners, being all possible classes.....

It all depends on the booking class.

Step 1: find the airline's earning table on the QFF website here.
Step 2: if you're flying in a FF earning class, the next step is to find out the distance between the two cities using a tool like great circle mapper. Once you know the distance you refer back to website's earning table in step one to determine how many FF points you'll earn depending on the fare bucket.
Step 3: then use the QF status credit earning table here to determine how many status credits you'll earn.

So in you're example, Washington (DCA or IAD) to Chicago (ORD) is either 612 miles (DCA) or 589 miles (IAD). (I'm not sure where you get 1702 miles from.) The deep discount Economy fares on AA don't earn anything with AA so you first need to make sure you're in a fare earning class.

 

[coles525]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

It all depends on the booking class.

Step 1: find the airline's earning table on the QFF website here.
Step 2: if you're flying in a FF earning class, the next step is to find out the distance between the two cities using a tool like great circle mapper. Once you know the distance you refer back to website's earning table in step one to determine how many FF points you'll earn depending on the fare bucket.
Step 3: then use the QF status credit earning table here to determine how many status credits you'll earn.

So in you're example, Washington (DCA or IAD) to Chicago (ORD) is either 612 miles (DCA) or 589 miles (IAD). (I'm not sure where you get 1702 miles from.) The deep discount Economy fares on AA don't earn anything with AA so you first need to make sure you're in a fare earning class.

Ive done step 2 on a website (will add it tomorrow), as some of our planned locations are connecting flights...

Ie: buffalo airport is a final destination for either niagara falls or a state park (diamond state park?).

I will also provude some online wording (online booking versions) from "instant upgrade" (from economy fare) to "choice" and maby a few other words.

Trip wont be until next october/november, just waiting and researching from flights, train (NY to Washington : 4hrs) and other stuff (where to go, do, hotels with free wifi....).

Thanks for the info

 

[coles525]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Just went to the aa website and can provide the link with the options on offer (if using an economy fare search atleast...)

http://www.aa.com/intl/fareFamily/yourchoice.jsp

I also phoned aa a few days ago, asking about the codes/fare bucket, but maby didn't understand me.

I was told that all their fares earn ff points..... To find out abiut x y n etc... to do a booking, then it will show when the fare conditions are showing....

 

[JohnK]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Need some help here, if one is booking a OW 140K (or 280K) trip and the trip ENDS in a point that was not the originating port, and then the distance back to the originating port is added to the flight distance, DOES the non flown distance from the last port to the origination port count as an ARK (ARUNK or arrival unknown), as this can effectively reduce the number of stop overs allowed, due to port at BOTH ends of an ARK being counted as a stopover. I tried to explain to the operator but she wasn't having it and said it had to be an ARK to the point of departure. Anybody help here?

Have you had any joy here?

I thought the only thing that was required was your last city in the itinerary (if you do not return to point of origin) will be a stopover and then the distance back to point of origina would also be included.

Have you tried just adding in a sector back to point of origin and then not fly that sector?

 

[orin]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Are RTW flights all classic awards, or are they ASA?

 

[serfty]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Are RTW flights all classic awards, or are they ASA?

Purely Classic!

 

[Nizar]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Guys what is the fee for changing the date of one of the legs of a 280k award ?

Thanks

 

[serfty]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

International Award Change fee + International Service fee is 3500 points + 8000 = 11,500. (or 3500pts + $80)

Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Terms & Conditions

 

[Aussie Doc]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Ok seriously stupid question I'm sure... but in the past I've bene able to plan a RTW trip with points online without any issue... tried to set up a new plan just now for RTW in 2014 with the wife, and can't seem to find the planning website that calcultes the trip in points?

the rtw.oneworld website just gives me a price in AUD and I can't seem to find the planner on the qantas website. Could someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks!

 

[Danger]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Ok seriously stupid question I'm sure... but in the past I've bene able to plan a RTW trip with points online without any issue... tried to set up a new plan just now for RTW in 2014 with the wife, and can't seem to find the planning website that calcultes the trip in points?

the rtw.oneworld website just gives me a price in AUD and I can't seem to find the planner on the qantas website. Could someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks!

Simply select the multi city tool on the QF website and enter your cities and dates that way. Once the critieria have been met, it will convert to a 140k/280k/420k.

 

[Aussie Doc]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Simply select the multi city tool on the QF website and enter your cities and dates that way. Once the critieria have been met, it will convert to a 140k/280k/420k.

Cheers! I obviously didn't go far enough along for it to go to points

 

[Aussie Doc]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

My wife and I are planning a LONE4 trip for next year. Plan is SYD-SIN-KIX-FCO- ground leg to LHR then LHR-JFK-YYC ground leg to YVR then YVR-SYD however this seems to come up as 223k points each in econonomy rather than 140kea.

Any suggestions on what I'm missing here? Happy to start a new thread if people think that'd be more appropriate.

 

[serfty]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

My wife and I are planning a LONE4 trip for next year. Plan is SYD-SIN-KIX-FCO- ground leg to LHR then LHR-JFK-YYC ground leg to YVR then YVR-SYD however this seems to come up as 223k points each in econonomy rather than 140kea.

Any suggestions on what I'm missing here? Happy to start a new thread if people think that'd be more appropriate.

A LONE4 is an economy class "oneworld explorer" revenue fare - but it looks like you are after the Qantas oneworld Award? (And the latter is what this thread is about.)

 

[Aussie Doc]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

A LONE4 is an economy class "oneworld explorer" revenue fare - but it looks like you are after the Qantas oneworld Award? (And the latter is what this thread is about.)

Yes, sorry I mixed up the terminology.

MY question is, baed on qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/usingPoints/pointsTables#jump3 I thought the points required for economy on oneworld award was capped at 140k in economy, but the website is quoting me 223k each?

 

[moa999]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Does the routing qualify for the oneworld explorer (two oneworld airlines other than Qantas?)