Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Flyerqf]

Will that mean domestic QF9/10 will be A330 again on thursday?

No. The 94 got chopped as the aircraft never left SYD as QF11 so wasn’t in position to operate 94 on Tuesday.

A 789 has positioned to MEL from SYD today to be in place to operate Thursday’s schedule.

 

[Melburnian1]

This is just a heads up ... the timing on QF35/QF36 MEL-SIN-MEL seems to be based on A332/A333 operation, consequently the B789 flights are regularly departing up to 55 minutes late, however arriving on time into both Singapore & Melbourne.

I didn't realise B789s were 'faster' than A332s/A333s. One source I looked up said similar cruising speeds. What am I missing?

 

[milehighclub]

This is just a heads up ... the timing on QF35/QF36 MEL-SIN-MEL seems to be based on A332/A333 operation, consequently the B789 flights are regularly departing up to 55 minutes late, however arriving on time into both Singapore & Melbourne.

If the aircraft are leaving late, it's because it's late -they are not holding the aircraft because it is a 787

 

[Melburnian1]

On Thursday 20 April 2022, QF2 ex LHR and more recently SIN arrived SYD at 0611 hours, 61 minutes late with A388 VH-OQD despite yesterday afternoon having pulled into its SIN gate at 1713 hours, 17 minutes early.

QF1 (VH-OQH) took off from SIN at 0045 hours so local time expected at gate LHR arrival becomes 0729 hours, 54 late.

Since the winter timetable change to an 0510 'by special permission' timetabled SYD arrival, QF2 has been a bit better but QF1 hasn't much improved on its terrible punctuality. On both, there's a very good chance of being an hour or more late arriving at either termini, unlike if one travels with the vast majority of competing carriers. There's a lot of choice of one-stop flights via a multitude of routes between Oz and London/Europe, and more if one is prepared to have two stops enroute.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF127 on Wednesday 19 April 2023 arrived HKG at 1821 hours, 31 minutes tardy with stalwart unrefurbished VH-OQL that as Flyerqf explained a few posts above usually operates the 127/128 yo-yo six days a week (exception ex Oz: Mondays).

However QF128 last night (the 1940 hours) was not airborne until 2122 mid evening, so on Thursday 20, gate arrival should be at about 0749 hours, 64 late. In theory the 1035 hours SYD-HKG QF127 should be able to punctually depart.

A332 VH-EBR on the Wednesday 19 0905 hours SYD up to BLR QF67 did not take off until 1144, arriving at gate at 1854, 154 minute sbehind the timetable. The redeye QF68 should arrive SYD today at 1210 hours, 125 late.

B789 VH-ZNK was on yesterday's QF63 SYD-JNB, arriving at 1740, an even 90 late, but the return is worse, with 'the 64' not airborne until 2019 so arrival this afternoon looks to be approximately 1622 hours, 157 minutes late.

A388 VH-OQK on the 19 April QF11 from SYD up to LAX arrived same day at 0937 hours, 152 late. B789 VH-ZNG on 'the 21' from MEL to DFW arrived at its gate on 19 April at 1526 hours, 101 late. ZNE was on QF7 (SYD-DFW yesterday) that was at its arrival gate at 1640, 35 behind.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF9 is a B789 (that rhymes!) on Thursday 20 April 2023 but this normal 1505 hours departure is expected to occur at 1900 tonight, meaning PER pushback is suggested as 2240 instead of 1845, so 235 minutes late ex the WA capital. Tomorrow, perhaps it may arrive LHR at around 0830 instead of 0505 if there are not further delays.

The 19 April QF75 (2025 hours ex SYD for YVR) took off at 2236 with arrival same day at 1914 hours, 109 minutes late for class leader B789 VH-ZNA.

Since arriving in MEL at 1802 hours on Tuesday 18 on an overnight delayed QF94, B789 VH-ZNC has not reentered service.

Today's (20) QF7, normally a 1540 hours mid afternoon ex Sydney, is awaiting the arrival of B789 VH-ZNK that should be at its gate (ex JNB) at 1705 (220 minutes tardy) this afternoon, and then depart on 'the 7' at approximately 1910 hours.

 

[Melburnian1]

Continuing with 20 April, QF68 (BLR-SYD redeye) arrived in Sydney with A332 VH-EBR at 1220 hours, 135 minutes late and promptly formed a delayed QF81 (the 1150 hours SYD up to SIN) airborne at 1432. Arrival should be at 2018, 123 late.

One of the QFi SIN-bound aircraft from SYD, MEL or BNE overnights in the Lion City as (from memory) FlyerQF informed us, but I can't recall which one.

 

[encryptededdy]

QF17 is cancelled (A380 SYD to LAX), ouch.

 

[789nerd]

This is just a heads up ... the timing on QF35/QF36 MEL-SIN-MEL seems to be based on A332/A333 operation, consequently the B789 flights are regularly departing up to 55 minutes late, however arriving on time into both Singapore & Melbourne.

Spoke too soon ...todays QF35 (B789 VH-ZND) was 132 minutes late pushing back in Sydney, with revised Singapore arrival posted as 19:35 local, 95 minutes late. Subject to a smooth Singapore turn-around, the return QF36 is shown as departing at 21:05, 50 minutes late, and arriving in Melbourne at 06:20 AEST Friday, 40 minutes late.

I didn't realise B789s were 'faster' than A332s/A333s. One source I looked up said similar cruising speeds. What am I missing?

I just reported what I was seeing - not reporting a departure delay once the on-time arrival was confirmed. FWIW, the delayed flight above is expected to make up 37 minutes again the schedule. Possibly a case of schedule padding as has been suggested earlier.

 

[789nerd]

QF9 is a B789 (that rhymes!) on Thursday 20 April 2023 but this normal 1505 hours departure is expected to occur at 1900 tonight, meaning PER pushback is suggested as 2240 instead of 1845, so 235 minutes late ex the WA capital. Tomorrow, perhaps it may arrive LHR at around 0830 instead of 0505 if there are not further delays.

It appears this delay is due to VH-ZNC being held in Melbourne Maintenance for longer than expected after its delayed arrival with QF94 on Tuesday, however the rescheduled departure time has passed with no sign of the aircraft.
The only other B789 in Melbourne at present is ZNB which has just arrived with QF10, and is scheduled for QF93 later this evening.

 

[milehighclub]

ZNC just got clearance to operate

 

[Flyerqf]

QF17 is cancelled (A380 SYD to LAX), ouch.

This is more or less a positioning flight to LAX maintenance base. However it goes back to SYD on Monday’s as QF12 (QF11 that day operated by a 789 that returns as QF18 on Thursdays) so there may be a cancellation on Monday or earlier to QF12.

 

[789nerd]

ZNC just got clearance to operate

and thus Thursday's QF9 departed Melbourne 4 hours 34 minutes late, arriving in Perth 3 hours 56 minutes late. The onwards leg to Heathrow is shown as 4 hours late at both ends, for a 9:05 BST arrival Friday morning.

 

[789nerd]

This (Thursday) afternoon's QF10 LHR-PER (B789 VH-ZNI) was 50 minutes late pushing back at Heathrow, and is currently shown as only making up 3 minutes into Perth. If that delay holds, then the onwards PER-MEL sector will likely also be delayed, which in turn may impact on Friday's QF93.

 

[Flyerqf]

This is more or less a positioning flight to LAX maintenance base. However it goes back to SYD on Monday’s as QF12 (QF11 that day operated by a 789 that returns as QF18 on Thursdays) so there may be a cancellation on Monday or earlier to QF12.

It was the Thursday QF12 that got the chop.

 

[encryptededdy]

Just sat on the plane/tarmac for about 1h30m in Melbourne on QF699 due to a shortage of refuellers. It looks like we're just gonna make the Adelaide curfew.

 

[789nerd]

This (Thursday) afternoon's QF10 LHR-PER (B789 VH-ZNI) was 50 minutes late pushing back at Heathrow, and is currently shown as only making up 3 minutes into Perth. If that delay holds, then the onwards PER-MEL sector will likely also be delayed, which in turn may impact on Friday's QF93.

As anticipated, the PER-MEL sector of QF10 was delayed 47 minutes, which translated into a 40 minute delay into Melbourne. Then a slight slippage, with the departure of QF93 (MEL-DFW) delayed 66 minutes, for an anticipated Dallas arrival at 18:49 CDT Friday, 64 minutes late.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF76 has been delayed overnight. Now scheduled for a 0900 departure, 10.5 hours late.

As a result, Monday’s QF11 is delayed 8 hours.

 

[789nerd]

QF76 has been delayed overnight. Now scheduled for a 0900 departure, 10.5 hours late.

As a result, Monday’s QF11 is delayed 8 hours.

The aircraft concerned, B789 VH-ZNA, continues to be delayed. It is now operating QF94 LAX-MEL after a 3 hour 40 minute departure delay, with revised Melbourne arrival of 10:34 AEST Wednesday, a further 9 minutes late.
Hopefully that should be the end of the delays, with ZNE already in Melbourne, Wednesday's first B789 flight : QF21 has a 14:00 AEST departure, and then QF9 a 15:05 AEST departure.

 

[789nerd]

Friday's QF9 MEL-PER (B789 VH-ZND) is delayed 3 hours for a revised Melbourne departure of 18:05 AEST. The onward sector PER-LHR is further delayed, the 22:15 AWST departure being 3½ hours late, with the same delay holding for the revised Heathrow arrival at 08:35 BST Saturday. If this delay holds, it can be absorbed by the LHR layover, so the return QF10 should be on time.