Qantas Club Dress Standards...Stubbies, singlet and thongs....What the???

[RooFlyer]

It's totally the wrong colour.

Yes, but the padlock sets it off nicely, doncha think?

 

[wandering_fred]

It's totally the wrong colour.

Why do I think that something relating to that statement is missed by not HEARING it said in the proper accent?

I'll leave the interpretation of "proper" to your state of wandering

Fred

 

[JohnK]

Exactly. And people such as myself, who fly to Australia wearing thongs (or flip-flops or flippies) and with no shoes in our luggage (not having any need for same) can fly in F yet be denied access to QF lounge for connecting domestic flights.

You travel without shoes?

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

You travel without shoes?

And in F......?

 

[basso]

I am hoping the thong supporters have all got bridge building kits on their Xmas lists. With a bit of luck they'll build it and walk across it.....

 

[anabolism]

If you wish to use Qantas lounges, then it appears you do have need of something other than thongs!

I'm curious; do you fly half way round the world and pack no shoes at all, only thongs (for 2 of you, as you say 'our luggage')? Maybe its singlets only too, no shirts (male) nor blouses (female)?

One of us doesn't mind shoes, so he wears them on planes and elsewhere. I get overheated in them, so I wear thongs everywhere and don't pack shoes. I use the luggage space for things I'll use (we never check bags, so must travel with only essentials). I never wear singlets (tank-tops) when flying, usually a T-shirt with short sleeves, sometimes a button-front also with short sleeves. Sometimes long pants, sometimes knee-length shorts, depending on how warm the arrival city will be.

Lounges are not 'the beach' - they are invitation-only shared spaces. Travel light and go thongs-only if you like but the Qantas lounge isn't the only place you won't get admission into.

I have noticed the peculiar Australian thong-phobia. Seems strange to me that surf lifesaver club restaurants don't permit thongs or shorts or shirts without collars, even when the tables are on the sand. And a certain hotel in Sydney wouldn't permit me in the lounge! If we ever stay there again I'll probably send shoes ahead by post, and leave them with the concierge to hold for my next visit.

 

[anabolism]

You travel without shoes?

And in F......?

Yes. I get overheated otherwise.

 

[RooFlyer]

One of us doesn't mind shoes, so he wears them on planes and elsewhere. I get overheated in them, so I wear thongs everywhere and don't pack shoes. I use the luggage space for things I'll use (we never check bags, so must travel with only essentials). I never wear singlets (tank-tops) when flying, usually a T-shirt with short sleeves, sometimes a button-front also with short sleeves. Sometimes long pants, sometimes knee-length shorts, depending on how warm the arrival city will be.

I have noticed the peculiar Australian thong-phobia. Seems strange to me that surf lifesaver club restaurants don't permit thongs or shorts or shirts without collars, even when the tables are on the sand. And a certain hotel in Sydney wouldn't permit me in the lounge! If we ever stay there again I'll probably send shoes ahead by post, and leave them with the concierge to hold for my next visit.

I've no doubt you and hubby are perfectly decorous, as would be 'most' who wish to enter lounges in thongs, or similar. Unfortunately there are enough instances of gross behaviour (putting dirty feet up on tables, chairs; picking at said feet ... you only have to go back through this thread a bit; and there are others) for it to have been identified as a 'problem' (AKA lots of complaints).

I don't think the issue is thongs per se, but that they can be shed relatively easily, leaving bare feet.

So what to do? Order people out of the lounge if their personal habits aren't deemed up to scratch (embarrassing for both airline and individual and leads to confrontations) or create a rule to try to stop the issue arising. So a line is drawn. No matter where the line is drawn, there would be some who tried to test it, flaunt it or not give a stuff. Same with lounge RSA rules we discuss from time to time. Why shouldn't I be able to collect more than 1 drink at a time?? But the rule is there, so if I don't like it, I can go elsewhere.

I have posted a number of pics on AFF of totally gross feet on lounge tables etc - kids eat off the tables!! (not great, but we all know it happens). So sorry, to the thong etc wearers, the rule is necessary and should be enforced more stringently, IMHO.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I've no doubt you and hubby are perfectly decorous, as would be 'most' who wish to enter lounges in thongs, or similar. Unfortunately there are enough instances of gross behaviour (putting dirty feet up on tables, chairs; picking at said feet ... you only have to go back through this thread a bit; and there are others) for it to have been identified as a 'problem' (AKA lots of complaints).

I don't think the issue is thongs per se, but that they can be shed relatively easily, leaving bare feet.

So what to do? Order people out of the lounge if their personal habits aren't deemed up to scratch (embarrassing for both airline and individual and leads to confrontations) or create a rule to try to stop the issue arising. So a line is drawn. No matter where the line is drawn, there would be some who tried to test it, flaunt it or not give a stuff. Same with lounge RSA rules we discuss from time to time. Why shouldn't I be able to collect more than 1 drink at a time?? But the rule is there, so if I don't like it, I can go elsewhere.

I have posted a number of pics on AFF of totally gross feet on lounge tables etc - kids eat off the tables!! (not great, but we all know it happens). So sorry, to the thong etc wearers, the rule is necessary and should be enforced more stringently, IMHO.

Is it just Aussies that can't manage to control themselves?

SQ doesn't have a dress code and they don't seem to have any problems. But somehow we do? It's pretty embarrassing.

But going back to the policy... it feels like it was some sort of project for a summer intern. Something substantial enough for them to get course credits, but not substantial enough to do any damage to QF revenue (ie go anywhere near international business and first class fares).

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Do CX have a Dress Code for Lounges? Can somebody check pls?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Do CX have a Dress Code for Lounges? Can somebody check pls?

CE - I can't find a date on this article from Executivestyle - but it was written by David Flynn of Ausbt. Suggests CX does not have any dress code for their lounges or on board (save for the standard 'no offensive material). The article also restates SQ's position you outlined earlier.

Should you dress up for business class?

 

[RooFlyer]

Is it just Aussies that can't manage to control themselves?

SQ doesn't have a dress code and they don't seem to have any problems. But somehow we do? It's pretty embarrassing.

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Just a few Aussies, perhaps, but enough to make it an issue.

And/or it could be that more people here take exception to people picking at their bare feet on tables (for example), than elsewhere. We all know there are habits which are prevalent in other cultures which many westerners find a bit gross, but you just have to bear with it when visiting. With the lounge code its not about culture but rather personal habits, but the principle is the same.

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But going back to the policy... it feels like it was some sort of project for a summer intern. Something substantial enough for them to get course credits, but not substantial enough to do any damage to QF revenue (ie go anywhere near international business and first class fares).

I don't get how its such an exceptional thing. SQ may have open slather but I doubt you'd get very far wearing a mankini in the Concord Room or the Senator lounge at FRA. Actually, in spite of what was reported, I doubt that a mankini would make it into TPR either (g'won cruiser, you know you want to try ). So lines have been drawn elsewhere. Its just where the line occurs is the issue and no matter where its drawn, some-one will have a problem with it.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Thanks MEL as usual you are a star - hands up any AFFer who will be frequenting CX F lounge in HKG in near future? Anybody prepared to seek out some senior person and ascertain CX Lounge Dress Code policy and report back? Whilst I fully understand OT as this is QF Lounge Dress Code but I am sure mods / AFF folk in general will tolerate my Off Topicness.

 

[RooFlyer]

Thanks MEL as usual you are a star - hands up any AFFer who will be frequenting CX F lounge in HKG in near future? Anybody prepared to seek out some senior person and ascertain CX Lounge Dress Code policy and report back? Whilst I fully understand OT as this is QF Lounge Dress Code but I am sure mods / AFF folk in general will tolerate my Off Topicness.

Whoever does it, make sure they ask the mankini question.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

I doubt that a mankini would make it into TPR either (g'won cruiser, you know you want to try ).

RF whilst I did not specifically ask about a 'mankini' - budgie smugglers or even more briefer would be allowed according to SKL Lounge Duty Manager yesterday morn.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

... but I doubt you'd get very far wearing a mankini in the Concord Room or the Senator lounge at FRA.

Probably not - but I can't imagine being turned away simply because your footwear had a toe divider.

Drawing a line at offensive material perhaps somewhat easier. Thongs probably don't fall into the 'offensive' category. People might not like thongs, but it would be hard to argue you are genuinely 'offended' by them.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

RF whilst I did not specifically ask about a 'mankini' - budgie smugglers or even more briefer would be allowed according to SKL Lounge Duty Manager yesterday morn.

On reflection I think this is a bit of an easy pass for SQ. While they may have no policy, (the State of) Singapore does have rules around decency. A passenger in mankini/budgie smugglers may possibly have a hard time walking around the airport to get to the lounge in the first place!

 

[Happy Trails]

Thanks MEL as usual you are a star - hands up any AFFer who will be frequenting CX F lounge in HKG in near future? Anybody prepared to seek out some senior person and ascertain CX Lounge Dress Code policy and report back? Whilst I fully understand OT as this is QF Lounge Dress Code but I am sure mods / AFF folk in general will tolerate my Off Topicness.

This is from their lounge etiquette guidelines.
I guess 'professional' is open to interpretation.

• Please ensure your attire and conduct is consistent with a professional environment, and refrain from causing offence or disturbing fellow passengers.
• Lounge Etiquette Guidelines

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Ah huh HP yep see that - real life much better then online policy - can someone please ask Duty Manager or Senior person on desk? If considered not worthwhile no biggie - just forget it - I just thought being OW partner QF lovers may be interested.

 

[RooFlyer]

Probably not - but I can't imagine being turned away simply because your footwear had a toe divider.

Drawing a line at offensive material perhaps somewhat easier. Thongs probably don't fall into the 'offensive' category. People might not like thongs, but it would be hard to argue you are genuinely 'offended' by them.

I'm going to back off after this 'cause its all been argued round and round before. Its not the toe divider, or the thong itself - its that such footwear can be shrugged off easily and then you get bare feet, and then you get all the nasty habits that bare feet bring. Do you see? Again, only a small minority, but enough to make it an issue which Qantas felt obliged to deal with.

Again, with RSA 'one drink per visit to the bar' (which I don't agree with) - would simply carrying away two drinks offend anyone or cause a rowdy scene? No - its what may happen as a consequence that's considered the problem and brings in the rule.

I still think the SQ lounge (non) rules need to be tested by a walk through in suitable (non) attire. A manager may say one thing (perhaps trying to please the guest?), but is it written down?