Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Flyerqf]

Actually QF117/118 are 388 7 days a week at the moment (since 10/12 in fact).

Yes exactly - in previous years it’s only been upgraded to 5 days pw allowing the Tues QF11 to be an A380. This year they’ve opted for 7 days of QF117/118 as 388 operation and leaving QF11/12 as 6 days.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF2 depart 25.12 (from DXB) has been further delayed another 1.5 hrs to not depart DXB at 1050 on 26.12

 

[Flyerqf]

QF2 depart 25.12 (from DXB) has been further delayed another 1.5 hrs to not depart DXB at 1050 on 26.12

It has now been delayed a further 40 mins (which is in 7 mins time).

The same flight for 26.12 is also delayed but only by 3 hours. It’s due to depart 1 hour after the above mentioned 25.12 departure.

 

[Flyerqf]

It has now been delayed a further 40 mins (which is in 7 mins time).

The same flight for 25.12 is also delayed but only by 3 hours. It’s due to depart 1 hour after the above mentioned 24.12 departure.

Well the 25/12 QF2 departed as QF2 just after midday on 26/12.

The 26/12 QF2 is delayed until 1350 departure (originally 0935) now and will depart as QF2D.

 

[jb747]

QF94 ex LAX on Christmas Eve does not look to be delayed.

Most definitely not...pushed about 2 minutes early, and arrived about 20 minutes ahead of the plan.

 

[Melburnian1]

FlyerQF, the QF website suggests that QF2 (ex LHR Sunday 24 December at 2244, 119 late) that arrived DXB on Christmas Day at 0927 hours has departed DXB after a 26 hours stay at 1141 today (Tuesday 26, Boxing Day) with suggested SYD arrival on Wednesday 27 at 0832 hours, 26 hours and two minutes behind schedule.

The 25 December QF2D departed DXB on Boxing Day at 1402 hours for an expected 0925 hours, 175 minutes late arrival in SYD on Wednesday 27 December.

Ot might be a while since QF2 and QF2D have been suggested as arriving in SYD within an hour of each other.

In the other direction, the overnight delayed QF9 that departed MEL at 0759 hours on Boxing Day should arrive DXB at 1455 hours, 505 minutes late. QF has it down for a 1555 hours local time departure: so far a stop of only an hour has not been observed: maybe the minimum achievable is around 75 - 80 minutes. LHR arrival is displaying as a projected 1950 hours on Boxing Day, 430 minutes tardy.

This late QF9 will delay the Boxing Day 2045 hours ex LHR QF2, although so far that delay is not displaying on the QF website.

 

[Melburnian1]

A388 VH-OQB on the overnight delayed QF9 arrived in DXB at 1455 hours on Boxing Day. Unusually (though not unprecedented) it looks to not be continuing on to LHR.

So VH-OQH may operate the second QF9 sector between DXB and LHR?

Flyerqf, milehighclub or MEL_Traveller, is there any 'gain' to QF from this swapping in DXB? While it might allow catering to be loaded on earlier on VH-OQH (as this aircraft arrived DXB at 1018 this morning on QF2), it also means ULDs (containers) of luggage and perhaps freight and mail have to be transferred from one A388 to another.

 

[Flyerqf]

A388 VH-OQB on the overnight delayed QF9 arrived in DXB at 1455 hours on Boxing Day. Unusually (though not unprecedented) it looks to not be continuing on to LHR.

So VH-OQH may operate the second QF9 sector between DXB and LHR?

Flyerqf, milehighclub or MEL_Traveller, is there any 'gain' to QF from this swapping in DXB? While it might allow catering to be loaded on earlier on VH-OQH (as this aircraft arrived DXB at 1018 this morning on QF2), it also means ULDs (containers) of luggage and perhaps freight and mail have to be transferred from one A388 to another.

OQH is enroute to SYD as QF2 (26/12) so if OQB isn’t continuing on to LHR, then the flight is cancelled as there are no other 388 aircraft at DXB.

 

[Melburnian1]

Thanks Flyerqf. This may be a case of FR24 not keeping up. It and some other sites get 'confused' on occasion when there are significant delays, exacerbated by how there may be (as an extreme example) up to three (say) QF2/QF2Ds operating between LHR and SYD. On this occasion, I didn't look at other sources - but should have.

 

[davidj]

On this occasion, I didn't look at other sources - but should have.

Perhaps the information with most value is sourced from actual airport staff or pax with reasons for the delay, and not just regurgitating already available information? Just saying.

 

[Melburnian1]

Point taken, davidj, but none of us can be everywhere at once. The threads also at times disclose 'patterns' of late flights. History may not be a perfect guide to what will occur, as every day is different, but it can give travellers an idea of which carriers tend to run on time more than others.

On Tuesday 26 December, the delayed QF9 departed DXB at 1644, 49 minutes later than QF had latterly predicted. LHR arrival should be at around 2055 hours, 495 minutes late. QF2 from LHR may be able to depart from 2240 onwards, but last night's not as badly delayed arrival took longer than that to turn around.

 

[Melburnian1]

Wednesday 27 December sees the delayed QF2 ex DXB arriving SYD at 1047 hours, 257 late. QF11 to LAX is likely to depart 75 minutes late at 1245 early this afternoon.

The more heavily delayed QF9 arrived LHR at 2027 on Boxing Day, 467 minutes behind schedule. The 26 December QF2 from LHR to DXB and SYD departed at 2247, 122 minutes late. DXB Wednesday 27 arrival is predicted two hours late at 0955 hours.

 

[Flying mermaid]

QF2130 MEL-CBR delayed 60 minutes and counting. Sigh - just what we need after a long (albeit very pleasant) flight from the States

 

[Melburnian1]

Earlier on Wednesday 27 December, QF27, the B744 at a scheduled 1250 hours from SYD departed 27 minutes late. Arrival should be at 1144, 34 late.

QF11 from SYD to LAX did not depart until 1420 hours, 170 minutes late. Arrival is predicted same day as 0820 hours, 120 minutes tardy.

Its northerly colleague, QF15 from BNE to LAX pushed back 40 late at 1200 'high noon' and should be in the movie capital at 0635 hours, 35 minutes behind time.

QF7, the scheduled 1440 hours long flight from SYD to DFW has been delayed on quite a few occasions in recent weeks. Today was another, with departure at 1715 hours suggesting arrival (same day) at 1510, 130 minutes late. A388 VH-OQC had arrived five minutes late at 0835 in SYD on 27 December so there is no obvious reason for the delay.

Tuesday 26's QF12 commenced its transcontinental USA journey at 1843, 43 late from JFK. Arrival in LAX was 53 minutes late at 2148.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF94 pushed back on 26/12 but returned to the gate. It’s now 4.5 hours later and has not departed.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF94 pushed back on 26/12 but returned to the gate. It’s now 4.5 hours later and has not departed.

Oh dear, QF16 is currently dumping fuel and about to commence decent back into LAX. It will land approx 3 hours after its initial take off. No indication on the cause.

 

[I love to travel]

Please don't flame me but you do need to feel a little sorry for Qantas at the moment, they seem to be having issue after issue.

 

[Flyerqf]

Please don't flame me but you do need to feel a little sorry for Qantas at the moment, they seem to be having issue after issue.

I do feel sorry for them and their passengers. It often happens to qantas during peak periods and often multiple issues all at once which compounds the issues. Some people say they work the fleet too hard but often it’s due to their strict safety standards, which nobody would question.

The only criticism I seem to read is about customer service particularly how they handle these long delays.

 

[Melburnian1]

A388 VH-OQE ended up departing LAX on QF94 at 0309 hours, 304 minutes late and has taken off. Would the original crew be operating it, or was a substitute flight (and cabin?) crew called in?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Some people say they work the fleet too hard but often it’s due to their strict safety standards, which nobody would question.

but that would be to imply that only QF has the highest safety standards? Which is not true. Most airlines strive to have safety as their first priority. Working your fleet to the limits does mean however that you can't recover as well. While an airline is free to decide the standards under which it will operate, the resulting delays can be questioned. Which is what EU261 does every day.

There's a thread in the bulletin board section of ausbt commenting on one of the delayed QF flights where pax were held on board for 9 hours. Once they arrived at Dubai, QF passengers talked to Air France passengers, also diverted to Al Ain. According to the post, Air France passengers were only kept on board for 2.5 hours before being bused, with their luggage, to Dubai hotels.

Fog diversions at Dubai aren't rare. What were the circumstances allowing Air France to rescue their passengers but QF could not?