Qantas Club Dress Standards...Stubbies, singlet and thongs....What the???

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And the problem is....? :mrgreen:
It seems to me that it is all part of the degradation of social standards overall.
No please, no thank you. Who opens doors, stands up in trains and buses ?
how can you depart a lift when others are pushing their way in ?
How about loud talking on mobile phones in public ? And I shudder to mention
table manners.
I could mention the "I" generation but would be howled down so I won't.
When I was a boy the tradition was to be taken to the then famous Fletcher Jones
in Melbourne for a pair of long trousers and a "Refer Jacket" (Blue Blazer if you like)
This outfit, complete with tie, was standard "outing dress"
Perhaps I am a Luddite but I feel vindicated after the programme on the "Box"
the other night claiming that Australians are perhaps the most badly dressed
people in the world.
 
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Perhaps a Qantas Club Bogan Lounge is needed, VB stubby holders, shorts, singlets and thongs accepted.
 
Perhaps a Qantas Club Bogan Lounge is needed, VB stubby holders, shorts, singlets and thongs accepted.

And all the alcohol could be in the Bogan Lounge to make it nicer for the rest of us.
 
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Lets face it, we are all different with varying values. What may offend one will not offend another.
As long as we all dress and behave in what is generally a socially accepted manner, that is all that should be required.
Our personal views should not come into the equation.
It is not just about personal views or is it?

I am sorry but I will never understand the singlet, shorts and thongs attire in public. Would you go to a classy restaurant wearing that attire? How about the opera? You childs' graduation? Court appearance? Wedding? Work?

I do not understand the stupid concept of dressing for the destination. So if you are going to a nudist colony you will wear nothing?
 
Following up someone else's comment........

Many many moons ago I worked at a mine in WA, for lunch and evening meal you were not allowed in the dinning room without having had a shower and be in reasonable casual which was no fluro, no singlets. If for some reason you had your work clothes on you had to have your meal as a take away.

The kitchen/serving staff had the right of refusal which was backed by mine management (even though a contractor ran the mess services)

Miners these days do have lower standards at least compared to the mine I worked at in the early 1990's.

Either they are lazy or don't care what others think. If lounge staff clamped down and refused entry to a few people word would spread quickly and people would improve their standards when they start missing a few free beers.

Matt
 
Have we got general agreement in this thread that it is far more about attitude than attire? There really doesn't seem to be much disagreement there.

I've always gone the t shirt, shorts and thongs. There has never once been a bad sentiment about it, anything said, or any hint that it wasn't accepted. In fact, as numerous others have noted, it is basically the norm in most first class lounges these days.

Singlet and stubbies is probably another level, but again it has much more to do with the attitude and hygiene of the person than the attire. You would only notice it if they stunk or were being particularly rude. With women, shorter shorts or singlets obviously wouldn't be questioned. The only conceivable issues lie with the observer, and I'm quite certain will only ever be triggered when other factors simultaneously don't meet their satisfaction.

Agree it is more about attitude than attire. But t-shirt, shorts and thongs the norm in most F lounges these days? Not in my experience. Very much the exception in fact. Though your own experiences are just that (i.e. yours, so I am not disputing them) and you may just fly different times/use different lounges than I do.
 
I'm a pretty snappy dresser myself most of the time, even in holiday 'shabby-chic' mode but afraid to say my visits to the QF lounges are increasingly rare other when I'm flying on CX. Come to think of it I never see stubbies and thongs in the F lounge at The Pier or The Wing or in the Silver Kris or even in the Koru Club for that matter. (lots of Macpac and Icebreaker in there) I think you guys are flying the wrong airline, but you already know that ;)
 
Agree it is more about attitude than attire. But t-shirt, shorts and thongs the norm in most F lounges these days? Not in my experience. Very much the exception in fact. Though your own experiences are just that (i.e. yours, so I am not disputing them) and you may just fly different times/use different lounges than I do.

Yeah to be honest "the norm" would be pushing it. I mean it's not unusual. The norm comment was sparked from my most recent trip where I was 1 of 6 people in the Mel F lounge and I noticed all 6 of us were wearing thongs! Ordinarily, my dress would be on the casual side comparing across the board without sticking out, but that's the same in life. Ultimately I dress for the 14 hour flight, which means shoes are an annoyance and the most comfortable attire wins. Sleeping in a suit isn't my go. The lounge is a handy bonus sometimes available pre-flight if I'm early enough that pretty obviously has to cater for whatever will be worn on the flight. It's appreciated but doesn't warrant its own separate outfit for me. Each to their own on that.
 
Yeah to be honest "the norm" would be pushing it. I mean it's not unusual. The norm comment was sparked from my most recent trip where I was 1 of 6 people in the Mel F lounge and I noticed all 6 of us were wearing thongs! Ordinarily, my dress would be on the casual side comparing across the board without sticking out, but that's the same in life. Ultimately I dress for the 14 hour flight, which means shoes are an annoyance and the most comfortable attire wins. Sleeping in a suit isn't my go. The lounge is a handy bonus sometimes available pre-flight if I'm early enough that pretty obviously has to cater for whatever will be worn on the flight. It's appreciated but doesn't warrant its own separate outfit for me. Each to their own on that.

I know the chances are remote, but I prefer slip on boots as my casual flying footwear easy to remove and put on when at altitude. Just in case I need to do a runner through burning wreckage. Yes unlikely, but having been on a couple of derailed trains in my time I have seen things can get out of hand quickly.

Matt
 
I know the chances are remote, but I prefer slip on boots as my casual flying footwear easy to remove and put on when at altitude. Just in case I need to do a runner through burning wreckage. Yes unlikely, but having been on a couple of derailed trains in my time I have seen things can get out of hand quickly.

Matt

Pretty much my view also .....As a local reference I'm yet to see any QF or VA Captains / Second Officers on duty, board their planes in thongs (flip flops yada yada) .......So at this time I'll take the fashion lead from the experts and stick with a good comfortable sturdy fully enclosed pair of shoes when flying...............
 
I'm yet to see any QF or VA Captains / Second Officers on duty, board their planes in thongs (flip flops yada yada) .......So at this time I'll take the fashion lead from the experts

I think the skipper looks great dressed this way but don't you think you would feel a bit awkward. I think that you might also get detained by security or get dragged off for evaluation!

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Are bare feet acceptable now?????

Am sitting in the QF Business lounge in Bangkok, and there is someone serving himself at the food bar without shoes on, not even thongs.... I know it is late, and I think that only the flight remaining is a Jetstar flight (that I am on), and the standards here are already pretty low, but really????? No shoes, no thongs, nothing????
 
Sept 2013 I witnessed a patron of the OOL QP, bare feet, shorts and singlet. No one said anything so looks like anything goes.
 
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