Qantas doesn't care about priority boarding

[nerdag]

Weigh all bags at checkin

That would require check-in staff, many of whom were let go over the last two years.

 

[Quickstatus]

require check-in staff

Nope it would not.
Bag drops have a weighing function.
Only need to extend its smart functions to include size measurement. Package delivery companies such as UPS and the like already have these technologies

If you have 2 bags within the size and weight for carry on. Only 1 gets a carry on tag, the other a standard checked luggage tag.

This will make security check queues and aircraft boarding queues shorter

 

[henrus]

This will make security check queues and aircraft boarding queues shorter

No it'd just move the queues from security to a bag drop so people could get their bag 3D laser scanned and weighed.

 

[Quickstatus]

No

Maybe but IMO opinion the whole process will be better. Scanning and weighing takes seconds. The further the queue is pushed away the better

 

[RooFlyer]

Weigh all bags at checkin. Any bag below X kg and is tagged as carry on eligible.

Size compatibility can be done automatically with 3D laser measurement devices as part of the checkin

A “carry on eligible” tag entitles the passenger to go through security with that carry on. No tag no security entry.

1) only 1 tag per passenger
2) tier status may increase the kg or number

Because carryons are controlled, there should not be any need for PB.

And if you only have carry on, and OLCI? I walk from my car thru security to the QP and then to the gate.

Nope it would not.
Bag drops have a weighing function.
Only need to extend its smart functions to include size measurement. Package delivery companies such as UPS and the like already have these technologies

If you have 2 bags within the size and weight for carry on. Only 1 gets a carry on tag, the other a standard checked luggage tag.

This will make security check queues and aircraft boarding queues shorter

No bag drop for carry-on. Would need your laser thingy by the gate - how does it cope with suit/garment bags, which are allowed? All the rooting around would completely negate any PB, and I reckon all the airline schedules as well.

Better solution: Just police existing rules. OR, at the extreme, do what QR and I think LH do. A person going through the gate queue and tagging bags too large or otherwise non compliant for carry-on with one that compels check-bag. Word is law. Bag goes left, pax goes right, boarding continues (with a few sibs in the background).

 

[Quickstatus]

police existing rules

Yes but they currently can’t or won’t police existing rules. IMO Make the carryons explicit with a tag.

No tag no carry on.
No tag no security access

Outsized carryons - manual tag.

It will be a change to existing practices.
And I do understand. I’m a carryon type as well.

 

[Danger]

Apart from a brief delay, who really cares if you’re queuing for a few minutes extra?

I think the main issue is that you won’t be able to get your bags in the overhead. That is a perfectly rational sort of concern.

In my experience, the people most strident in this area, are those with two massive carry-ons, hoping to stuff both above and then sit, stoney-faced when the crew ask for help with luggage space.

It's about overhead space. It's about getting settled in your seat, getting into your movie or your book or maybe even getting some shut eye. To me, more than anything, it's about holding Qantas to account for a published and promoted tier benefit that's been around for years but which the airline has consistently failed to deliver.

 

[Quickstatus]

It's about overhead space

If everyone only has 1 or less carry on, the issue of overhead space magically goes away.

it's about holding Qantas to account

when?

 

[Danger]

If everyone only has 1 or less carry on, the issue of overhead space magically goes away.

I wouldn't think that would be the case at all. Assuming you could get over the complexities of changing the allowance, across the board and educating passengers, I expect most would just bring a larger carry-on or more weight. The end result? More delays at the gate (or more disputes on board, if gets that far).

when?

When is Qantas being held to account? In my case, letters and surveys and the one-man stand I took once upon a time when I refused to board until the third time I was paged after priority boarding wasn't offered.

 

[Quickstatus]

one-man stand I took once upon a time

Any system wide improvement?

When is Qantas being held to account

Yes

 

[Danger]

Any system wide improvement?

Yes, as this thread demonstrates, although I'm sure my stand had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Yes

In my case, letters and surveys and the one-man stand I took once upon a time when I refused to board until the third time I was paged after priority boarding wasn't offered.

 

[Quickstatus]

as this thread demonstrates

Au contraire, this thread demonstrates that the airline still does not do PB well (the most generous view is that PB is not a priority)

Your one man stand didn't make any difference to the airline.

 

[nerdag]

Nope it would not.
Bag drops have a weighing function.
Only need to extend its smart functions to include size measurement. Package delivery companies such as UPS and the like already have these technologies

That would require investment in hardware and passengers being 100% honest and not adding things to their bags once they have had them scanned.

The former isn't going to happen, and the latter cannot be relied upon.

 

[dairyfloss]

I am sure that the more layered the PB approach, the greater the delays. My uninformed guess is that often getting the flight away quickly in the eyes of gate staff trumps status recognition. I could be wrong...

Agreed - they couldn't just add layers with the way they do it now.

They'd need to introduce group numbering based on class of travel, status & seat location, like they do in the U.S. People seem to be less inclined to try and skip the queue when the agent calls "Group 1", and they have 'Group 4' on their BP, than if they say - "come forward if you are special". Don't have the right number, don't come forward yet.

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[OATEK]

Agreed - they couldn't just add layers with the way they do it now.

They'd need to introduce group numbering based on class of travel, status & seat location, like they do in the U.S. People seem to be less inclined to try and skip the queue when the agent calls "Group 1", and they have 'Group 4' on their BP, than if they say - "come forward if you are special". Don't have the right number, don't come forward yet.

Cheers,
Matt.

On a recent BA flight LHR-DUB they boarded in groups, but forgot to call group 4 (yes that was us). It was still mayhem in the aisle and Y pax tried (in vain) to leave bags in the J overhead lockers.

 

[dairyfloss]

On a recent BA flight LHR-DUB they boarded in groups, but forgot to call group 4 (yes that was us). It was still mayhem in the aisle and Y pax tried (in vain) to leave bags in the J overhead lockers.

Oh well - there goes the last good idea I had... let's just get the agents to open the doors and yell "GO! GO! GO!" at boarding time, then. Instead of priority boarding, QFF & OW elites could get special status helmets and body armour to cope better with the ensuing melee

 

[jase05]

Y pax tried (in vain) to leave bags in the J overhead lockers.

I have absolutely no qualms about removing “misplaced” bags from overhead lockers in J if there isn’t room for mine. You get the occasional comment or snarl but bad luck

 

[Quickstatus]

misplaced” bags

Easy enough with my plan above to tag J carryons with a different J specific tag. Then only J tagged can be placed in J overheads

Basically the whole PB palava is mostly about overhead carryon space

 

[henrus]

Easy enough with my plan above to tag J carryons with a different J specific tag. Then only J tagged can be placed in J overheads

What's to stop someone who flies J once keeping a J tag on their bag.

I've seen people recently with rather old qantas club and even ansett tags on their bags. Plus some very ratty JQ weight tags that have clearly never been taken off.

 

[Quickstatus]

What's to stop someone who flies J once keeping a J tag on their bag.

Like any printed bag tag they are One time Sector specific

Easy enough for gate agent to have handheld barcode scanners. The technology already exists.