Passport renewal soon to be online.

[gaz0303]

The new passports are pretty cool. I like the selection of colour landscapes, embossed kangaroos and a plastic data page.

 

[jpp42]

Asked today at the local AusPost. 6 weeks was quote but observed that seems to be a bit sooner...

Mine took only 2 business days to be processed by the passport office, then another 5 for Australia Post to bother to deliver it from the passport office in Sydney to my address also in Sydney...

Children's passports are apparently still taking quite a bit longer. There's a thread on Whirlpool about this with many responses.

 

[Mr H]

Would online renewal mean you no longer have to destroy your old passport?

 

[Ade]

Would online renewal mean you no longer have to destroy your old passport?

Is it mandatory to destroy old passports? or is it a recommendation ?

Reason I ask - some organisations require employees to provide all passports used so far (as long as you have lived or have held a passport) to do checks/clearances/assessments etc? In such cases, if the passport were to be destroyed, how will the organisations conduct their checks?

 

[Mr H]

Is it mandatory to destroy old passports? or is it a recommendation ?

Reason I ask - some organisations require employees to provide all passports used so far (as long as you have lived or have held a passport) to do checks/clearances/assessments etc? In such cases, if the passport were to be destroyed, how will the organisations conduct their checks?

When you go to the post office to renew your passport, they cut off half the front cover and the machine readable code on the photo page. Other countries mutilate old passports in similar fashion by cutting the cover or, in extreme cases, punching holes right through it.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

They will still have to cut out the data page bottom to make the former replaced passport unusable, or to signify its been superseeded.
The only way, as I see it, visually to tell its an old/former passport.
You have to present the former passport to show to get the new one.
Its a pain in the bum to get witnesses, or to show on the renewal, to get someone to sign on your behalf they have known you more than 12 months, yada yada yada, if you have lost your former passport, or can't present it to pick up your new one.
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Online renewal, is where part of the form is prefilled by data that has already been on the DFAT system, for which it can't be amended.
Names/Date of birth/former passport data etc.

 

[Quickstatus]

Its a pain in the bum to get witnesses, or to show on the renewal, to get someone to sign on your behalf they have known you more than 12 months, yada yada yada, if you have lost your former passport, or can't present it to pick up your new one.

As it should be

They will still have to cut out the data page bottom to make the former replaced passport unusable, or to signify its been superseeded.

They don't. Most passports these days are machine readable. Easy to detect an expired passport. Easy enough to cut out the data section yourself once you received the passport, but not necessary

 

[dylarr]

When I renewed my passport recently the AusPost staff member told me they had recently been issued a directive from DFAT to no longer cut the old passport and to return it to the customer intact.

 

[blackcat20]

When you go to the post office to renew your passport, they cut off half the front cover and the machine readable code on the photo page. Other countries mutilate old passports in similar fashion by cutting the cover or, in extreme cases, punching holes right through it.

They don't anymore.

 

[Quickstatus]

Why not just embed the passport microchip in the head... do it once, then every 10 years rescan it to update info. Should then be free.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Re: Quickstatus's reply, that would rile up the people who feel its an intrusion, to no end.
Remember when there was talk of the Australia Card, a lot of people at that time didn't agree with it.
Even these days, there is a still a certain number of the Australia population that does a spoilt vote on the election slip, even though that slip itself does not list the name of that individual voter.
A lot of people feel the rights of the Australian citizen is infringed all the time.
Sovereign Citizen, and all that,

 

[Mr H]

Re: Quickstatus's reply, that would rile up the people who feel its an intrusion, to no end.
Remember when there was talk of the Australia Card, a lot of people at that time didn't agree with it.
Even these days, there is a still a certain number of the Australia population that does a spoilt vote on the election slip, even though that slip itself does not list the name of that individual voter.
A lot of people feel the rights of the Australian citizen is infringed all the time.
Sovereign Citizen, and all that,

I can’t believe anyone would seriously object to the implanting of microchips. Our cats and dogs have been microchipped for years.

 

[Quickstatus]

Passport chip in head
No lost passport- unless head goes missing
No damaged or defaced passport
Can go swimming with it

They already got your info on the chip. Why carry it separately.

 

[Mr H]

Passport chip in head
No lost passport- unless head goes missing
No damaged or defaced passport
Can go swimming with it

They already got your info on the chip. Why carry it separately.

Agreed. And it would also stop begpackers selling their passports for $300 when they run out of cash overseas. Double plus good.

 

[jpp42]

No lost passport- unless head goes missing

My partner regularly tells me I've lost my mind, so that may be a difficult one!

 

[Quickstatus]

Just to be clear . I'm not saying to implant it in the bran, just under the skin

 

[Mr H]

Just to be clear . I'm not saying to implant it in the bran, just under the skin

In many ways, facial recognition software has already gone a long way to giving people a unique identifier that they carry with them. Ditto fingerprints. It may be possible soon to bypass the implanted chip anyway.

 

[SYD]

In many ways, facial recognition software has already gone a long way to giving people a unique identifier that they carry with them. Ditto fingerprints. It may be possible soon to bypass the implanted chip anyway.

LAX was doing facial recognition at the TBIT departure gates earlier in the year and no surprise, HKG just the other day.

 

[Mr H]

LAX was doing facial recognition at the TBIT departure gates earlier in the year and no surprise, HKG just the other day.

I could be wrong but I think at the moment it is used to confirm identity but is not robust enough to be a unique primary identifier. We would need the implanted chips for a while until technology catches up.

The tech could be used to reference a whole heap of databases such as driving licences, work passes and supermarket loyalty schemes.

 

[SYD]

I could be wrong but I think at the moment it is used to confirm identity but is not robust enough to be a unique primary identifier. We would need the implanted chips for a while until technology catches up.

The tech could be used to reference a whole heap of databases such as driving licences, work passes and supermarket loyalty schemes.

The examples I mentioned were in lieu of showing BP and ID. Slightly disconcerting after years of scanning BPs….