Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[MEL_Traveller]

As the airport was on my way into town, I tried my luck. Everything was full, I'm doing ok being on a 5pm flight. So in the the city for lunch!

worth noting there's a big difference between 'everything full' and actually being full. It's no different to airlines overbooking... the chances someone doesn't make it for whatever reason are reasonably high. But appreciate a relaxing day is more fun than hanging around an airport!

 

[TysonC]

But appreciate a relaxing day is more fun than hanging around an airport!

Totally agree. Unless you have lounge excess, there isn't much to do at the airports in Australia.

 

[sjd]

Totally agree. Unless you have lounge excess, there isn't much to do at the airports in Australia.

And my lounge access evaporated last year. Having a delicious lunch

 

[Melburnian1]

Totally agree. Unless you have lounge excess, there isn't much to do at the airports in Australia.

Q. What is 'lounge excess?'
A. (a) pot belly from too much lounge lizarding (b) happiness or a state of melancholy brought about by numerous reds or James Boags from three hours prior to departure until the boarding call (c) a huge sense of self importance (d) constant visits such that one is mistaken by lounge angels for the furniture.

 

[Melburnian1]

Earlier on Saturday 19 August, QF93 (0915 hours MEL - LAX A388) departed at 1035 with same day arrival suggested as 0727 hours, 52 late.

Friday 18's QF12 departed JFK 71 minutes tardy at 1921, arriving LAX at 2236 hours, 96 minutes behind schedule. The different aircraft but same flight number then pushed back at 0038 today (128 late) meaning expected Sunday 20 August arrival at 0811 hours, 111 minutes behind time.

The BNE-bound QF16 then departed at 0107 hours on Saturday 19 (107 minutes late) with the prediction being an 0725 hours, 75 minute late arrival on Sunday 20 August.

On this occasion QF94 was not held in LAX and is predicted to be five minutes late into MEL at 0700 on Sunday morning.

In addition to tonight's QF25 (SYD - HND) not departing until 1340 hours on Sunday 20 August, QF27 tomorrow (SYD to SCL) has been altered to commence pushing back at 1455 instead of the normal 1230 hours. These delays are due to QF27 and QF63 suffering overnight delays and departing this morning from SYD as noted above.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Q. What is 'lounge excess?'
A. (a) pot belly from too much lounge lizarding (b) happiness brought about by numerous reds or James Boags from three hours prior to departure until the boarding call (c) a huge sense of self importance (d) constant visits such that one is mistaken by lounge angels for the furniture.

or (e), the OP is from Nieuw Zulland?

 

[Melburnian1]

The overnight delayed QF27 from SYD to SCL, B744 VH-OEH arrived at 0730 on Saturday 19 August, 1140 minutes (or almost 20 hours) late. QF28 back to SYD was timetabled to depart at 1430 hours on Friday 18, but was retimed to a 1000 Saturday 19 departure. As I write it is 1009 in Chile: the aircraft has yet to push back. SYD arrival is claimed for 1305 hours on Sunday 20 August when the aircraft was originally to then return to SCL, as noted above, departure being delayed to an expected 1455 ex SYD. However the latter duty appears to be allocated to VH-OEG that is on tonight's QF128, the 2015 hours HKG - SYD that is on time for a SYD Sunday 20 0710 hours arrival.

The similarly overnight delayed QF63, B744 VH-OJT from SYD to JNB arrived at 1338 on Saturday 19, 1118 minutes late (almost 19 hours) late. QF64 is anticipated to shortly depart at 1530 hours JNB time with SYD arrival on Sunday 20 at 1115 to form the overnight delayed B744 from SYD to NRT at a changed mid afternoon 1340 hours departure.

UPDATE: On Saturday 19 August, QF28 pushed back in SCL at 1031 hours.

 

[nowmedia]

I got caught up in the wild weather that engulfed SYD on Friday night. Ex BNE I was going to be delayed at least an hour but noted that a handful of flights were cancelled with pax being informed that they would have to fly the next morning. I also had a mate on FB who was trying to fly VA in desparation to get out of SYD. I was sitting on the floor of the QF club and a significant delay would mean that I would miss my regional train on landing resulting in getting home after midnight. I decided to offer at the upstairs service desk to be bumped to a Saturday morning flight. The (polite and incredulous) response - we dont bump voluntarily unless you want to pay for your own accomodation. I was happy to fly home the next morning if it meant someone who HAD to be home that night could do so but wasnt going to do it if it cost me a hotel and taxis. Has anyone else ever offered to be bumped domestically and been declined? Or accepted?

 

[Melburnian1]

Sunday 20 August has QF130, the overnight PVG - SYD (A333 VH-QPD) likely to arrive at 0918, 48 minutes behind schedule.

QF127, the 1000 SYD - HKG has a revised projected departure at 1030, half an hour tardy.

 

[Quickstatus]

I got caught up in the wild weather that engulfed SYD on Friday night. Ex BNE I was going to be delayed at least an hour but noted that a handful of flights were cancelled with pax being informed that they would have to fly the next morning. I also had a mate on FB who was trying to fly VA in desparation to get out of SYD. I was sitting on the floor of the QF club and a significant delay would mean that I would miss my regional train on landing resulting in getting home after midnight. I decided to offer at the upstairs service desk to be bumped to a Saturday morning flight. The (polite and incredulous) response - we dont bump voluntarily unless you want to pay for your own accomodation. I was happy to fly home the next morning if it meant someone who HAD to be home that night could do so but wasnt going to do it if it cost me a hotel and taxis. Has anyone else ever offered to be bumped domestically and been declined? Or accepted?

As soon as you offer to voluntarily delay a flight you will not get any compo. Unless they ask first for volunteers. Essentially it's the same as asking to change your flight.
Yes rules are rules but as you say there are always circumstances where it may be beneficial for 3 parties - you, airline, desperate passenger. Passengers by definition don't come first unless it benefits the airline

 

[jb747]

Presumably all of the cancellations from Sydney, were more or less matched by previous cancelled arriving services...which would mean that neither the aircraft or crews that were to operate them would have been in Sydney.

Whilst Sydney is the largest crew base, only a couple of standby crews actually exist on any day. And once they've been used...they're gone.

 

[Melburnian1]

Presumably all of the cancellations from Sydney, were more or less matched by previous cancelled arriving services...

Normally that would be true but from what was observed on Friday late afternoon and night, there was an imbalance, possibly related to how quickly cancellations had to be determined.

Confusing matters further, a couple of southbound SYD - MEL flights that were advised as cancelled in the end operated, which is quite unusual.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Sunday 20 August 2017, QF63 is showing as delayed 40 minutes in its departure (to 1130) from SYD for JNB, but that time has passed.

The afternoon delay to QF27 (SYD-SCL) has blown out to a predicted 1555 hours departure, 205 minutes tardy, as QF28 (delayed) is coming in at 1346. This will ensure QF28 arriving back in SYD on Monday 21 August is delayed: if the tardiness of today's QF27 increases much more, arriving back prior to the SYD curfew may be a problem. Sometimes this flight forms QF25, the 2045 hours SYD - HND so in a worst case on Monday night that may be another overnight delay for a member of the B744 fleet.

 

[Melburnian1]

The overnight delayed QF25 departed SYD at 1346 on Sunday 20 August; HND arrival should be at 2215. QF26 will therefore depart at 2359 instead of 2200 for a Monday 21 estimated SYD arrival at 1025, two hours behind schedule.

The similarly delayed QF28 from SCL arrived in SYD at 1350 hours.

 

[Flyerqf]

Sometimes this flight forms QF25, the 2045 hours SYD - HND so in a worst case on Monday night that may be another overnight delay for a member of the B744 fleet.

QF64 could form the QF25, if QF28 was late inbound.

 

[Melburnian1]

Sunday 20 August's delayed QF27, the 1230 hours, departed at 1557 with B744 VH-OEH taking off quite promptly from SYD at 1614 for the long trip to Chile's SCL, where arrival is estimated same day at 1505 hours, 175 minutes tardy.

Althou8gh today's QF28 is publicly displaying as one time in its pushing back at 1430 hours Chile time, that needs to be amended to - at a guess - 1645 hours or later. Likely SYD arrival on Monday 21 will be after 1840 hours.

The SYD - ABX QS1513, the 1535 hours departed 38 minutes late, so arrival in the Border City (sometimes in the past referred to as 'Twin Cities' although that's also true of Tweed Heads and Coolangatta to name one) is predicted as 1724 hours, 34 minutes behind schdule.

 

[Melburnian1]

A332 VH-EBD on QF401, first of Monday morning's (21 August's) southbounds from SYD to MEL at a scheduled 0600 departure had somewhat of a lazy lie-in with takeoff at 0734. Arrival is predicted 83 late at 0858, no doubt to the annoyance of some Monday Morning besuited gents and business attired ladies who will be ringing and apologising for being late to that 0915 hours CBD meeting.

The Sunday 20 August delayed QF27 from SYD to SCL departed at 1557, 207 minutes tardy, arriving SCL at 1545. QF28 then commenced its trip at 1801, 211 minutes behind schedule with projected Monday 21 August evening arrival at 2025, 165 minutes late.

 

[milehighclub]

QF7 is delayed 24 hours

 

[Melburnian1]

Earlier on Monday 21 August, QF23, which has been delayed on many recent occasions despite previously having been good in its timekeeping departed SYD 49 minutes tardy at 1039. BKK arrival is expected 40 late at 1720 this afternoon.

Unusually, QF11 departed SYd an hour behind at 1050. Arrival should be 31 minutes late at 0701 hours same day.

The 1205 hours SYD - MNL (QF19), another flight that has been late a few times in recent weeks (though not as often as QF23) pushed back in olde Sydney town at 1304 (59 late.) Resultant arrival is suggested as 1909, 39 minutes tardy.

One I did not pick up yesterday (Sunday 20) was QF1 that also unusually departed 127 minutes late from SYD at 1757. The DXB stop on Monday 21 was from 0204 to 0335 (85 late) with LHR arrival expected at 0740 hours, 45 minutes late. This shows on a gate-to-gate basis (SYD to LHR) how with favourable operating conditions and partly by reducing the duration of the intermediate stop that quite a bit can be gained on the timetable.

Sunday 20 August's QF16 departed LAX on time at 2320 but arrival on Tuesday 22 is not predicted until 0650, 40 late. This should not delay QF15, the mid morning 1020 hours ex BNE for LAX as it has a pretty generous turnaround.

The Sunday QF8 pushed back in DFW at 2240 hours, 25 minutes late; Tuesday morning arrival is estimated as 0640, 35 late.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Tuesday 22 August, QF130, the redeye from PVG down to SYD (A333 VH-QPH) is likely to arrive 95 minutes late at 1005 hours.

QF1562 (0625 hours CNS up to BNE, B717 VH-YQV) did not take off at 0857 hours. The inevitable result is arrival delayed until a suggested 1219 hours, 124 minutes late. This aircraft must have been switched to replace a defective 'colleague' sitting in CBR, as this morning YQV earlier operated QF1543 from BNE to CBR that arrived at about 0820 hours, 54 minutes late with an extremely quick turnaround - impressive - for QF1562. Meanwhile QF1529, the 0845 hours CBR - MEL was cancelled.