Passing away overseas

[cove]

Yes for organ donation you would most likely need to pass away in a hospital.

 

[Lynda2475]

Despite organ donor card, the family can override the deceased wishes to be an organ donor

How pathetic that so called loved ones, would be so disrespectful of the deceased. This should not be allowed, the deceased has documented their wishes, honour that.

 

[RooFlyer]

How pathetic that so called loved ones, would be so disrespectful of the deceased. This should not be allowed, the deceased has documented their wishes, honour that.

Agreed, but I guess its the same as a will. That's contestable, too and be changed / 'overturned' wrt beneficiaries by a court.

 

[Lynda2475]

Agreed, but I guess its the same as a will. That's contestable, too and be changed / 'overturned' wrt beneficiaries by a court.

There needs to be grounds for contesting a will (even if some are questionable), but there is no ongoing impact to a family member if the deceased's liver/kidney/heart get donated to someone in need.

Im happy for my uneeded bits to be donated upon my death, what do i care Im dead, better to help someone else live (or a med student get much needed practice) than to have the usable bits rot in the ground or be burned up. Once im dead thats it, i dont need my body, i also dont need a funeral or cemetary plot.

I hope no one would go to expense of repatriating my body if i died travelling, what a waste. Cremate whats left wherever it happens, sprinkle me in the ocean, dont put me in an urn on a shelf gathering dust.

My will allows for drinks in my memory for those friends who wish to remember me, and specifically diverts any money due to go to family (i have no dependents) if said family go against my wishes and hold a funeral. I am not religious (vocally anti) and if prayers are said or religious rites performed that ignorance will see them get nada.

Of course accidents aside, i fully intend to spend my money before i die.

 

[RooFlyer]

specifically diverts any money due to go to family (i have no dependents) if said family go against my wishes and hold a funeral. I am not religious (vocally anti) and if prayers are said or religious rites performed that ignorance will see them get nada.

I'm sure your wishes will be respected, but your will is not the final say, no matter how worded. I too have 'binding' provisions, but know if the family or beneficiaries don't like it, and they win, they win and there's nothing I can do about it

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There needs to be grounds for contesting a will (even if some are questionable), but there is no ongoing impact to a family member if the deceased's liver/kidney/heart get donated to someone in need.

Well, that's a matter of opinion, but that's OK. I'm sure some people would be terribly upset and affected if they thought their loved one was being 'gutted' by some strange organisation overseas. Wonder if they are helping themselves to other parts? I imagine if someone was affected in that manner, they'd never get over it. YMMMV.

 

[Lynda2475]

but know if the family or beneficiaries don't like it, and they win, they win and there's nothing I can do about it

All the more reason to spend as much as possible before you go!

 

[Quickstatus]

What’s the process of repatriating a deceased?

 

[RB]

All the more reason to spend as much as possible before you go!

There needs to be grounds for contesting a will (even if some are questionable), but there is no ongoing impact to a family member if the deceased's liver/kidney/heart get donated to someone in need.

Im happy for my uneeded bits to be donated upon my death, what do i care Im dead, better to help someone else live (or a med student get much needed practice) than to have the usable bits rot in the ground or be burned up. Once im dead thats it, i dont need my body, i also dont need a funeral or cemetary plot.

I hope no one would go to expense of repatriating my body if i died travelling, what a waste. Cremate whats left wherever it happens, sprinkle me in the ocean, dont put me in an urn on a shelf gathering dust.

My will allows for drinks in my memory for those friends who wish to remember me, and specifically diverts any money due to go to family (i have no dependents) if said family go against my wishes and hold a funeral. I am not religious (vocally anti) and if prayers are said or religious rites performed that ignorance will see them get nada.

Of course accidents aside, i fully intend to spend my money before i die.

Let me know the formula so you don't run out of money too early

 

[UP4014]

How pathetic that so called loved ones, would be so disrespectful of the deceased. This should not be allowed, the deceased has documented their wishes, honour that.

Different people have different reasons on what to do with loved ones, who am I or anyone else to judge except in my own family.

 

[Quickstatus]

would be so disrespectful of the deceased

Sometimes it’s the other way round. And remember the deceased is really in the grace of the living. There is no obligation for the living to respect any of the deceased wishes - the operative word is “wishes”. In life and in death no one can force anyone to do anything. (Carrots notwithstanding)

 

[Lynda2475]

Different people have different reasons on what to do with loved ones, who am I or anyone else to judge except in my own family.

You can make a choice on what you want to happen with your own body or for any minor under your care or for someone you hold power of attorney for who has not explicitly specified a donor choice but no one else.

Going against the documented instructions of the deceased is a low act and shows you did not care for that person, a frankly pathetic choice for selfish reasons imo.

There is no obligation for the living to respect any of the deceased wishes - the operative word is “wishes”. In life and in death no one can force anyone to do anything

There are legal avenues and these can be upheld, the law forces people to do things all the time i.e pay taxes, show ID to leave/enter the country, pay child support etc.

It is important to have a decent lawyer and update will etc whenever circumstances change.

I would say anyone not respecting a legal binding will is graceless. What an absurd sense of self entitlement they must have to demand something they did not earn or to think they know better than the individual concerned.

Disputing the will will just eat up any inheritence in legal fees, lose lose for all except my lawyer who is also my best friend

 

[mrsterryn]

Another vote here for being cremated overseas prior to the remains being brought back to Australia.
If feasible and husband has passed overseas and I wasn't with him I would hopefully be able to go over for the cremation.
Not bringing back a body just to be cremated here in Aust

 

[Quickstatus]

Not bringing back a body just to be cremated here in Aust

…. Improves the carbon emissions in AU

 

[Quickstatus]

There are legal avenues

Only to the extent that somebody agrees to be the executor of the will.
I can see situations where a deceased might be so disliked that no-one will want to be the executor except if lots of money is attached to it.

 

[get me outta here]

Is usually in the Travel Inisurance. Assume, the company arranges it (?)

What’s the process of repatriating a deceased?

 

[Quickstatus]

arranges

Yes but what’s the process?

 

[get me outta here]

Perhaps look at your extant or prev. TI policy. I assume your relos have to organise it the same as they would have to claim the $250,000 death insurance or whatever is in the policy. So need to leave policy details with someone staying home.

Yes but what’s the process?

 

[cove]

I guess some folks would charter a jet or repatriate the body on a commercial airline depending on circumstances. Travel insurance could help.

 

[get me outta here]

Insure&Go : “ Up to $50,000 for the cost of returning your body or ashes to Australia or up to $10,000 for the cost of the funeral and burial expenses in the country in which you die if this is outside Australia”.

Section B1 : https://www.insureandgo.com.au/contents/docs/ig-ms-pw-ot_tcm1005-157834.pdf

 

[Quickstatus]

TI

Insure&Go

Yes, but what’s the actual process…