Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Jacques Vert]

QF33 to KIX today departed nearly five and a half hours late. The return QF34 is now not scheduled to depart KIX until 0130! Something must have gone seriously wrong.

Well QF33 has finally arrived in KIX at 00:37. A great time to arrive: last JR train left about an hour ago, next one is around 05:50

 

[Melburnian1]

Fog in MEL is hindering timekeeping on the morning of Thursday 28 June 2018.

B738 VH-XZM on QF461, the 0845 hours SYD - MEL was held over the Snowy Mountains and then Mt Buller so arrival is suggested as 1121 hours, 61 late.

QF811 (B738 VH-VYG, the 0945 hours mid morning CBR down to MEL that took off about 15 late at 1015 was held en route above the same two locations as QF461, so 811 should arrive at 1147, 52 minutes late. To add an extra 50 per cent to the timetable with these holds shows how poorly MEL copes with adverse weather.

VH-XZD on QF419, the 0900 hours SYD - MEL is similarly afflicted with arrival suggested as about 1152 hours, 77 late.

QF471 (VH-BVXM, the 0915 hours SYD down to MEL that took off at 1009 emerged from its Mt Buller hold at about 1138 so arrival is probable at 1201, 71 late.

Colleague B738 VH-VZZ on QF421, the 0930 hours southbound remained in a Mt Buller holding pattern at 1137 hours so its scheduled arrival at gate of 1105 is likely to be post-1205.

 

[Melburnian1]

Continuing with the foggy Thursday 28 June 2018 in Melbourne, QF678 from ADL (B738 VH-VXF) is arriving at about 1238 hours, 43 late after being in an extensive hold above Bendigo.

A332 VH-EBJ, the 1000 hours SYD - MEL that took off at 1057 should arrive at around the 1243 hours mark, 68 minutes late. 'Controlled departures' from other airports would almost certainly be in use today, as AFFer Quickstatus discussed quite a few posts back.

The CBR - MEL QF853 (B738 VH-VZC) is arriving at 1250 hours, 40 minutes late.

Contrast this unpunctuality today with high speed rail's timekeeping record overseas. Latter can be close to perfect in many countries in all sorts of weather conditions, yet our politicians decline to build this on the lower east coast. Far more reliable than the airlines, and more comfortable than sitting in a B738 or A320.

 

[flychrisfly]

Contrast this unpunctuality today with high speed rail's timekeeping record overseas. Latter can be close to perfect in many countries in all sorts of weather conditions, yet our politicians decline to build this on the lower east coast. Far more reliable than the airlines, and more comfortable than sitting in a B738 or A320.

Hmmm, a bit OT but in Japan they cancel any services that may run late due to bad weather. Hardly reliable even if the services that run are punctual.

 

[Melburnian1]

Continuing with Thursday 28 June 2018, QF2050, the 0630 hours DPO - MEL is showing as having taken off at 0639 but since it is arriving at 1251 instead of 0735 hours, 316 minutes late, it must have taken off for the complete trip much later. Aircraft is Q400 VH-QOP.

The 1110 hours MEL - BNE, QF614 (B738 VH-VXA) was airborne at 1244 so predicted arrival at 1447 this afternoon will be 87 minutes late. Southbound opposite number QF615 (VH-VYA) was only about 10 minutes late in taking off from BNE at 1024 this morning but as at 1254 hours was in a holding pattern east of Bendigo so the prediction of an arrival at 1306, 41 minutes late appears to well understate the likely delay.

VH-VYJ on QF427 (1100 SYD down to MEL) should arrive at around 1315 hours, 40 minutes late.

Northbound QF426 has B738 VH-XZH and took off at 1256 so arrival in the harbour city should be at about 1410, 105 minutes late.

 

[Melburnian1]

Earlier on Thursday 28 June 2018, QF79 departed MEL 45 minutes late at 1020 on QF79 to NRT, with arrival predicted as 1945 tonight also 45 late.

QF94 from LAX had also diverted to SYD due to fog, with its unscheduled intermediate stop from 0709 to 0800 hours and MEL arrival at 0939, 129 late.

QF19, the 1210 hours lunchtime SYD up to MNL did not depart until 1424 hours, so arrival is suggested as 2020 tonight, 110 minutes late. Overnight QF20 back down to SYD, the 2000 hours will be delayed until about 2130 but usually picks up some time on a gate to gate basis. One fly in the ointment is with QF19 late, it may have to hold coming into the busy MNL NAIA airport so a 2020 arrival is not guaranteed.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Interesting. Both the QF45 MEL-DPS and the QF43 SYD-DPS today were both diverted in flight and have returned to their respective origins! At least according to flightaware. Wonder what's going on?

JQ116 PER-DPS showing as cancelled. JQ127 ADL-DPS cancelled.

 

[Melburnian1]

Interesting. Both the QF45 MEL-DPS and the QF43 SYD-DPS today were both diverted in flight and have returned to their respective origins! At least according to flightaware. Wonder what's going on?

JQ116 PER-DPS showing as cancelled. JQ127 ADL-DPS cancelled.

The media is reporting that Mt Agung has again erupted. I haven't yet read the articles but must be reasonably serious as this means not only do northbound passengers from Australia fail to get to DPS but soon there'll be a backlog of 1000 people booked on flights who have to sleep at DPS airport or find accommodation. As discovered last time (not really news - we all know it's true) many don't have travel insurance and some, sadly, end up with no money due to relying on cash when they travel or having a low credit card limit that is soon exceeded.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

The media is reporting that Mt Agung has again erupted. I haven't yet read the articles but must be reasonably serious as this means not only do northbound passengers from Australia fail to get to DPS but soon there'll be a backlog of 1000 people booked on flights who have to sleep at DPS airport or find accommodation. As discovered last time (not really news - we all know it's true) many don't have travel insurance and some, sadly, end up with no money due to relying on cash when they travel or having a low credit card limit that is soon exceeded.

I noticed with many Bali hotels that they have a volcano message on their website that if it erupts, they'll provide free accommodation to those staying at the hotel but unable to fly out. Travel insurance may not cover people anyway as this is considered a known event now.

 

[Himeno]

The media is reporting that Mt Agung has again erupted. I haven't yet read the articles but must be reasonably serious as this means not only do northbound passengers from Australia fail to get to DPS but soon there'll be a backlog of 1000 people booked on flights who have to sleep at DPS airport or find accommodation. As discovered last time (not really news - we all know it's true) many don't have travel insurance and some, sadly, end up with no money due to relying on cash when they travel or having a low credit card limit that is soon exceeded.

Yep. Darwin VAAC is showing an ash forecast.
Mt Agung is in the NE of Bali. The ash is moving WSW, over DPS, from surface to FL230.

 

[Pushka]

I noticed with many Bali hotels that they have a volcano message on their website that if it erupts, they'll provide free accommodation to those staying at the hotel but unable to fly out. Travel insurance may not cover people anyway as this is considered a known event now.

That depends on purchase date. We are covered as our Policy was booked on 21 November. If we’d purchased on the very next day it wouldn’t be.

 

[Melburnian1]

Pushka, interesting that you had the previous post as I was thinking of you when noticing that QF2, the overnight SIN - SYD has on Friday 29 June 2018 diverted to ADL, I assume because of fog in SYD.

A388 VH-OQC departed SIN on Thursday night (28 June) at 1939, nine minutes late but stopped in ADL from 0356 to 0545 (just a few minutes ago.) SYD arrival should be at 0750 instead of 0510.

I assume MEL was considered too foggy to be the alternate. Please correct me if this was a medical diversion.

UPDATE: As the 'SMH' reports and Flyerqf has indicated below, a lady died on board QF2 so that's why it was diverted to ADL, even though with latter's curfew not many on duty at the hour it landed.

 

[Melburnian1]

In further on Friday 29 June 2018, QF1543 (B717 VH-YQU, the 0610 hours BNE down to CBR that took off at 0721) should arrive at 0853 hours, 53 minutes late.

The ADL - CBR QF706 has B738 VH-VXI and should arrive at 0900 hours, 35 minutes late.

QF804, the 0700 hours MEL - CBR is worse with it having taken off at 0818, meaning arrival at 0906 hours, 61 minutes late for B738 VH-VXD.

The 0745 hours MEL up to SYD, QF402, took off at 0840 so a 46 minute tardy arrival at 0956 hours is the prediction for B738 VH-XZF.

 

[Ansett]

Diversion of QF2 to Adelaide seems to be result of a death on board.

Passenger death forces Qantas flight to divert

 

[Pushka]

Diversion of QF2 to Adelaide seems to be result of a death on board.

Passenger death forces Qantas flight to divert

I saw that on the news.com.au and as I clicked in it it disappeared.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF16 went to SYD this morning due to fog at BNE. The turnaround QF15 is now delayed 2 hours.

 

[Andyzx]

QF16 went to SYD this morning due to fog at BNE. The turnaround QF15 is now delayed 2 hours.

Took off from Syd at 9.15, it was funny watching a 747 fly past my window at that time in the morning and now


now doing loops over the Gold Coast, lets hope the drinks do not run out

 

[Melburnian1]

Updating Flyerqf, QF16 (B744 VH-OEI) is expected to arrive in BNE (ex SYD) at about 1057, as it was in a hold above Byronm Bay and Burleigh Heads given the congestion at Brisbane airport.

It will be delayed more than two hours, as departure time during winter is usually 1010 hours on the current timetabloe for QF15 from BNE to LAX. QF is suggesting a 1300 hours departure that seems realistic, meaning LAX arrival at 0835 hours, 155 minutes late.

In turn, assuming it operates, QF11 from LAX across to JFK on Friday 29 will be delayed, as will QF12 back, and possibly some LAX - Oz east coast flights (almost certainly QF16, and probably at least QF12 as well) on Friday night - the Sunday morning arrivals in Australia.

QF134 from AKL to BNE unusually diverted to OOL but as at 1111 hours was on the short leg from OOL to BNE with B738 VH-XZP nominally expected to arrive at 1128, but again this could be an underestimate as many aircraft are trying to do that. Usual BNE arrival is 0810 hours.

The PER - BNE QF652 (A332 VH-EBA), whose scheduled arrival in BNE is 0525 hours diverted to OOL as well, stopping from 0626 to what QF claims is 0850. FR24 more accurately suggests takeoff from OOL occurred at 1045 with BNE arrival predicted as 1140, 375 minutes late.

 

[Melburnian1]

In further BNE fog-related Friday 29 June 2018 delays, B738 VH-XZD on QF589, the 0820 hours BNE across to PER took off at about 1136 so arrival will be at least two and a half hours late.

The 0800 hours BNE down to MEL, QF611 (VH-VYI) took off at 1130 so arrival is forecast as 1342, 197 minutes behind schedule. The following 0900 ex BNE, QF613 took off 10 minutes behind with VH-VYA.

Delays of this magnitude on a Friday at the start of school holidays in states like Victoria are hard to recover from. If travelling tonight it will depend if your plane has been anywhere near BNE today, but expect quite a lot of unpunctuality.

 

[Melburnian1]

In further on Friday 29 June, QF129, the 0930 hours SYD up to PVG did not depart untilo 1126 hours, so arrival is put back to an expected 2026 hours this evening, 121 minutes late. QF130 back overnight will be late.

QF51 from BNE up to SIN often arrives early but that won't be the case today as departure is delayed by a predicted two hours.

The BNE fog also saw QF61 to NRT departing 195 minutes late at 1245 hours with arrival expected at 2045 tonight, 170 late. QF62 had diverted to CNS and did not arrive BNE until 1100 hours.

The BNE to HKG QF97 is timetabled to depart at 1045 but is not expected to do so today until a mid afternoon 1430.

The HKG and NRT flights sometimes change to form flights back overnight to MEL rather than BNE. I'm never quite sure what the point of this is: maintenance requirements in BNE?

QF11 from SYD to LAX, the 0935 hours departed at 1114 hours on 29 June so arrival is 0741, 81 late, not that it matters much for JFK-bound passengers due to the extremely late QF15 ex BNE that has yet to depart.