Priority boarding on QF domestic - what is the story?

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^ tuapekstar - BA had a FA at the top of the PB que to stop randoms wondering into the wrong que. I got picked up and was told to use the other side, until l told her l was a QF WP (at the time) and was entitled to use it. She apologised and let me though. No biggie, but l think it did make difference and worked well.
 
^ tuapekstar - BA had a FA at the top of the PB que to stop randoms wondering into the wrong que. I got picked up and was told to use the other side, until l told her l was a QF WP (at the time) and was entitled to use it. She apologised and let me though. No biggie, but l think it did make difference and worked well.

Good to hear Oneworldplus2 and if BA can do it, then so can QF (if they choose to do so)!
 
On QF613 the other day BNE-MEL I arrived from the lounge after boarding had commenced. The signs were there, but at first glance the two lines seemed almost to merge into one. Eventually got myself into the (much shorter) priority line, but there were some people in front of me who I was fairly sure should not have been there (they had a separate issue which meant they had to go off and have something else done anyway). But it was definitely far more sparsely populated than the general line.

Notwithstanding that it did not take me long to get my BP scanned, two things stand out for me:

1) The signage is not clear/prominent enough. There is a very large 'Premium' sign on the RHS which spells things out OK, but it faces sideways and people jumping into a queue, if slightly back from this sign, cannot read it until almost adjacent to it (I did not hear the announcement). Then there is a much smaller sign facing 'forwards' which says 'regular' (or something similar) with a small arrow pointing left, and priority (or premium) with an arrow pointing right. IMHO this is too small and placed at a point where people who have been lined up in the 'wrong' queue for some time are not going to remove themselves and re-queue in the correct line upon reading it.

2) To reinforce it, QF needs to reject people if they are in the wrong queue. I know this slows down boarding (and makes people irate, but hey, they need to get used to it ;)) and they are keen to get away on time, but as per the old saying, once you shoot a few, the rest will get the general idea. I think QF should make a conscious and concerted effort for a while to reject people in the wrong line (I don't mean bar them from boarding, just send them to the correct line) - this should have a positive impact on ensuring people take notice of which boarding line is the one for them. Short term pain for long term gain. They may already be doing this but I have not noticed it.

If 2) was done, then 1) may be sufficient as far as signage goes, but the signs are the front line as far as this process goes. Not everyone pays too much attention to, or is at the gate for, the announcement, and then it becomes a follow the leader situation, and the gate staff seem reluctant to 'reject' people in the incorrect queue.

It is working to a degree, but IMHO needs some tuning.

Which day were you on QF 613 as that almost exactly sounds like my boarding experience on 613 the other day (Tuesday). Pax eventually filtering into general queue, but a bit difficult to make way into priority queue and see sign from back of main queue. And some travellers rejected at front of "priority" queue - I was two back in the queue, and overheard they had come from CNS and presented their CNS - BNE bp as they had "lost" their BNE-mel ones so thought they'd just show the CNS-BNE one!. FA sent them to service desk to resolve. Highly doubt they were WP/SG or equiv.
 
Good to hear Oneworldplus2 and if BA can do it, then so can QF (if they choose to do so)!

It would work if QF decdies they want to pay for an extra staff member to oversee the process & as much as I'd like to, I just can't see that happening. :rolleyes:

On QF613 the other day BNE-MEL I arrived from the lounge after boarding had commenced. The signs were there, but at first glance the two lines seemed almost to merge into one. Eventually got myself into the (much shorter) priority line, but there were some people in front of me who I was fairly sure should not have been there (they had a separate issue which meant they had to go off and have something else done anyway). But it was definitely far more sparsely populated than the general line.

What gate number were you boarding from in BNE?

FWIW I've seen two flights in the last week depart from BNE (the satellite) to SYD that had two F/A's doing the boarding when it was a 734. I know in one instance, one of the F/A's was paxing and offered to come up and assist with boarding so I'm assuming that was also the case in the other instance.
 
Slightly O/T but boarding for QF94 last night in LAX was an absolute mess.

Two queues - one for economy and one for F/J/PE/WP/SG/OWE/OWS.

They first called people with children and people needing assistance. Half of the people there had children - I think this policy needs to be a little more specific (eg. Children under 5) because on some flights it would mean that most status pax would board last!

Anyway, at this first call about 50 people went forward to the economy queue. By that stage there was a queue of about 100 people behind the priority line, and growing. There were a few Americans in F who were quite surprised that F wasn't called before all other priority pax, and were most annoyed at having to go to the back of the line!

Considering there are >120 seats where people get priority boarding on an A380 before status even comes in, it doesn't really make sense to only have one priority queue.

Anyway, just a minor thing as our upgrade to F came through and we had a thoroughly fabulous flight!


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I know it's a bit late now... but if you're holding an F boardg pass, I'm surprised those passengers didn't just go straight to the front of the queue! or even just approach the gate desk and they'll get you through.
 
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Which day were you on QF 613 as that almost exactly sounds like my boarding experience on 613 the other day (Tuesday). Pax eventually filtering into general queue, but a bit difficult to make way into priority queue and see sign from back of main queue. And some travellers rejected at front of "priority" queue - I was two back in the queue, and overheard they had come from CNS and presented their CNS - BNE bp as they had "lost" their BNE-mel ones so thought they'd just show the CNS-BNE one!. FA sent them to service desk to resolve. Highly doubt they were WP/SG or equiv.

Yes it was Tuesday docjames. :) (I had been rerouted from SIN via BNE due to QF10 running very late a few days). The 3 pax I saw sent off to somewhere else because of a BP irregularity (not sure exactly what) were what looked like grandma, daughter and grandson (with daughter doing the talking). They certainly ended up on the flight as I saw one of them at the other end. I don't know that they should not have been in that line, but it seemed that way. I wasn't taking a lot of notice, but it seemed to me this group was one BP short.

It would work if QF decdies they want to pay for an extra staff member to oversee the process & as much as I'd like to, I just can't see that happening. :rolleyes:

Yes, and a shame, though I can understand their reluctance.


What gate number were you boarding from in BNE?

FWIW I've seen two flights in the last week depart from BNE (the satellite) to SYD that had two F/A's doing the boarding when it was a 734. I know in one instance, one of the F/A's was paxing and offered to come up and assist with boarding so I'm assuming that was also the case in the other instance.

It was, I think, 17 (but may have been 16). From memory there were two agents - one for each line.
 
Slightly O/T but boarding for QF94 last night in LAX was an absolute mess.

Two queues - one for economy and one for F/J/PE/WP/SG/OWE/OWS.

They first called people with children and people needing assistance. Half of the people there had children - I think this policy needs to be a little more specific (eg. Children under 5) because on some flights it would mean that most status pax would board last!

Maybe a better idea would be to call pax in F, P1, WP & OWE to board first, followed by J, PE, SG & OWS via the dedicated PB lane to the left (?) then call for pax with infants & children under 5 to line up in the general boarding lane to the right so after the initial lot of premium pax board, families who are ready can board before other pax in the general queue.

Then status pax should be able to 'board at convenience' via the dedicated PB queue at any time during the boarding process should they wish to maximise their time in the lounge. I don't think it's right that all and sundry get to board before status pax just because they have offspring.

I know it's a bit late now... but if you're holding an F boardg pass, I'm surprised those passengers didn't just go straight to the front of the queue! or even just approach the gate desk and they'll get you through.

Got caught out with that in the US when travelling F on AA as they called for EXP plus US Military Personnel in uniform then Priority Aaccess pax. Next time we just went up at the first boarding call & it was fine.

It was, I think, 17 (but may have been 16). From memory there were two agents - one for each line.

Gate 16 is a standoff bay & generally used only for the 734, so if you boarded via an aerobridge & it was a 738 is was more than likely Gate 17.
 
If Qantas doesn't enforce the benefit by applying it to only those people whom are entitled, then we haven't achieved anything. It ends up being lip service and a slap in the face, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm in the fortunate situation of having oneworld Sapphire status (AA) as well as being Platinum. Nine times out of 10 I fly under the Sapphire status but I'll be using the priority lane (with Platinum card ready). I look forward to noting how many times I'm challenged but, sadly, I fear they will be few and far between.
 
Why not assign a rating to every passenger automatically at check in?

1 WP1/WP in F
2 Non Status in F
3 WP1/WP in J
4 Non Status in J
5 SG
6 Any passenger with a child under 3
7 Any passenger with a child from 3 - 10
8 All other passengers

The the gate agents call for boarding of all passengers according to Boarding ID number. It might not look exactly like to above but I am sure someone could create a ranking for all passengers that automatically prints on the boarding pass.

No need for extra staff, no need for extra lanes and everyone will know when they are due to board.
 
Worked well on QF618 MEL-BNE today.They didn't call for OWS so I was in the pleb lane.occasional person using the PB lane.Was a 734 with 1 FA and the CSM manning the gate.Not seen that before.
And the crew were mostly young,pleasant and efficient with just the right amount of sarcasm-my isn't that a large bag they've let you smuggle on today sir.Not spoken to me by the way.
 
And the crew were mostly young,pleasant and efficient with just the right amount of sarcasm-my isn't that a large bag they've let you smuggle on today sir.Not spoken to me by the way.

Are you sure you didn't board a DJ flight by mistake? :p:p
 
Worked well on QF618 MEL-BNE today.They didn't call for OWS so I was in the pleb lane.occasional person using the PB lane.Was a 734 with 1 FA and the CSM manning the gate.Not seen that before.

And the crew were mostly young,pleasant and efficient with just the right amount of sarcasm-my isn't that a large bag they've let you smuggle on today sir.Not spoken to me by the way.

So another case of 2 crew doing the boarding of a 734 not going to or from CBR. If the CSM at the boarding gate was assisting with the boarding process, who was doing the meet & greet bit at the a/c door?

A CSM told me that they must have 3 cabin crew on board ie one at the door & 2 down the back so I wonder if there was a paxing cabin crew member helping with boarding?
 
So another case of 2 crew doing the boarding of a 734 not going to or from CBR. If the CSM at the boarding gate was assisting with the boarding process, who was doing the meet & greet bit at the a/c door?

A CSM told me that they must have 3 cabin crew on board ie one at the door & 2 down the back so I wonder if there was a paxing cabin crew member helping with boarding?
Thinking back i think you have nailed it because greeting us was another male staff member who wasn't there when meals were served.
Also in another of those exceptions to prove the rule once again I was seated beside 2 young boys-both QF and VA do this to me regularly.They were perfect little gentlemen as well and a credit to their parents.
 
QF420 this morning, MEL - SYD. Got to the gate and the was a big line for the non priority line and a few in the priority lane. Just as I lined up one of the QF staffers said tackled for people to use both lanes!

If that's going to happen then why bother having it!

Will be emailing qantas when I get to Sydney! Up til that point the lanes had been working as it should have.
 
ADL was the usual zoo this morning. Priority boarding consisted of me walking up to the scanner and just waiting there. Smart FA said I'll board you, when we open. I almost replied that since they refuse to do priority boarding I'll just do it myself. Needless to say I cannot imagine what madness prompted me to book my first 6 or 8 ADL departures with Qantas.


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Yes it was Tuesday docjames. :) (I had been rerouted from SIN via BNE due to QF10 running very late a few days). The 3 pax I saw sent off to somewhere else because of a BP irregularity (not sure exactly what) were what looked like grandma, daughter and grandson (with daughter doing the talking). They certainly ended up on the flight as I saw one of them at the other end. I don't know that they should not have been in that line, but it seemed that way. I wasn't taking a lot of notice, but it seemed to me this group was one BP short.

Where were you sitting? I was slumming it in 2D..... ;)


Might have been a different group - party of three, asian ethnicity, definately in from Cairns, BPs were a mess but I definately overheard the dicussion around the CNS-BNE BPs vs the BNE-MEL BPs, and that they didnt have the BNE-MEL ones.
 
QF420 this morning, MEL - SYD. Got to the gate and the was a big line for the non priority line and a few in the priority lane. Just as I lined up one of the QF staffers said tackled for people to use both lanes!

If that's going to happen then why bother having it!

Will be emailing qantas when I get to Sydney! Up til that point the lanes had been working as it should have.

How dumb is that!

The smart thing to do would be for the F/A in the PB queue to call pax across from the front of the general boarding queue if at the time there are no Premium pax to board. That way it still frees up the PB queue for the very passengers it was designed for as they come along.
 
Where were you sitting? I was slumming it in 2D..... ;)


Might have been a different group - party of three, asian ethnicity, definately in from Cairns, BPs were a mess but I definately overheard the dicussion around the CNS-BNE BPs vs the BNE-MEL BPs, and that they didnt have the BNE-MEL ones.

1D. :) I think we loaded the O/H at about the same time. I was a little zombie-like and snoozed the second half of the flight as was dog tired after o/night from SIN. Hope I didn't snore. :p

Definitely the same people. They were in the priority line right in front of me, and it was definitely, as you say, an issue with the BPs.
 
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