Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Must...Fly!]

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Major League Baseball charters.

 

[Melburnian1]

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Fair enough that two 744s were used to the good ol' USA on these charters.

Why did QF9 not operate though today ex MEL? It's normally an A388 and does not use the same flight (or cabin) crew pool as the QF 744 flights.

 

[Must...Fly!]

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Fair enough that two 744s were used to the good ol' USA on these charters.

Why did QF9 not operate though today ex MEL? It's normally an A388 and does not use the same flight (or cabin) crew pool as the QF 744 flights.

There were several days in March it was not operating due to commercial factors.

 

[Melburnian1]

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'Commercial factors' - airline speak for 'low demand', presumably. Not operating it saves money but wouldn't it mean that the pilots and cabin crew may have to travel back home on a flight ('deadheading' as the Yanks call it?)

 

[nlagalle]

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'Commercial factors' - airline speak for 'low demand', presumably. Not operating it saves money but wouldn't it mean that the pilots and cabin crew may have to travel back home on a flight ('deadheading' as the Yanks call it?)

Why would they travel back as pax? They'd stay for an extra day then work the next flight home.. No difference really.

 

[Brettmcg]

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'Commercial factors' - airline speak for 'low demand', presumably. Not operating it saves money but wouldn't it mean that the pilots and cabin crew may have to travel back home on a flight ('deadheading' as the Yanks call it?)

Qantas Withdraw Selected QF9/QF10 Rotations. | The QANTAS Source

QANTAS have pulled the QF9/QF10 Melbourne – Dubai – London Heathrow rotation from their schedules on selected dates over the next few weeks. There will be no QF9 Melbourne – Dubai – London Heathrow services on 17th February, 11th March and 24th March and no return QF10 services on 18th February, 12th March and 25th March.

It's not unusual for airlines to do this at specific times when demand is low. Judging by the load figures I've heard about from very reliable sources, QF9/10 (at least through to DXB) is performing to expectation.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

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'Commercial factors' - airline speak for 'low demand', presumably. Not operating it saves money but wouldn't it mean that the pilots and cabin crew may have to travel back home on a flight ('deadheading' as the Yanks call it?)

If that crew paxed back who would fly that a/c home? They don't have spare crews floating around DXB & LHR on the off chance they may be needed.

 

[mannej]

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Without risk of infraction -

 

[Melburnian1]

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Looks like more problems for one of QF's 12 A380s:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...rn-back-to-dubai/story-fni0fit3-1226868116352

Although it is now 1612 in DXB (2312 in MEL or SYD), the replacement aircraft does not appear to have departed DXB, so if that does not occur for another hour or two, either QF2 or QF10 will be late ex LHR on Friday 28 March 2014.

Happy days. It may be simply bad luck that a couple of failures have occurred in the last fortnight: after all, the 11 of 12 QF A380s that are on flights to HKG, LAX or LHR do a lot of kilometres. One assumes that most or all of the 347 affected passengers from DXB to LHR who do not reside in DXB have spent the day in a Dubai hotel courtesy of QF.

 

[Kefci2000]

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And this hot on the heals of QF9 mot running 2 weeks ago due to mech problems

 

[Melburnian1]

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Kefci2000, yes, that was to what I was referring. My apologies for not explicitly stating that.

The replacement for QF9 (which strictly might now be QF9D if normal practice for a delayed flight is followed) has just departed DXB at about 1634 local time and appears to be VH-OQI, although www.flightradar24.com's times of departure and arrival seem to be confused with today (Friday's QF9 that departed MEL this afternoon.

With a bit of luck the replacement flight should arrive in LHR about 1950 local time, in reasonable time to form QF10 but with not much time to form QF2. The latter is the usual roster if I recall (i.e. QF9 becomes QF2 and QF1 becomes QF10 at LHR).

 

[Brettmcg]

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Although it is now 1612 in DXB (2312 in MEL or SYD), the replacement aircraft does not appear to have departed DXB, so if that does not occur for another hour or two, either QF2 or QF10 will be late ex LHR on Friday 28 March

That would no doubt be the reason tomorrow's (29MAR) QF127 to HKG has been changed to a 744 at short notice, where usually it would be operated by a 380. That would suggest that QF2 is the flight to be affected as DXB-SYD-HKG-SYD is usually the rotation/pattern.

 

[nlagalle]

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must be a quiet night...

 

[Melburnian1]

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nlagalle, a QF plane having to turn back after experiencing engine trouble is obviously of interest to the 'Herald Sun', which happens to be Australia's largest selling newspaper each day (strictly the 'Sunday Herald Sun' is the leader, but on the other six days the stablemate outsells any other Australian newspaper). It's even more topical with the recent MH370 seemingly tragic event. 'The Herald Sun' editor and sub editors presumably have terrific news judgement, having built the paper (and its website, which admittedly doesn't get as many views as the Fairfax 'Age' and 'SMH' sites) up over the years (even if print readership is now declining).

It's also of interest to those passengers (including AFFers) who may join QF2 on Friday night at LHR, or on Saturday morning at DXB, along with those travelling to HKG who may later face a change of aircraft type as noted by another member above.

Many AFFers like to get their favourite seat on a plane and spend time and effort obtaining it. If the aircraft type changes, that may mean some nimble footwork by AFFers booked on (in this case) the HKG flight ex SYD tomorrow (Saturday), so they may appreciate the extra notice to snaffle the best seat that they can on the replacement 744.

If it's of no interest to you, you are under no obligation to read this thread. Posting photos of a yawning cat is hardly a productive use of bandwidth.

Some of us who rarely patronise QF may regard the media and AFF huge interest in QF's changes (including downgrading of discount flight points earnings) to its FF program of little or no personal interest, but we let the discussion flow and don't interrupt it with puerile photos of non aviation related subjects. Perhaps you might be kind enough to do the same even if you regard QF as saintly and above criticism.

 

[Orca]

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nlagelle...If it's of no interest to you, you are under no obligation to read this thread. Posting photos of a yawning cat is hardly a productive use of bandwidth.

I personally enjoyed the yawning cat FWIW, although I don't much like cats in general.

 

[Brettmcg]

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Doqf2/27mar
* operational flight info * qf 2 -1 th 27mar
city info hour (local)

lhr left the gate 2121
took off 2142
estimated time of arrival 0815 dxb
dxb aircraft landed 0810
arrived 0816
syd landing cancel 0704z
dxbsyd leg canx due oql mech

 

[ketsuzei]

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I preferred the cat to the dog, but am keen to see a rabbit.

 

[nlagalle]

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nlagalle, a QF plane having to turn back after experiencing engine trouble is obviously of interest to the 'Herald Sun', which happens to be Australia's largest selling newspaper each day (strictly the 'Sunday Herald Sun' is the leader, but on the other six days the stablemate outsells any other Australian newspaper). It's even more topical with the recent MH370 seemingly tragic event. 'The Herald Sun' editor and sub editors presumably have terrific news judgement, having built the paper (and its website, which admittedly doesn't get as many views as the Fairfax 'Age' and 'SMH' sites) up over the years (even if print readership is now declining).

It's also of interest to those passengers (including AFFers) who may join QF2 on Friday night at LHR, or on Saturday morning at DXB, along with those travelling to HKG who may later face a change of aircraft type as noted by another member above.

Many AFFers like to get their favourite seat on a plane and spend time and effort obtaining it. If the aircraft type changes, that may mean some nimble footwork by AFFers booked on (in this case) the HKG flight ex SYD tomorrow (Saturday), so they may appreciate the extra notice to snaffle the best seat that they can on the replacement 744.

If it's of no interest to you, you are under no obligation to read this thread. Posting photos of a yawning cat is hardly a productive use of bandwidth.

Seems cats are more noticeable than puppies... looks like o got a winner..

I hardly call it so news worthy because the Herald Sun picked it up.. You might want to delve a bit deeper and see what else gets published.. oh and BTW the Sunday herald Sun isn't the biggest selling paper in the country - the Sunday Telegraph in Sydney is.. But I digress..

And?? what if no one from this board is on either flight? I don't think i am the only one who's a bit over the constant dribble here, especially when a lot of posts has had incorrect posts..

oh and bandwidth, i think the cat takes up about as much as some of these posts.. but he is cuter...

 

[Brettmcg]

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nlagalle, a QF plane having to turn back after experiencing engine trouble is obviously of interest to the 'Herald Sun', which happens to be Australia's largest selling newspaper each day (strictly the 'Sunday Herald Sun' is the leader, but on the other six days the stablemate outsells any other Australian newspaper). It's even more topical with the recent MH370 seemingly tragic event. 'The Herald Sun' editor and sub editors presumably have terrific news judgement, having built the paper (and its website, which admittedly doesn't get as many views as the Fairfax 'Age' and 'SMH' sites) up over the years.

Some of us who rarely patronise QF may regard the media and AFF huge interest in QF's changes (including downgrading of discount flight points earnings) to its FF program of little or no personal interest, but we let the discussion flow and don't interrupt it with puerile photos of non aviation related subjects. Perhaps you might be kind enough to do the same even if you regard QF as saintly and above criticism.

Two points: Just quietly, I don't think nlagalle needs a history lesson/company education on News Corp. I'm sure he can explain the reasons why

Secondly, strictly speaking this isn't an aviation forum, rather it is a portal to discuss all aspects of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program as per the subcategory description. Accordingly, other posters have every right to question whether this vein of discussion would not be better suited to one of the more technical/aviation related forums or subcategories.

 

[nlagalle]

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nlagalle, a QF plane having to turn back after experiencing engine trouble is obviously of interest to the 'Herald Sun', which happens to be Australia's largest selling newspaper each day (strictly the 'Sunday Herald Sun' is the leader, but on the other six days the stablemate outsells any other Australian newspaper). It's even more topical with the recent MH370 seemingly tragic event. 'The Herald Sun' editor and sub editors presumably have terrific news judgement, having built the paper (and its website, which admittedly doesn't get as many views as the Fairfax 'Age' and 'SMH' sites) up over the years (even if print readership is now declining).

Please lets not get into a discussion on newspapers. I believe i have pulled you up on it once before pointing out where you were wrong and I can assure you you don't know what you are talking about with newspapers!

Some of us who rarely patronise QF may regard the media and AFF huge interest in QF's changes (including downgrading of discount flight points earnings) to its FF program of little or no personal interest, but we let the discussion flow and don't interrupt it with puerile photos of non aviation related subjects. Perhaps you might be kind enough to do the same even if you regard QF as saintly and above criticism.

May I remind you that we are on a "Frequent Flyer" site where we learn about the tricks of flying. If i want to know the ins and outs of every plane, I'd look on a plane spotters website for that. Oh and I have given Qantas plenty of stick in the past but at the same time, if you are constantly bashing QF and their performance in the air.. at least be unbiased and compare with VA and some others too.. you never mention those.