Qantas Club Dress Standards...Stubbies, singlet and thongs....What the???

[juddles]

I am not particularly wealthy, nor do I attempt to be classy, and I chose to wear this into the lounge today. But I was also showered, ironed shirt, and very polite to staff and fellow pax.

My two cents worth is that attitude and behaviour are the most important things, not the clothing. However, I have found in my humble experience that ¨frequently¨ those that pay least attention to dress, also pay least attention to anything else about themselves that could offend a fellow pax.

Each to their own - just be aware that you can offend others without even trying. In South America shorts and thongs offend in most public places (apart from a beach). And having grown up exposed to that culture I would never DREAM of wearing same into a lounge, or a plane. But I also get that someone who has grown up in Australia would feel fine doing just that.

 

[JohnK]

Not to be blunt but, get with the times then? Or stay current with the times rather.

Why should I accept the standard you want to set?

Society does not need to be radical. Conservative is just fine.

 

[Brisbane Flyer]

I was in the Sydney FLounge today...

a) Seated right away, was on QF81, arrived around 10a, no offer to escort me or show me around (I could care less, it wasn't my first visit)
b) Champagne and eggs benedict ordered and arrived quickly, staff was nice and in a good mood
c) ate, drank and left for the flight around 11a
d) didn't notice what anyone was wearing, but the woman next to me was juggling an iPad and a laptop and her eggs benedict (on a Sunday, seriously connected to technology, chill out honey its the weekend!)

There were at least 50-70 people in the lounge, seriously I cannot remember what anyone wore or didn't wear. Maybe it was the 15km walk the day before and the 4 litres of water I drank that had my brain scrambled.

I for once was not in shorts, only because I was wearing my compression socks!

Now in SG for 6 days of golf at SICC.

Cheers
BF

 

[maninblack]

Pushka has got this very right.In 1995 I was asked by police to medically examine a fellow well in his 80s who they felt was demented and shouldn't have a driving licence.Mrsdrron was working the desk.One look convinced her he did not have 2 pennies to rub together so he was bulk billed.
He brought along what he said were part of his records.It detailed just some of his share holdings which were significant enough for the QLD treasurer to send the ministerial car to pick him up to vote on the merger of Suncorp and Metway bank.
He turned out to be one of the richest men in QLD.
He had never married,didn't care for wordly pleasures but delighted in being able to pick the right investments.He didn't even have a phone at home but would ring his broker from the local phone booth.
Though he would never be seen in an airline lounge.

Point well made but it says more about QLD back in the day than anything else!

 

[blackcat20]

Some consider it OT but in similar vein to Blackcat I'd prefer to see a behaviour code. Based on respecting others personal space in a public lounge. The loud talkers on phones, or watching a video without earphones, even if immaculately dressed are far more intrusive.

Plus a simple statement that clothes can't be ripped or dirty, no singlets and footwear worn at all times. Or words to that effect. Hi-viz - no problems as long as it's clean.

Yes, the point I was trying to make was that someone's style of dress does not indicate their manner of behaviour, so suggesting that certain types of dress be banned is not so productive...

 

[marki]

A Burka perhaps ?

 

[fifo]

Why should I accept the standard you want to set?

Society does not need to be radical. Conservative is just fine.

or maybe you could get off your high horse and realise its a spectrum? I'll accept your conservatism as long as you accept my conservatism. which you think is radical. but I dont care, but you for some reason do. past reasonable health and safety standards, incl hygiene (no singlets, be clean) there should be no rules. behaviour is another thing altogether. Those who want to say that 'poorly' dressed usually goes together with poor behaviour can take that sort of sterotyping and shove it. plenty of people me included, enter the lounge, shorts/thongs/tshirts and get a laptop out and start work. i've got stuff to do, work to be done, both personal and for actual work.

also, the lounge has nothing to do with 'business' it has to do with who pays the airline money to fly. and how much money they earn for the airline, granting them whatever status level.
calling the j lounges 'business lounges' is a misnomer and should be changed. even calling the class of flight 'business' is a silly misnomer. lots of people flying in j sure arent on business.

 

[medhead]

The only thing I will add is that thongs are unhygienic. If you wear thongs out on the street your feet get covered in filth. This is undeniable. Now this is not to say people shouldn't wear thongs. Hell! I grew up in Queensland and didn't even wear shoes until high school. Even then there was a greater than 50% chance of no shoes on days when I didn't have wood/metal shop. But please don't pretend thongs provide any significant barrier to filth.

 

[fifo]

The only thing I will add is that thongs are unhygienic. If you wear thongs out on the street your feet get covered in filth. This is undeniable. Now this is not to say people shouldn't wear thongs. Hell! I grew up in Queensland and didn't even wear shoes until high school. Even then there was a greater than 50% chance of no shoes on days when I didn't have wood/metal shop. But please don't pretend thongs provide any significant barrier to filth.

pretty sure those shoes you wear will collect the filth instead then? if the filth is on shoes, or feet, whats your point really? you are worried about someones feet getting dirty??

 

[medhead]

pretty sure those shoes you wear will collect the filth instead then? if the filth is on shoes, or feet, whats your point really? you are worried about someones feet getting dirty??

The point is very easy. Thongs do not prevent filth getting onto feet. I wrote as much in my post. Clean feet has been a massive theme from all sides including those who claim that feet in thongs don't get dirty. That is simply untrue. Instead of making up BS about feet being clean, How about just saying I prefer to wear thongs.

As for the rest of your false assumptions. Did I say anything about being worried? Talk about projecting. Sure I think it is disgusting for people to kick off their thongs and prop their feet up on tables/chairs. But that is not due to the thongs, that happens because they are just grots.

As for the shoes I wear, again a massive false assumption. Thongs are my first choice footwear for most occasions. I've even contemplated wearing them to work with a suit. The big difference is I'm not deluded enough to think there is anything hygienic about wearing thongs.

 

[JohnK]

or maybe you could get off your high horse and realise its a spectrum? I'll accept your conservatism as long as you accept my conservatism. which you think is radical. but I dont care, but you for some reason do. past reasonable health and safety standards, incl hygiene (no singlets, be clean) there should be no rules. behaviour is another thing altogether.

You seem to know me quite well but you don't know me at all.

You might think it's about compromise but it's not.

Singlets in public, for men and women, are poor dress sense and should not be allowed. Full stop. No debate.

Bare feet are unhygienic regardless of the spin you want to put on it. And putting some cheap thongs on those unhygienic feet doesn't solve anything.

I am glad there is a minimum dress standard in place. Wish more places would do the same.

 

[TomVexille]

You seem to know me quite well but you don't know me at all.

You might think it's about compromise but it's not.

Singlets in public, for men and women, are poor dress sense and should not be allowed. Full stop. No debate.

Bare feet are unhygienic regardless of the spin you want to put on it. And putting some cheap thongs on those unhygienic feet doesn't solve anything.

I am glad there is a minimum dress standard in place. Wish more places would do the same.

You would enjoy the parts of the USA where most shops have signs that say, "No shirt, no shoes, no service"

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Bare feet are unhygienic regardless of the spin you want to put on it.

Is there evidence to back this up? I'm struggling to see why bare feet are unhygienic, or what the difference is with having shoes on? Shoes have crevices on the bottom to hold dog poo (which you won't step in with bare feet), and the inside of shoes are a nice warm moist environment to breed all sorts of germs.

Surely bare hands are even worse, but why don't we make everyone wear gloves?

 

[wandering_fred]

AT the risk of someone saying that I should not repeat myself

Reasonable dress is when the clothing does not distract the attention of other people. Whether this is because the person is under dressed or over dressed makes no difference. Clothing in public should be clean, functional, whole and boring. :idea:

The end result of the above is happy wandering

Fred

 

[dougieboy]

Ok if my designer singlet offends I'll just have to walk around bare chested! Living in Brisbane singlets and thongs and shorts and not wearing a tie with a business shirt is the cultural norm. Who is going to wrestle that down to the ground and kill it? I didn't know Australia had regressed back to Victorian prudism. To go through life trying to control others freewill as to what they should be wearing in order to gain the fickle opinion and approval of others. There are some seriously spiritually bankrupt people on here. And filthy minds. Happy Rio Carnival!

 

[Deleted member]

I wish I looked good enough to wear a singlet .....sigh !

 

[pagingjoan]

Then there is the sizeable proportion of the world's population - apart from Australia's - that wears standard footwear that falls into the category of thongs.
Seems a little late to forbid them to do so.

 

[get me outta here]

And, I am pleased that we are taking back the name of the footwear as 'thongs' and not flip flops or whatever non Aussies call them.

Ok if my designer singlet offends I'll just have to walk around bare chested! Living in Brisbane singlets and thongs and shorts and not wearing a tie with a business shirt is the cultural norm. Who is going to wrestle that down to the ground and kill it? I didn't know Australia had regressed back to Victorian prudism. To go through life trying to control others freewill as to what they should be wearing in order to gain the fickle opinion and approval of others. There are some seriously spiritually bankrupt people on here. And filthy minds. Happy Rio Carnival!

 

[straitman]

Re: Qantas Club Dress Standards...Stubbies, singlet and thongs....What the???


The discussion re Stubbies, singlet and thongs is (or should be) in reference to the Qantas Club.

 

[pagingjoan]

Re: Qantas Club Dress Standards...Stubbies, singlet and thongs....What the???


The discussion re Stubbies, singlet and thongs is (or should be) in reference to the Qantas Club.

Yes, point taken, thank you, Straitman.

My comment about the prevalence of thongs as footwear around the world was meant to refer to wearing them in airport lounges, including the QC.
I think it would be extremely difficult for QF to ban them. Nor do I think they should but that's a personal opinion.

[Perhaps I should add that, despite my heritage, I have never owned or worn a pair of thongs.
But I do have a large collection of sandals, and wear them frequently in QF - and other - Lounges.
I could never mount an argument that sandals are acceptable but thongs, whatever their style, are not.]