Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[drron]

Maybe there is hope QLD will open before Christmas based on this tweet tonight by Annastacia

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448191808475779075

I got that as an SMS.Didn't know AP had my number.

 

[MARTINE]

I got that as an SMS.Didn't know AP had my number.

were you asked to repay a ‘debt’ to the ATO at the same time!!?

 

[Jousams]

were you asked to repay a ‘debt’ to the ATO at the same time!!?

I got one of these fake scam calls too, but mine was just AP bragging about her Tokyo trip.

 

[Tiki]

Maybe there is hope QLD will open before Christmas based on this tweet tonight by Annastacia

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448191808475779075

It's a good start and should have been done months ago. She needs to name the date and be firm. Stop waffling on borders, commit to leaving them open no matter what. Build the tourist industry back up. I can't see overseas tourists waning to come here if there is nothing to do.

The govt did their part by finally getting a good supply of jabs. Get vax vans to remote communities like yesterday. People need to start taking personal responsibility. Unvaxxed should have some restrictions like NSW is doing.

Anxiously awaiting Qld home quarantine program details and inbound award seats to be released hopefully in Feb. Perferably on SQ so I can burn those points that expire in April!

 

[PineappleSkip]

She should also decide and announce those restrictions. Arrived in SYD and it's a whole new ball game, being asked to show my vax certificate everywhere.

The protection messaging isn't right, it isn't resonating with the unvaccinated. If she wants people to come out of the woodwork this is what I would say

"It takes five weeks to get fully vaccinated. In five weeks you won't be able to go to [Coffee shop, hotel, hairdresser etc] unless you have proof of vaccination. You have been warned."

Madness in marketing is putting out the same message as before and expecting a different response. I'm a lot more scared of denial of access to a coffee than I am of COVID!

Cheers skip

 

[drron]

$5,000 return: sky-high ticket prices hit Australians’ holiday hopes as airlines prepare for takeoff

Industry experts say it could ‘take a full year’ for international air travel to return to pre-Covid pandemic pricing

www.theguardian.com

I doubt we will be back at pre covid levels within 12 months.I have said previously probably not until 2025/6.

 

[ayushamity]

I seriously wonder why the major carriers haven't opened bookings yet from November 1st into Sydney. These guys are already flying into Sydney in November (but with a very heavy passenger cap) and they can just open up the remaining 200 odd seats on each flight.

There is literally no downside in opening up bookings as even one extra passenger in the plane is extra revenue from the flight.

 

[Berlin]

I doubt we will be back at pre covid levels within 12 months.I have said previously probably not until 2025/6.

I wonder what will happen to Business class as I can't really care less about the filthy seats in the back Many corporates are VERY reluctant to spend big bucks on travel again, now that we are all so happy to Zoom/Team/Hangout into our meetings.

So hoping that J class fares won't be too bad once traffic picks up again but who knows.

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I seriously wonder why the major carriers haven't opened bookings yet from November 1st into Sydney. These guys are already flying into Sydney in November (but with a very heavy passenger cap) and they can just open up the remaining 200 odd seats on each flight.

There is literally no downside in opening up bookings as even one extra passenger in the plane is extra revenue from the flight.

I think they're afraid that the specifics of how it will all be managed aren't sorted in the end and then they sit on all the canceled bookings. My hunch is that as soon as the NSW/Fed government announces how it will all be handled exactly (how does overseas proof of vaccination handled, how exactly will self-quarantine work and be enforced and so on and on and on), then airlines will start offering tickets.

 

[andye]

I suspect the airlines are worried about offloading a group of pax from QLD/WA/ACT(!)/SA/TAS/NT at SYD and what happens to them. Not to mention any unvaccinated individuals staying in NSW.They need clarity

 

[OATEK]

I seriously wonder why the major carriers haven't opened bookings yet from November 1st into Sydney. These guys are already flying into Sydney in November (but with a very heavy passenger cap) and they can just open up the remaining 200 odd seats on each flight.

There is literally no downside in opening up bookings as even one extra passenger in the plane is extra revenue from the flight.

With the initial announcements mainly focussed on UK/US, then not surprising that it has been slow opening for carriers not hubbed in those locations. BA has not yet decided on bringing BA15/16 forward from the late March restart, and they will be gifting seats to QF until they do.

 

[Telemachus]

I just saw this 'fact sheet' uploaded to the federal Dept of Health site on Tue 12 Oct. It says it’s aimed at the aviation industry to enable preparation for restart of international travel. Well, prepare to be not very enlightened: a classic example of government advice that leaves the reader with more questions than she/he had before.

There are some perplexing references to red and green zones/countries – though according to the PM at his presser on 1 Oct there was going to be no traffic light system. Moreover, the tantalising references to quarantine are hedged with the ‘may include’ language of the National Plan.

Trying to be fair, this is the DoH and not DHA/ABF and it’s mostly about IPC protocols. So some of the burning issues are arguably out of scope for DoH. Not quite joined-up government, though, is it? Rather an understatement if I say BARA and the industry will not regard this as adequate to address their critical issues.

 

[Berlin]

I just saw this 'fact sheet' uploaded to the federal Dept of Health site on Tue 12 Oct. It says it’s aimed at the aviation industry to enable preparation for restart of international travel. Well, prepare to be not very enlightened: a classic example of government advice that leaves the reader with more questions than she/he had before.

That's mostly just the usual "Don't touch your face" stuff which will be a welcome excuse for airlines to save $$$ on their inflight catering once travel resumes. Not really answering the important questions that airlines will have.

 

[sergej77]

Interesting, but as Telemachus said: more question than before

Australian airports to be divided into red zones and green zones

Here’s another sign of how international travel will look very different once Australia’s borders reopen.

www.executivetraveller.com

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

Interesting, but as Telemachus said: more question than before

Australian airports to be divided into red zones and green zones

Here’s another sign of how international travel will look very different once Australia’s borders reopen.

www.executivetraveller.com

So Greenzone is international travel without quarantine?

 

[Jousams]

So Greenzone is international travel without quarantine?

Not sure if related, but my JAL flight from Mel to NRT on 4 December just got cancelled.

 

[Berlin]

So Greenzone is international travel without quarantine?

I'm confused- hadn't they talked about "removing of all travel caps"? How's that going to work if there's still red zone flights which require quarantine?

And- which countries will be declared "red zones"?

 

[oznflfan]

I'm confused- hadn't they talked about "removing of all travel caps"? How's that going to work if there's still red zone flights which require quarantine?

And- which countries will be declared "red zones"?

I think Green Zones are a future unicorn.
I think all countries we return from will be from Red Zones.

 

[Berlin]

I think Green Zones are a future unicorn.
I think all countries we return from will be from Red Zones.

Hmm, I don't think that makes sense as it says that red zone travellers will need to "undertake mandatory quarantine in designated accommodation for 14 days from the day they entered". So that would be the current state, would it not be?

 

[oznflfan]

Hmm, I don't think that makes sense as it says that red zone travellers will need to "undertake mandatory quarantine in designated accommodation for 14 days from the day they entered". So that would be the current state, would it not be?

That is correct. Heard on rumour mill NSW may come out tomorrow with announcement re: home quarantine to override that if vaccinated. I'm waiting on that and my Chief Minister in Darwin to provide his spin on home quarantine. If acceptable, Normandy in early Feb would be pretty good.

 

[DeltaBega]

I read somewhere but can’t recall where that for the NSW pilot you had to live within a 2 hour drive from the airport.
Can travel by private car or taxi/ hire car.

Did it mention that you can take a connecting flight to a country area? My home town is a a 50 minute flight serviced by Qantas.